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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

73 Pinto Runabout Project

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Cookieboystoys

next I installed the dash pad and the new speaker for the dash
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Time for updates... haven't done much these last 2 weeks since I got the car back. I have been cleaning up some of the interior parts but haven't really touched the car. Yesterday I finally started doing stuff...

first I pulled the heater control box and put on my door panels and hardware
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

CookieBoy,
      Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Crazyhorse, it is the look I'm going for  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

crazyhorse

I'm diggin it Cookieboy, especially the "Hotpants" kit & "c" stripe. It looks like the old Pinto ad.
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Cookieboystoys

Thanks Tigger, I ended up buying some generic sport mirrors (no remote) so they could be installed and painted. They look OK but not the same as Pinto sport mirrors.

I did get a passenger side sport mirror on Ebay but I just received it. It's a non-remote style, paint is rough but mirror is tight and good shape. I have yet to test fit on the car as I'm not sure the base/mount has the correct angle for a Pinto. I'll try it today now that I have my car back.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

Looks very sharp  :surprised:  What did you end up doing on the sport mirrors?
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Cookieboystoys

and more...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

more pics...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

It's Home!!!!

Finally get to post some pictures with my "little surprise" with a Great Big Thanks! to Pintony!

Tony, you made this possible and I can't thank you enough.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

Got the 5x7 speaker for the dash and here's the info on what I got and how I mounted it to the origional ford bracket.

click here ---> http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=39&topic=6870.0

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

douglasskemp

Hehe, yeah I should've realized that since I OWN a 73...but I didn't really get a chance to play with it before moving out to TN.
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

Cookieboystoys

Hey Douglass, on the 73 the shoulder belt comes down from the ceiling and clips to the lap belt. No return thru the side covers to worry about.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

douglasskemp

Also, with them in the side like the picture has, you would have to make sure it doesn't interfere with the shoulder harnesses.  On my 79, I used a pair of 4" round speakers in some pieces of mdf and just trimmed them the right size for the marker light access openings, with screw holes to mount them the same way as the stock covers.  This made it so I could still remove them to replace the bulbs if that problem arose.  Another side panel idea would be to get the grilles off of an early 80s escort wagon.  They will cover 5x7s I think.  I haven't tried it, but you might be able to use the side panel grilles off of a mid season fox Mustang.  I have 6x8s behind mine in my 87.
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

Cookieboystoys

Bigh4th, that was my first idea until I asked myself how I was gonna change a bulb if I need to... it is still floating in the back of my mind as a possible location. Just have to wait and cross that bridge when I come to it  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

bigh4th

My dad told me (i'm not old enough to remember) that they used to make instalation kits to put speakers (albeit small ones) in the marker light access ports in the back.  Doubt it would sound great, but maybe that could be an option for you?  Can always get used covers for them so you don't have to slice up your originals.

Other than that, theres not a whole lot of other places to hide speakers in Pintos that I can think of.   That dual voicecoil setup sounds pretty cool.  I saw that episode of Classic car on DIY as well.  the first thing that popped into my mind was doing the hidden headunit so I can keep the stock AM radio, and hooking it up with diodes so I can use either one.

Yeah, I'm weird.

-Harry

Cookieboystoys

Thanks Bigh4th, I've been having a difficult time figuring out the speaker arrangement. I want good sound but don't want to cut holes and want the speakers as invisible as possible. What I found for the front is perfect for me considering what I'm trying to do. If I really want to hide rear speakers the best I can come up with (like you suggested) was installing the speaker inside the rear quarters under the side panels (see picture below). However then the speakers will be covered by the interior side panels blocking my sound so it's not a perfect solution. I had thought to cut holes and use a speaker cover but I'm trying not to cut anything. Some other considerations have been under the front seats but I may just have to do speaker enclosures in the rear. I'll have to wait untill it's all back together and the stereo is installed to make any final decisions. I may get lucky and the speaker for the dash I ordered will sound good enough for this project and all other considerations will be dropped.

Also, here's the best pictures of the "Boss" stripe I have seen yet.

click here --->http://www.geocities.com/bosspintopage/

mine didn't turn out exactly like this (mine is solid with no pin stripe) and I didn't go with the rear stripe between the tail lights.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

bigh4th

Kudos on not going with the speakers in the doors.  I know it was a factory option, but they've always looked like a crappy afterthought to me.

Something I've always wondered about Is having a metal bracket welded in right behind the doors to house a speaker (you could even make a small enclosure to go behind it) and using one of the factory grilles in the interior pannel.  If done right, it could look stock.

Also, is there any chance you could get a full side-shot of the car so I can get a full look at the "boss" stripe?  I had a similar Idea for my pinto, but I could never fully picture it in my head.  Thanks.

-Harry

Cookieboystoys

Thanks 78Pinto... can't wait till it's back together and I can post pics of the finished product (body, engine and suspension work) as there is a bit of a surprise when it's all done. Interior will still need to be assembled but have till spring to get that done and I'm getting excited to do that... finally I'll get to do something to the car myself.  I've been watching your progress too and can't wait to see and hear what your car does when it's finished.

Tigger.. I know but my car wasn't cut for them and I didn't wanna do the cutting. I wish there was some way to mount speakers in the rear so they were not seen, I may even just go with just the front speaker if it sounds OK. Killer tunes or a boom-boom car isn't a requirement for me, just decent sound is all I want for this project... when I get to working on the 77 cruising wagon then I will do the killer tunes thing.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

TIGGER

Cookieboy, you know there are factory speaker grilles for the doors.  My 79 wagon has them.  I have a set for my 73.  All you need to do is notch the door panel and cut the speaker hole.  I believe my 79 has 6" in the front from the factory.   Just an idea to make it more comfortable and yet still somewhat original.....  Here is a picture from my car.
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Quote from: High_Horse on February 08, 2007, 03:27:49 AM
She???   78Pinto has an engine builder and you have a she doing your carpet and headliner? Well you better be getting pictures. The picture police. :police:

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Hey....i needed some experienced hands in my engine this time....no room for error!  He built (engine), maintains and is the crew chief for this car.  I think i can trust him! ;D  The KB hemi powered '48 Fiat runs 6.60's in the quarter.

Cookieboy, cars looking sweet dude!
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Cookieboystoys

no new pictures... just updated info.

Headliner is in and looks good, decided to wait and do the carpet later. I want to get the interior and dash done before it goes in and waiting for warmer weather will be an advantage during the install. Pinto is back at the body shop for the final assembly and to install the new parts for suspension and brakes.

At home I have been gathering and cleaning the parts needed to reassemble the interior and dash. Finally decided what to do about the speaker setup. I don't want to cut holes in anything for the front speaker and want to install one in the in the dash like factory. I got a stock mounting bracket out of the 1980 I stripped so now I just needed to find a speaker. I didn't want just any old speaker, new stereos are not setup for a single mono speaker, so I needed a solution. Found one... was watching the DIY network and they were restoring a 60's mustang and during the show I found my speaker. It's a dual voice coil speaker designed as a replacement for the factory setup. Speaker has hookup for right and left channel which will work much better than a standard mono speaker hooked up.

for a good description of the speaker I ordered go here ---> http://www.casmfg.com/DVC_Speakers.htm

Custom Autosound shows DVC3001 as the speaker for a Pinto in their catalog but when I called them (800-888-8637) they told me the DVC3001 is a 4x10 speaker and Pinto's use a 5x7 so I got the part # for a 5x7 (DVC3005). Custom Autosound doesn't sell direct to the public so they gave me the phone # and I ordered it from InDemand (888-668-6386) for about $52.00 shipped to me. I should receive the speaker mid-late next week and I sure hope w/the confusion over the part # and sizes it will be the right one. I'll post more info when I get the speaker.

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

crazyhorse

Lookin SAH-WEET Cookieboy! I like the "hockey stick" stripe.
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Cookieboystoys

First Peek ! the main painting is done, still lots of little stuff left to do for the reassembly but this gives an idea of the paint scheme. Can't wait until it's all finished and I can get it outside for some decent pictures. These inside pictures just don't do it justice... looks so much better in person.

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

joecool85

Man, you are going to have one nice looking pinto when you are all done with that.
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High_Horse

CookieBoy,
        If ya fix her up with some caffine cookies she will make short work of that project.

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Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

I was so lucky to finally find someone to do the headliner... thought I was gonna have to take the Pinto to the cities to find someone to do the headliner. No one does it around here and I knew I didn't wanna do it. Plus w/the goofs on the glass companies part it now gets installed as it should.. before the glass  ;D

I'll keep the pics comming...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

High_Horse

She???   78Pinto has an engine builder and you have a she doing your carpet and headliner? Well you better be getting pictures. The picture police. :police:

                                                                                                               High_Horse

                                                         
                                                                                                               
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

Cookieboystoys

Final Paint Has Started !! Yippy !!

and..... I got to meet the person that will be doing the headliner and install the front carpet. The glass company who broke my origional windshield removing it dropped the ball again. The glass they ordered to replace it has major issues (they had it for 3 weeks and they didn't notice... then had the gall to suggest installing it anyhow at a discount price - idiots!) and so another has been ordered. Body guy wanted the glass in to do the paint so the headliner wasn't gonna be installed "as it should" but now since the glass company doesn't have the glass... headliner goes in first and they can wait. I have given her the headliner, carpet and all the parts necessary so when paint is done she gets to do the headliner and front carpet. I'll do the rear carpet as it is attached to the rear seat and will not be installed for some time yet.

getting closer... still much to do but soon (1-2 weeks) it will be home again  ;D
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Cookieboystoys

back to the updates... doors back on and final sanding in preparation of paint... I will be stopping in today to drop off the windshield gask and check on progress.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!