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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Wrecked my pinto tonite....

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pintoguy76

Panhandle Sam - I've left a few posts in your post about parting put 30 pintos... never heard anything back yet that i saw. I too have had several close call and an accident before this one due to stupid drivers. In 2004 on new years eve i was hit by a SOBER woman in borad day light who claims she could not see me, in my big old 1978 Chevy suburban. She plowed right into my drivers front corner and totaled the truck. I'll see what happens with this case, i might end up needing parts from you. I am good at working on the mechanics of cars, but ive never done body work before. I am going to school this fall tho, for auto collision repair and welding technology. If nothing more, i beleive me and the class can fix this car, if i bring in the parts. Thanks for the post! I'll keep you posted.
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skrach

i dont think im willing to give mine up.. unless the price is right lol
1971 Ford Pinto Sedan. Original CA Car. Root Beer Brown. but wont be that color for long. Tired of the poop brown reputation. haha

Panhandle Sam

Quote from: pinto_351 on April 29, 2006, 11:24:49 PM
does anyone on the site have a hatch like the one on the green car.  I need a small window hatch for my 79

"Someone" just might have about TEN of those hatches, but hey...don't hi-jack this mans thread. :cheesy_p:
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pinto_351

does anyone on the site have a hatch like the one on the green car.  I need a small window hatch for my 79

Panhandle Sam

That's ashame man...I feel for you. I lived in that area in 99-2000, many close calls there w /idiot drivers myself. Back then I drove a Datsun B-210. Springfield, Mo is one of THE worst places I ever seen for idiot drivers. I always got the message that they just don't care. Your pics are evidence enough. :(

I'm not all that far from you,(Amarillo,Texas) so if nothing else works out call me sometime & I'll see what I can do for you. It shouldn't cost a grand to fix that if you are even 1/2 way handy at working on cars. ;)

Still a dam shame though because the Pinto is an endangered species these days. I agree w/ the guy that said "rip his arm off & beat him w/ it!"  :lol: ;D

Also...DO NOT accept the first offer from ANY insurance company. I went thru this in an accident that wasnt my fault in Colorado w/my LUV pickup.They'll ay "well, it's an old vehicle and there's not much of a value to it to begin with"........Make them dig an come to you a 2nd time, the waiting is well worth it. ;D
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Pintony

Hello Pintoguy76,
I have a NEW pass side rear 1/4 if you are interested?
Where are you located Maybe I can drop off on my way to carlisle???
From Pintony

Scott Hamilton

The damage looks grimm,... what a smack!

I had a similar hit on my 72 Runabout about 4 years ago, I had collectors car insurance & they picked up the tab to put her back together. The hard part was finding a shop to do the work, most would turn up their nose when I told them it was a Pinto.
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pintoman2009

thats sucks i would of put the pedale to the medle and kicked the guys a$$ if that was me
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pintoman

I hate to see Pinto's hurt like that.Mine was not hurt that bad.They were going to total the Rallye,but i would not budge.I was able to keep my title and they gave me a check for a $1037.It is just about done.It will be ready for Carlisle.
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skrach

everything but the trunk section and the hatch is up for grabs. and to help you out i will give you what ever you can use.
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skrach

1971 Ford Pinto Sedan. Original CA Car. Root Beer Brown. but wont be that color for long. Tired of the poop brown reputation. haha

skrach

if you are thinking of fixing the car i have a 1/4 panel theat i will give to you for free. all you will have to do is pay shipping im in northern california. let me know if you are interested. cause i would hate to see one of the cars go to the crusher..
1971 Ford Pinto Sedan. Original CA Car. Root Beer Brown. but wont be that color for long. Tired of the poop brown reputation. haha

pintoguy76

1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

pintoguy76

If the guy has insurance im not going to leave them alone until they keep my title clear and pay me a pretty good sum of $$$. It'll be hard to find a car in comparable condition, and im not going to take a loss, so it'll probably cost atleas 1,000 maybe more to find a replacement car. Probably atleast that to fix this one, if i have a shop do it. I'm going to school this fall for auto collision repair, so i can probably store the car (im still driving it right now actually) until i get in school and then myself and the class can fix it  for the cost of parts. I'll lookup pintoman and see what hes got to say. Thank for the replies guys. Oh i have some pictures now too. ill post them.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

r4pinto

You may want to chat with Harley (pintoman). Dunno if you read about his 1980 Rally getting hit in the back & the insurance co. wanted to total it out, but he fought it & ended up able to keep the title without having it listed as salvage or rebuilt.
Matt Manter
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77turbopinto

Glad you are ok.

Don't let the insurance company (his or yours) rip you off. They will most likely total the car and offer you 200 or 300 bucks due to the "book value". If you make a mature "fuss", you might get much more, but you might have to do some reasearch to find a credable source for collecter car values. If you have a hard time let me know, I MIGHT be able to help.

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madmax96101

that is horrible. when they find him they should let you rip his arm off and beat him with it for running. i don't really mean it. sorry about that.

phils toys

sorry to here about your mis fourtune.
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pintoguy76

I'll get the guy and sue him if he doesnt have insurance. Ive got his license plate number, which traced back to a 1997 Chevy.....which is a perfect match to the truck that hit me. It was a Purple Chevy S10 pickup, about a 1997 model, too. So im sure the police will find him. He'll pay for hitting my baby and then running! Him or his insurane company is going to fix my car, or buy me another one in just as good of shape and let me keep my salvage to fix later on, otherwise this is going to go to court and get ugly.. I think a new Quarter panel and the panel that the tail lights go in, and it will be good as new again. Somehow, which i cant explain, he hit the car in the corner and never even put a scratch on the bumper.... i dont see how that happened because his truck didnt sit up that high. Anyways im gonna get some pictures, and talk to my insurance company, and get a copy of the police report and keep on their asses about finding this guy. The address listed on this guys truck is in another county, so its going to take a little longer to process but i think im gonna get this guy pretty good. Ill post pictures as soon as i get them.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

krazi

that stinks! a real pain in the tail! no pun intended. if my dad hadn't destroyed my '79, I'd say come and get the tail panel. I'm sure you can find crash parts somewhere.

the good thing is that you weren't injured!

krazi
yeah, I'm Krazi!

sagesunrise

That SUCKS, Pintoguy!!! I am sure you will find all of the parts you need for repair from your fellow pinto gang. Sorry to hear about the wreck. Get that jerk!!!!
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

pintoguy76

Today as i was coming home from dinner, i was yielding to traffic as i was waiting to make a right turn. This guy in an S10 beside me rams me in the butt and then drives off. I got his license plate number and filed a police report. My car (76 sedan) is still drivable but the right turn signal is out. It is not going to be cheap to replace this car, or fix it, when the find this mother f**ker. I'll let you know when i find out more info.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E