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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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warhead2

Rob for most part the front floorpans were only part that was really rusty the underside of the car is good along with frame. But rust in normal spots like lower panels in different spots and bottomms of doors. This has always been an Oklahoma car so no big problem with salts on the road.

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rob289c

Reeves1: Not sure what you mean by lower (cable) steering shaft.  I attached pics of my steering shaft but I don't knw what you mean by the cable.  Wiring harness? 
rob289c

Reeves1

Quote from: rob289c on January 16, 2023, 07:44:13 PM
Mine was (I guess still is) a 1980.  I held on to parts I have used, will use, and might use on my current project.  I gave a lot away, and then gave what was left of the body to a local guy that had a Pinto.  What parts do you need?

Lower (cable) steering shaft

rob289c

The frame rail looks pretty solid.  Good thing.  I'm looking forward to Spring so I can get back on my project...
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warhead2

Did some work to passenger floor. Cut out some rust. Only worked on it for a little bit tonight. No grinder injuries lol but wore thicker gloves just incase.
Cardboard under car just for spark defelting
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rob289c

Mine was (I guess still is) a 1980.  I held on to parts I have used, will use, and might use on my current project.  I gave a lot away, and then gave what was left of the body to a local guy that had a Pinto.  What parts do you need?
rob289c

Reeves1

Quote from: rob289c on January 07, 2023, 05:52:45 PM
Rusty floor work...nasty job!  I had to do the passenger side front floor pan in my Mustang.  Pinto was too far gone to salvage.  Using what I could for my Mustang/Pinto Roadster Project.  Lots of fab and welding ahead for you...

What year Pinto ? I need some parts... 71-72

rob289c

Ouch!  I know what you mean about the physical pain not what one would think.  Several years ago I detached my right distal bicep tendon.  It felt like a rubberband snapped on my arm...not much pain but freaked me out when my bicep was up near my shoulder!  Got it fixed and is as good as new.
rob289c

Wittsend

No one gets out without paying "Skin Dues." I was building a Tiny House with my daughter . I was using a push stick on the tablesaw, but I had my index finger extended too far. I was also holding the push stick too high. When it caught the blade the stick slammed my finger down into it. Honestly the physical pain was 5 on a scale of 10. The financial pain was an 11 on a scale of 10. 45 minutes in the ER for 4 stiches and the bill was $5,600! We went back and fourth with the hospital but it still cost $2,200. The young Dr. suggested I could return to the hospital to get the stiches removed. Not after that bill. I took them out myself.


warhead2

I did a little cutting of the rust, then cut down the new floorpan. I need to trim it a little more but so far so good. Also nicked my thumb with the grinder when I turned it off.

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Wittsend

My passenger side was bad too. Likely because water leaks in the car and puddles there due to road camber. I took a sheet of steel and fashioned it to fit in the area cut out. I put a few dimples in it using a larger/smaller socket on each side, guestimating they were centered and hitting the upper socket with a 5 pound hammer. Worked Ok, but not the best. Stopped when I missed the hit and tweaked my index finger. Overall the repair works and has held for years. I just hate (MIG) welding thin metal to somewhat suspect old metal. There is a fine line between cold welds and holes blown in the metal. 20 years of doing it and I still dread the process.










warhead2

The passenger is worse. I have bought floorpans from Joe Bayura. They are not to bad of a reproduction. I still have a long way to go but trying to stay motivated. But as long as I keep doing something to the car its one less thing

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firepinto

My floors are about as bad.  I have some ebay reproduction floor pans still in the box that I have to get to soon.
'79 Pinto auto hatch back with an '80 2.3L and 4 speed transplant.  A 2.3 Turbo and T5 are waiting for the next transplant.

Plans changed, going V8 with TKX!

rob289c

Rusty floor work...nasty job!  I had to do the passenger side front floor pan in my Mustang.  Pinto was too far gone to salvage.  Using what I could for my Mustang/Pinto Roadster Project.  Lots of fab and welding ahead for you...
rob289c

warhead2

Looks good on the strut arm.
Small update did so rust removal on drivers side floor pan. Did have a whole lot of time so will finish it another day. One picture is the the frame rail and all the stuff field mice/ rats stuffed in there over the yrs. Thats all for now Happy new year everyone.

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dga57

Quote from: rob289c on December 11, 2022, 06:37:06 AM
That will be done in the Spring.  I am just test fitting and finger-tightening parts at this point.

Experimentation still counts as progress in my book!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Yesterday I bolted my OEM and Speedway strut rods together, put them in the vice, heated, then bent to the proper angle.  I test fit the Speedway rods to see how they line up with the lower control arms, frame, and sway bar links and everything appears to be fine.  Just letting you know in case you want to try it on yours.  I don't think you will be able to bend the Speedway rod without applying heat first. Until I get my coil springs to the right height and get weight on them, I'm not going to final assemble and torque anything. That will be done in the Spring.  I am just test fitting and finger-tightening parts at this point.
rob289c

rob289c

Reeves1: I have decided there is too much corrosion in the bushing area of my OEM strut rods so I am going to use the Speedway rods after bending to the correct angle and transferring the sway bar end like mounts to the Speedway rods.

Warhead2: I attached a pic of my rods OEM vs Speedway that shows the different angle between the two.
rob289c

Reeves1

Heat them like that will weaken the metal.

I'll buy them if you'll ship to Alberta ! I was going to buy some anyway....PM me if you want ?

rob289c

I have an oxy-acetylene torch that would heat them cherry-red in seconds and they would easily bend.  By this time tomorrow I should have my old strut rods back.  I contacted the guy I gave the remnants of my Pinto to and he said I can have them back.  I will be stopping by his brothers farm where my old Pinto is and grab the parts I need.  The lower control arms, including the strut rods are in the hatch area so I will throw them in the back of the pickup and disassemble when I get them home.  Hopefully they are where I left them.  I will see if Speedway will take back the ones I bought.  Store credit will be fine as I will be buying more parts as I continue on my project.
rob289c

Reeves1

Take the new ones to a machine shop & have them bent to the right angle ?

warhead2

Rob i still have my factory one. Everything is the same except the angle. The bushing end was why I was changing mine out. Its still solid but do you think it had rusted to much to be usable?

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rob289c

I have some comments on the strut rod issue.  It looks like you have one factory rod and one that you bought at Speedway.  I didn't think I needed my old strut rods and gave them away but unfortunately I found that the kit I bought from Speedway that didn't require strut rods, when I attempted to install I found out that the Speedway kit doesn't work with a stock Pinto Crossmember.  I had to go another route with different lower control arms.  I am finding that other parts that Speedway lists for Pinto and Mustang II only work with the Speedway or Heidt's crossmembers, not the factory stock crossmember.  That is true for the strut rods that you and I purchased.  The speedway arm isn't designed to work with the factory frame.  The Speedway frame has a different mounting bracket and doesn't go through the frame like the factory configuration.  I think if I put mine in the vice and heat to cherry red, I will be able to bend it slightly to make it line up with the factory frame mount.  The good news is that the mounting holes in the strut rod line up with the holes in the Speedway lower control arm...you just cant bolt it on because the angle is wrong to get it to line up with the frame mount.  Other than the angle being different, do you see any other differences from the factory rod?  Is the overall length the same?  Are the Speedway bushings the same as the factory bushings?  Mine old ones are long gone. 

I looked back and saw that I had offered my old strut rods to you in an earlier post before I gave them away to someone else.  I wish I had kept them!  I also wish I had researched and asked more questions about the Speedway parts.  I assumed that they could be used with a factory crossmember but they don't.  I asked the sales rep if the kit would...he assured me it would and even passed me to a tech support specialist and I told him what I had and he too assured me it would all work together just fine.  I know better now.  I thought if anything on my project would be a no-brain, bolt-together endeavor, it would be bolting the front suspension together.   It isn't...
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warhead2

Rob thanks. I plan on doing a few mods to the car more electronic side. The strut rod on the passenger side I still haven't messed with it yet. I plan to tweak it with a long cheater bar in very near future. I still don't have a tank for my welder, but I'm working on that next wk.
Like I said I welcome any questions it keeps me motivated.

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rob289c

This quite a project you have going and I don't know how I have missed your posts.  Had I noticed it sooner I would have compared notes with you with the project I have going on.  Yours looks to be a straight resto, while mine is re-using as much as I could from my rotted out Pinto to make an oddball car.  I will follow this as you progress.

One question:  what did you have to do to get your strut rod and lower control arm holes to line up?  I also bought the Speedway arms and they too seem to be off by a little bit.  I think I can tweak them but wondering what you ended up doing.  Mine came with the press in studs too but I am going to use Grade 8 bolts instead as I am going to be bolting the sway bar mount on top of the strut rods and the studs won't be long enough to accommodate bot the rod and mount.
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warhead2

Small update working some more on underside cleaning, priming, n undercoating around the transmission tunnel. Also the product im using. It works fairly well but make sure that you wear gloves and keep a rag or paper towel close to wipe of the nozzle,  tend to build up by it. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

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warhead2

Worked on striping down the engine. Took the valve cover off and it looks good for sitting for 30 plus yrs.

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warhead2

Got the engine stand put together and got the engine on it finally. Was a little weird because holes are not exactly even on the back of the motor. I just took the adapter plate off the stand and was able to find the right position. Ran out of time to do anything else. But will go back to it in the next day or two.

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warhead2

Quote from: Dtmix on July 05, 2022, 07:15:22 PM
Slowly but surely! You are making progress! I cannot wait to see the final product!

Keep up the great work! Keep up with your ongoing commentary!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Thanks will do. Yes it is a slow process 6yrs so far since I moved the car and started working on it.

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Dtmix

Slowly but surely! You are making progress! I cannot wait to see the final product!😀

Keep up the great work! Keep up with your ongoing commentary!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Happy Motoring!
Dan