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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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CHEAPRACER

To tight of fit for the camera. Plus, as I said, it's not pretty. I was getting frustrated installing the manifold and turbo and started banging things. I'll fix it, and the battery rought, later. FYI on the mini turbo, that will be on a 16hp v twin Briggs and Stratton over the winter.
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77turbopinto

Hey, that's like a turbo, just smaller!

I have my BOV plumbed the same way at the turbo inlet.

Can you grab a photo of the w/g actuator for inside the w/w? I know I will need to cut some there, just would like to see how it fits. Thanks

Bill
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CHEAPRACER

Maybe this little guy will fit with no problem.
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CHEAPRACER

It's not pretty, I just cut and banged and removed the blower motor until it fit. I'm still in a mockup stage and planed a rebuild and cleanup later...I'm having too much fun right now with it.
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77turbopinto

Quote from: CHEAPRACER on October 10, 2006, 10:57:24 PM
...Bill's right, unplug the sensor...

I only mentioned that there is lots of talk from people that do and get good results (I have not done it).  When I first got my Pinto running, my KS was pulling the timing so bad it would not rev beyond 3K, AND I had A code for the KS. I put in a new one and it has been fine. From my research, the more you advance the timing, the SLOWER the spool. For my car (86 T/C T5 and a 3.40 geared rear), I go through 1st and 2nd so fast it has no chance to spool anyway. AAMOF: I think it pulled harder with the 2.79's. Also keep in mind I have never raced my car.

Quote from: Gaslight on October 11, 2006, 07:45:13 AM
Rather than unplug the knock sensor which actually serves a very important purpose...

I do agree with Gas. It is critical that you don't have detonation, but from reading a BUNCH of posts, there seems to be a problem with the stock KS; it reads NON-DETONATION as detonation, and will pull the timing for the wrong reasons. If you decide to run without one, you NEED to listen. There are other things that will help prevent pinging too. Again, from my reseach it seems that Ford was ULTRA conservative with the set-up of these engines to keep from doing too much warranty work. That indicates to me that there is some room to play with things.

Putting any scoop on a hood does not mean that it will get air. Ford did a BUNCH of wind tunnel testing to see HOW MUCH air went through the stock T/C i/c and what the air temps would be. Unless you either get lucky, or do wind tunnel tests you might not get the air you think you will. If I wanted a scoop, I would install one like TurboToy's. I would put MONEY on that one working. A FMIC is a easier way to go to be sure.

Cheap: Can you post a pic of the IHI in your car? I would like to see the room, or lack there of, that the W.G. has to the frame. I plan to put one in my wife's car.

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Gaslight

Rather than unplug the knock sensor which actually serves a very important purpose.  Try adding a timing retard device that is boost referenced.  So that you can retard the timing based on psi in the manifold.  I run 18 on low and 22 psi on one of my cars with 2 knock sensors hooked up.  I just use a timing controller.

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QuoteBTW: Cheap, are you running a stock e-6?

Stock and unported, when I get around to replacing the IHI with my t-3, I'll open it up.

Quotewhats an e-6?

Exhaust manifold.

Quoteknock sensor is still connected,

Bill's right, unplug the sensor, not sure about the bumping the timing part, mine pings at 10 degrees with premium gas only. Works perfect with with a high octane race fuel 50/50 mixture. I'm going to pull up to a 76 station in a week & a half & filler up with some pump gas race fuel to experiment on a little more timing.
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stonepony

In answering all your questions, I have an 82 mustang scoop, with a 87 thunderbird intercooler, stock 87 VAM, computer and injectors, K&N cone filter, knock sensor is still connected, fuel pump is mounted low on frame rail below gas tank, haven't checked codes yet, and yes i built the car. whats an e-6?I will upload pics to show you as soon as I can. thanks again. Bruce

77turbopinto

If you have the I/C mounted in the stock location, do you have a scoop or ductwork to it, or just sitting under a hole in the hood? If so, I bet it is not getting enough air into it. If you are looking for power, a FMIC is a must.

What VAM/computer/injectors are you using?

The things most talked about to improve performance it to disconnect the KS and bump the base timing one or two * (spout out). Just listen for detonation.
Where is your pump mounted? If it is too high you might not be getting the all gas you need; they don't like to lift the fuel.

Yes, be sure you BCS is plugged in the harness.

How old is your O2S?

What do you have for an exhaust system?

Do you have any trouble codes?

Did you build the car?

Bill

BTW: Cheap, are you running a stock e-6?
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stonepony

Thanks for now guys i  appreaciate your help i built this car for my wife I run a 82 mustang 302 11.60 @ 112 she said it would be nice to run at least 14.00, s i will try your suggestions this week.

CHEAPRACER

I'm running the stock in-line 84 Turbocoupe pump which was the same as the f-250 460 engine pump. Your pump is probably just fine, and leave the timing set at 10 degrees.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

CHEAPRACER

7 more lbs of boost @ 10hp per lb... yup puts it at about the factory 190 or so rating.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

stonepony

Im using a Gillis valve and Sunoco 94 if i increase the Boost to 14
what should the timing be set at. And what fuel pumps are you guys using? o yeah iam using a stock t bird ic                                       thanks for your help.

Bruce

turbopinto72

Quote from: CHEAPRACER on October 09, 2006, 10:06:17 PM
I never run past 5500, my times fall off 2 tenths in the 1/8 if I go to 6k

Yep. and BTW the limit of a stock bottom end ( in my case) was 18 lbs at 6k rpm. Also, by my calculations your 16.00 run, considering your 78 weighs in at about 2500 lbs should have ran about 85 mph. That translates into about 120.63 HP.
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
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CHEAPRACER

I never run past 5500, my times fall off 2 tenths in the 1/8 if I go to 6k
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

CHEAPRACER

Are you also running an intercooler? Major gain there also.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

turbopinto72

It might not need to pull past 6K. The Hp/Tq curve is about at 5500 rpm. You may be loosing Hp by shifting at 6K. You might also be spinning the tires.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

CHEAPRACER

Put some premium in the tank and reset your boost to about 17 lbs, (just add power to your bypass switch if you don't have it hooked up) You should also have the computer wired or switched into premium mode.  It will come alive! I run the 10 lb mode when running regular and commuting to work...BORING! It almost feels like the turbo is worthless.
My IHI is running at 18lbs, which according to fellow board freaks, is about maximum before inefficiency or explosion.
Cheapracer is my personality but you can call me Jim '74 Pinto, stock 2.3 turbo, LA3, T-5, 8" 3:55 posi, Former (hot) cars: '71 383 Cuda, 67 440 Cuda, '73 340 Dart, '72 396 Vega, '72 327 El Camino, '84 SVO, '88 LX 5.0

stonepony

Any body got any ideas why i can't get any better than 16.00@ 82 mph. heres what i  have  78 pinto 2.3 turbo [87 T bird] c4 3000 stall spooled 8" and 3.55 rear  14" tires  i shift at about 6000 rpm it seems like it doesn't want to pull any more past 6000. iam using a 90 F150 inline stock fuel pump Not enough fuel? timing set @ 10 and Boost @ 10   any input would  be great
thanks Bruce