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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

EARLY Mustang (67-68) Rearend in a pinto - 8inch

Started by pintoguy76, August 08, 2006, 10:53:05 PM

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osiyo59

 :sorry: Bill, I must apollogize. The 9" I have is not a bolt in. It is about a half inch wider at the pads than the pinto. The biggest issue I found was not the width but the actual mounting pads. If I dont use the spring dampeners and bolt the housing directly to the leafs, I could get away with bolting it in. But this would push the leafs out a quarter inch on each side not to mention it would raise the back end of the car an inch. I want to drop it, not raise it. What I cmup with was to take some 1" lowering blocks and mill them out to fit over the dampeners. Simmilar to wht Bill did with his mounting pads. Next I have to modify the dampener brackes to accept the wider U-bolts required for the larger diameter axel tubes. I found a 79 Lincoln Mark V at a local wrecker with rear discs. They are the same calipers and brackets found on a Lincoln Versallis but the bolt pattern is larger. I got the Versallis rear roters and found tht the axle flanges from the '59 9" were too big to fit into the roters. I put the axles on a lathe and turned down the flanges to fit and also replaced the studs with longer ones to accomodate for the thicker roter vs. drum. The caliper bracket that bolts to the housingand holds the axle in place was positiond for a coil over car. When I bolted it in place the caliper was right up against the leafs. this would surley not work, back to the shop to drill a new mounting position on the bracket. OK, this all said and done, it's time to press on the bearings with the redrilled brackets in place. BANG! another issue. The certer hole that the axle goes through is to small for the 59 axles at the flange. Easy fix, make hole bigger! Fixed! Ok, Now I have a 9" with rear disc and a 5 lug bolt circle. Not a lot of cash output but plenty of aggrivation. Any one that wants this set up for there Pinto, Contact me and I can give details. I may Post a thread in the comming weeks with all the photos and details of what was done. Once again Bill, You were Right and I apologise for opening my mouth without trying to complete the whole thing first. Take care.....Rob
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osiyo59

As far as having a rear end narrowed you can plan on spending about $750 or more. Housing ends run about 70 to 100. hen to have the housing done is about 250 for labor. Next comes axles at about 350 or more for the pair. It can add up quickly. I HAVE found a 9"  that is a direct bolt in for my wagon. I ahve a 1959 Ranchero and the 59's had the narrowist 9" ford made. I picked one up from a local salvage yard and it will bolt right in. Pad to Pad is same as the Pinto. They're out there they just take a little effort to find. I have read somewhere that late model Explorer rear disc are almost a direct bolt on to the 9" although I still have not confirmed this rumor. Will let you know when I do....Rob
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1973 Pinto Squire 2.0EFI/Turbo

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cromcru

and to think i have 3 of those 8 inch rear ends to play with. all four lug. one has 3.55 gear. one with 3.40 gears and the last with 3.00 gears.was thinking on taking my spare axles down and have new ones made with the 5 lug pattern
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77turbopinto

Define "better".

There are NO 9" rears that will even come close to bolting into a Pinto, so if you can't modify it yourself you are looking at paying to have one done, or paying for one that has been done. There might be more out there for them, but it seems the price is "out there" too.

Rear discs will need fab.ing no matter what rear you use; on either the rear or the brakes.

The 8" rear is fairly big for a Pinto. Not too much room left over under there in a stock car with the 8" installed.

The 8" is a very durable unit, and they do very well in the lightest car Ford ever put one in.

Trac-loc's are avilable new for about 500 bucks by themselves, and starting at about 700 installed with gears in a meatball.

I never had one narrowed.

Bill
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pintoguy76

A 9 inch would be better and thats what id like to have since there are more options for gears, positracs, brakes (i want rear disc), etc but i am afraid of the cost. LOL. Ill have to have one narrowed, which sounds expensive, and no one around here that i know of narrows axles (im in a city of 200,000). For those of you that have had an axle narrowed, what did it cost?
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77turbopinto

The 67 and 68 rears are different in a few ways, but are basicly the same dimentions. The 67 ones take different bearings (I think), but all 8" rears take the same 'meatball'. The easy way to tell the difference between these two years is that the 67 will have a lube plug on the rear of the housing.

I installed one in my car when I was going to 5 lug.

They are about 3" wider overall, but will fit into a Pinto with minor work. The outside of the perches are the same distance apart as Pinto ones, but they are narrower and have a different on-center. The Mustang and Maverick 8" rears have a small hole to locate the springs, but I was able to open the perches to use the stock Pinto rubber blocks. Using this rear will limit the size rims you can use. See the link for more details.

From the side the car looked fine, but looked odd when viewed from the rear. I switched to a Maverick rear.

The 67 and later 8" rears are much more common because of their width. Many Mustang owners used the rears from the earlier cars to help install wider tires.

From the prices that I have seen, 100 bucks is top dollar for that rear DEPENDING on the gears. Most likely it has 2.79's in it. If it has 2.79's, bad brake parts, and lots of rust you might want to make a lower offer.

I used my stock Pinto e-brake cable and it works, but could be better.

IMHO: If it has good gears (like 3.0 or better), and they are in good shape, you MIGHT want to get it for the meatball and look for a direct bolt to a Pinto housing assy.

Bill

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php?topic=953.0

This is the Maverick rear, but i had the 4 lug Pinto axle in it when the photo was taken:
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TIGGER

If it is an 8 inch then it will be from a v8 car which means 5-lug.  The 6cyl cars had 4-lugs but none came with an 8 inch.  I am not sure but I think the 67-68 mustangs have the spring perches spaced differently than the Pinto / Mustang II. 
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pintoguy76

In a local classifieds paper, there is a guy selling a 67-68 mustang 8inch rear end for $100. The 74 wagon i am buying has a 6 and 3/4 rearend and that is not gonna work for me, as i plan on installing a 2.3 Turbo. What will i have to do to make it work? Will it need to be narrowed? is it 4 or 5 lug? If its 4 lug will my pinto wheels work? Is that an oddball rear, as it going to take dfferent bearings or something than most?
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E