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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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STpinto

Thanks Pintony. No problem, he is anonymous here to me, he would have a hard time making me angry. He doesn't mean anything to me, but I take exception to  people using amatuer pop psychology in this forum. I always try to listen to everyone's ideas, but a hit-n-run comment is not a good way to move a discussion forward in a positive way.

Don't worry, I mean no harm-I go out of my way to help strangers, old people, kids, try to keep it light and positive, so people can devote their energy and attention to life's more pressing problems.



Keep on Keepin on

Pintony

Hello ST,
I have met DTD and I'm sure he did not intend to make you mad.
Just a little bit of ribbing to your coments.
NOW "ME" I make everybody mad. ;D
You guys be cool or I'll start the Popcorn throwing! 8)
From Pintony

STpinto

You need to expand on your comment- why would you assume I have a hard time making friends? I don't have any trouble- In the future, when making comments, please include any thoughts that  prompt you  to make the comment. That would help people to identify exactly what agenda you wish to convey. If you have a point to make about what I posted, please state it, and I will discuss it. Maybe we have no common ground, maybe so. Cheers-
Keep on Keepin on

dirt track demon

Quote from: ST on October 02, 2005, 02:21:15 PM
     It sounds like the pride you feel in your car is not appreciated by everyone you meet. I have had the same feelings, but man, you got to understand people go to car shows to see the best of a brand, not to see what you've done so far. I think this experience should encourage you to see how much more you can get done before you "show" it. Come on, would YOU walk across the street to see something that looks like a project? What if you could see a bunch of huge rust holes, some badly repaired panels, mis-matched paint? There are millions of pretty sorry project cars running around, but only the exceptionally nice ones should be in shows, unless its a  "street" type event, where half the cars look like yours.  Even if you have put in a lot of time and money in your car, and have an inspired vison of what it could be, if it isn't up to at least "neat street", don't be offended if the average joe sees it for what it is, not what you feel.
     Just because you like Pintos, as we all do, don't expect people to suspend their opinions of what is "show".
     Good luck, try harder to make your car really nice, there are a lot fewer of these old cars to try to exemplify, thanks to the car crushers and "racers" who consume them by the dozen, just to destroy them.
     I would love to see "before " and "after" pictures of your car, it helps us all to keep pluggin' when we see it happen to other people. Thanks---


ST, you arent very good at making friends are you? :o ??? :-\
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Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

osiyo59

Don't give up the fight to be an individual and think all by your self. All these people who drive camaros and Chevy's and even alot of mustang owners, would have their head explode if they attempted an original thought! My dad had a pinto that he bought new in 73 and I was in 3rd grade. I loved that car and when he sold it Iwas in high school. I wish I had had the fore sight to buy it from him. I have been looking for a 72 to 74 wagon for years now and can't seem to find one. they are either to beat up or to expensive for what they are. My next door neighbor is a San Jose Police officer and he told me that if I bought a Pinto he would have it towed! My room mate is an old school simpleton and gave me s*@t about wanting a Pinto. I gave in and bought a Ford Ranger with a blown 2.3 and not a week later I found a pristine 73 wagon for 900.00. I was PISSED! I rebuilt the Ranger motor and it purrs now. So I figured I would take up the hunt for a wagon again to drop the ranger motor in. I'll show them! Be proud of what you own! and keep taking them to every show that you can. Let people know that you are proud to own a Pinto. Thanks for letting me Go off on that, It felt good! Anyone have a good wagon they want to sell that is in need of a drive line ?....Rob < robertkemberling@yahoo.com.au >
1966 Mercury M100 Custom Cab 5.8L EFI/AOD
1973 Pinto Wagon Daily driver (For Sale in Classifieds)
1973 Pinto Squire 2.0EFI/Turbo

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DreamBean

Thanks for the moral support guys. I have another show coming up the 22nd. It is the same show I won first place in unfinished last year. Growing up in the south my dad always told me that there are 3 things that you don't mess with, Another mans wife,A junk yard dog, or some bodys car. I have so many people that walk up to the car laughing But walking away scratching three heads. I have had people like doctors lawyers and even a fella that ran for mayor stand and talk about the car for hours. I have had people that I never met walk up and shake my hand and tell me to keep up the good work. I TOO go out of my way to see those cars that no one else wants to see.To tell you how dedicated I am to my pinto, I was given (for my birthday by my little brother)A 1980 Z/28 camaro, T-Tops, Cruise ya know the works. TOTAL numbers matching car. I leave hid in the weeds at my dads. Nothing wrong with it. I see that almost every one has one. But not every one has a pinto. That is why I am so thankful for this site and the friends that I have made here.GOD BLESS OUR PINTOS AND GOD BLESS YOU!
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71hotrodpinto

Hey bipper,
were you there last friday?? I saw a stock 71 , i think it was orange.
Anyways i was shocked i saw a pinto there. It was rolling out just as we got there.
yah getting there from OC must be a real nightmare on any night let alone a friday. well Hope we can all hang out for a bit  next time i go there. It will still be a while before the cars even rolling under its own power let alone for a cruise with the wife and my 2 year old baby girl.
But that would be Cool all parking in a row !! I have to get it painted before ill actually "show" it though.
Take it easy,Robert

Bipper

Hey Robert, I've been to the Toluca Lake Bob's once with the stock 71.  It's quite a chore to get from Orange County to Burbank on a Friday afternoon otherwise I'd go more.  If you haven't been before it's a pretty eclectic assortment of vehicles that show up.  There are a couple of locals that go a lot that are building pinto's.  You will probably see them.  Also the later you stay the more spectaters without cars show up.  These are the people that seem to appreciate seeing a  pinto.  Car people are fairly indifferent unless you're at an all Ford show.  Have fun!

Bob
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72 Pangra
73 Runabout, 2L turbo propane

71hotrodpinto

Hey there, just reading and really getting appalled at the prejudice of some people these days. For crying out loud these are CARS. Why cant people just appreciate someones hard effort at finishing a car or even in the process of finishing. is it just because there so LAME themselves that they cant build one? or is it because they were able to run up a $25000 credit line finishing there car so they can feel superior?? Or is it somewhere in the middle , just being a plain Jerk.

If you read HOTROD ,car craft ,Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords ,etc,  and i do,  all you hear is "dare to be different". So i figured that the car crafting community had GROWN UP a bit. WELL I GUESS NOT! ::)

I'm planning on taking my ride ,rumbling with dual 40 series flowmasters, to "cruise night" over at BOBS BIG BOY in Toluca Lake Calif on Friday night. Paint finished or not. Now granted I'm not just going to drive up as a nobody and expect them to "part the red sea" for a parking spot,well see,but I sure as heck dont expect to be insulted.
  Ive always been a Ford owner and always will be, but I ALWAYS appreciate someones hard work and money spent on making there ride the way they want it regardless of make or model.

I hope we can all be more ADULT about the mindless idiotic rantings of children with licenses when they dis' our cars. Its the only way to show them in the long run who's more the MAN.
Sorry for the rant ;D
Robert

pintoman

Hey Dream Bean.I took the Rallye to a local show about four years ago and was told to move my car out of the show area.The Rallye looked better than some of the Camaros and Mustangs.I drive this car every day.Took it to P/F and to the all ford show at Carlisle this year.Took Peoples choice at P/F and took second in class at Carlisle.I rarely get any bad comments about the car,mostly get good ones.I no longer attend the shows put on by this local car club.Any club that is so near sighted that they can't tell a good car from another than they don;t need my money .
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79bobcatwagon

I have a 1979 bobcat wagon with 45,000 actul miles 2.3L 4cyl with a bad timing belt and an OK body!!  Every summer we have car shows at differn't Burger Kings in the area.  The last show of the season I was planning on going by myself but I just happened to run into another guy with a 1980 pinto wagon worst shape than mine.  We got the cars clean and we went to the show parked right next to eith other.  I told him we wont be the best looking cars there but we wont be the worst looking cars but they will look at us. We had alot of people look at both cars because we were the only pintos there/basicly the only ones in town..

rkk

Car shows can be fun but, but from my experience it is all in who you know as they say.  Most of these are run by the buddy buddy system.
I have gone to some National car shows with my AMX and they are pretty up and up.
But these local shows leave a lot to be desired.  I entered my Pinto in one about a month ago and it got 3rd.
The cars that won first and second were very amaturely done with bad paint bondo wrinkles and silcone ozzzong out joints.  My car is not perfect but it beat the heck out of their's.  When I ask why because it was so obivious.  They told me a Pinto is not as desirable as a Camoro or Pontiac.  I just blew it off and if I go to another local show I am going to take it for what they are and enjoy all the good comments I get from the people that walk by.  That's the best part anyway!
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1969 AMC AMX not a pinto, but I like it, fast for not being a FORD (It's different just like a PINTO)

propinto1

Dont feel bad, we took or 77 runabout to the local dragstrip fro test and tune night.  As we were in staging a girl points at our Pinto and smirks "honey you should have no trouble with that" as she tells her boyfriend as he pulls his 04 GT next to me in staging.  Well as Gomer Pyle would say " Surprise surprise surprise" he got his butt spanked too the tune of three seconds LOL.  Never judge a little car by its little looks LOL.

crazyhorse

Dreambean, I've been there myself, with my 'StangII it was red over primer, but NOBODY ever walked past the engine bay without the famous words either what the **** or how the **** after seeing one of the 1st 5.0 FI swaps in the area. My Stang was no beauty queen, but she wasn't some trailer queen either!
How to tell when a redneck's time is up: He combines these two sentences... Hey man, hold my beer. Hey y'all watch this!
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Pintony

Hello Group,
Just back from a W/E show.
I have lots to tell but I will save that for later in another post.
Hey dream bean,
I had a lady say "Looks like I took it out of a dumpster and stuck 100.00 in it to bring it to the show"
She was talking about my Lime Green 72.
You have seen it in P.F. at the 1st anual Pinto meet.
WOW I guess some people just do not understand what a car show is all about!
From Pintony

skrach

i think that it would show the car anyways and even more. cause i have always been a nonconformest. i love to the the exact opposit of what everyone else is doing. thats why i have a pinto. the main reason i kept mine through out my teenage years. cause no one else wants one. well thats not exactly true but for the majority not too many people want one. but i love my car. not to sound sick but it has a name. inside my trunk it has the name "Kelly" from the inspector so its name is kelly. she is beuty resting as i slowly buy parts i need. but mine is a project. and i think its good to bring projects cause it shows progress. and plus if someone see's it before it is doen and then after it is doen they will respect the work you put into it. i think you should feel good about his responce.  becuase his ignorance should only make you push to finish your car as well as cherish it that much more. when you seen one 57 chevy you've seen them all, and when you've seen one mustang you've seen them all. and so on. when do you see a pinto? very rarely keep up the good work and i hope my responce makes you feel better about your experience :)
1971 Ford Pinto Sedan. Original CA Car. Root Beer Brown. but wont be that color for long. Tired of the poop brown reputation. haha

STpinto

     It sounds like the pride you feel in your car is not appreciated by everyone you meet. I have had the same feelings, but man, you got to understand people go to car shows to see the best of a brand, not to see what you've done so far. I think this experience should encourage you to see how much more you can get done before you "show" it. Come on, would YOU walk across the street to see something that looks like a project? What if you could see a bunch of huge rust holes, some badly repaired panels, mis-matched paint? There are millions of pretty sorry project cars running around, but only the exceptionally nice ones should be in shows, unless its a  "street" type event, where half the cars look like yours.  Even if you have put in a lot of time and money in your car, and have an inspired vison of what it could be, if it isn't up to at least "neat street", don't be offended if the average joe sees it for what it is, not what you feel.
     Just because you like Pintos, as we all do, don't expect people to suspend their opinions of what is "show".
     Good luck, try harder to make your car really nice, there are a lot fewer of these old cars to try to exemplify, thanks to the car crushers and "racers" who consume them by the dozen, just to destroy them.
     I would love to see "before " and "after" pictures of your car, it helps us all to keep pluggin' when we see it happen to other people. Thanks---
Keep on Keepin on

DreamBean

I'm Sorry guys. I hated to say that. But let me tell you why. I was on vacation a couple of weeks ago, I wanted to go to a car show with the Pinto. I found a few close by but thought that I would go to one that I haven't been to. Now I know that my car is not finished and needs painting. It's Three colors, Blue 76 front clip, White 80 body with a black scoop.
I find the car show and followed a small truck in. The officer directs the truck as where to park and as I get to him he says" I am sorry, This is for the car show. Would you please turn around and park else where." I said that I was there for the show and he almost breaks out laughing. And then says" You are gonna show This?" My wife spoke up before I got the chance to and said that if he knew what was under the hood he would not be laughing. He said for me to pull up and park beside the truck and walks away from the car quickly.
I parked and went to sign in and hunt this guy. Guess what. He was no where to be found. I hunted him the whole car show. I wanted to tell him just what was on my mind. The wife had already called my little brother to go my bail. Because I was going to open a can of whoop $%% on this fool. Why are people like that??.
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