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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: dga57 on July 03, 2022, 12:31:55 PM
Underwriters have delayed many a mortgage... it's what they do best!  Be patient, it will all work out.

Dwayne :)
Yep my agent said this happens with big banks as opposed to mortgage companies.  They don't see the whole picture which is what happened. The cash is there but the monthly revenue  dropped so they are freaking out. I'm putting my confidence in my agent since he is good at his job. All I can do.

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dga57

Underwriters have delayed many a mortgage... it's what they do best!  Be patient, it will all work out.

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

House sale has been delayed unfortunately. The buyer's lender ran final numbers... got the appraisal and inspection... got final copies of their statements- PROBLEM!!!
He is a contractor by trade and when he doesn't work he doesn't get a check. Well he went on vacation. While funds were banked they are concerned about the drop in monthly pay due to the vacation. So back to underwriting it went. I'm now in a holding patter, which prevents me from getting a Pinto.

The ones I've had interest in will be there or they won't. If it's meant to be it will be. I'm at a stand still for packing and moving since there's nothing else I can do.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on June 28, 2022, 11:53:16 AM
For sure! And I can always customize it to make it my own. Having a solid base is more important since things can be swapped. I can make it look like a 77-8. I have the knowledge and parts. Having a good base is more important since structural  repairs cost more money and ability.

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r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on June 28, 2022, 11:01:08 AM
That's the idea: do your homework!  Go into it with that attitude and you'll find a winner!

Dwayne :)
For sure! And I can always customize it to make it my own. Having a solid base is more important since things can be swapped. I can make it look like a 77-8. I have the knowledge and parts. Having a good base is more important since structural  repairs cost more money and ability.

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1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

That's the idea: do your homework!  Go into it with that attitude and you'll find a winner!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Definitely. 1: beauty is only skin deep. 2: rust is evil. 3: mechanical condition is important. 4: In the case of these cars it doesn't matter how the outer structure looks if it's rusted underneath. .

I get suspension may need rebuilt (I have full suspension kit in the garage). Color combinations are important but can be changed. I don't like brown but get a car with a good, solid base and it can be repainted. The 80 I bought too quickly and did not do research first. the 77 I wagon I wanted and fell in love with my parents old wagon. The 77 sedan I passed on and then went back to, thinking it was fixable without looking it over.

Live and learn. Both are nice looking cars but I'd want to see pictures underneath before making the drive. I'd want to have some idea of mechanical condition before going without a tow unit. Time will tell.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Assuming they are comparable otherwise, I'd personally prefer the Squire... but it's your decision and will be your car.  One good thing is, having gotten burned before, you have a pretty good idea what to look for!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

This is the other one. It's a little closer to me.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

I want lol. If still available  after my house sale I'm going after it.

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1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on June 25, 2022, 11:48:19 PM
For sure. I'm actually looking at possibly a 1980 squire or a 1979 wagon. Both keep getting my interest and worth looking deeper at. The 79 has a v6, ac, and deluxe interior. 

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Well, I'm wishing the very best for you, whatever you decide!  Have a great rest of the weekend!

Dwayne :)


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r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on June 25, 2022, 09:28:30 PM
The more widely you search, the better your prospects.  I'm sure the Pinto you want is out there somewhere, but you must be patient and open to a broad search area.  Unlike you, my favorite Pinto is the Runabout.  In my case, it got VERY specific because I wanted a twin of the one I purchased new in 1974 when I was sixteen years old.  My 20+ year search finally unearthed the right car, albeit with a slight compromise.  My original had the 2.3 with a 4 spd. manual transmission while the one I eventually purchased has the right engine, but is an automatic.  My hope is to someday be able to swap that out for a manual but, at age 65 now, I can't waste twenty more years searching for that!  lol  I got the right year and model, right color, right color interior, and I take that as a win!  The body was basically solid but had a few dings, some rust which was all contained to one panel and therefore remedied by panel replacement,  and it needed paint to look really good... got all that taken care of professionally .   Just for the record, I found it roughly 3000 miles from home.  Oh well!  The sad part is that, while searching for the perfect orange '74 Runabout, I purchased two Pintos I really didn't want.  Oh, I wanted a Pinto, but a very specific one and these were both poor substitutes for what I truly wanted.  The first was a brown '72 sedan 1.6 with a 4 spd.  transmission.  It was a little rough around the edges but ran great.  I purchased it in Maryland and drove it home to Virginia (about 150 miles) on the Interstate without issue.  My problem was that even though it felt amazing to be behind the wheel of a Pinto again, there was nothing about the car that really motivated me to involve myself in it.  I ultimately sold it for about the same as I paid for it, so it all worked out.  I then bought a gorgeous '72 Squire wagon with a 2.0 and automatic in North Carolina and, again, drove it home without issue.  I have to admit I did drive this one a bit more because it was so nice it practically looked new, but I never really felt any emotional attachment to it either.  I tell you all this to reinforce your statement that it "has to be the RIGHT Pinto".  If it's not, you'll lose interest in a hurry.  Don't compromise... you'll regret it!  Happy Pinto hunting!!!

Dwayne :)
For sure. I'm actually looking at possibly a 1980 squire or a 1979 wagon. Both keep getting my interest and worth looking deeper at. The 79 has a v6, ac, and deluxe interior. 

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1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

The more widely you search, the better your prospects.  I'm sure the Pinto you want is out there somewhere, but you must be patient and open to a broad search area.  Unlike you, my favorite Pinto is the Runabout.  In my case, it got VERY specific because I wanted a twin of the one I purchased new in 1974 when I was sixteen years old.  My 20+ year search finally unearthed the right car, albeit with a slight compromise.  My original had the 2.3 with a 4 spd. manual transmission while the one I eventually purchased has the right engine, but is an automatic.  My hope is to someday be able to swap that out for a manual but, at age 65 now, I can't waste twenty more years searching for that!  lol  I got the right year and model, right color, right color interior, and I take that as a win!  The body was basically solid but had a few dings, some rust which was all contained to one panel and therefore remedied by panel replacement,  and it needed paint to look really good... got all that taken care of professionally .   Just for the record, I found it roughly 3000 miles from home.  Oh well!  The sad part is that, while searching for the perfect orange '74 Runabout, I purchased two Pintos I really didn't want.  Oh, I wanted a Pinto, but a very specific one and these were both poor substitutes for what I truly wanted.  The first was a brown '72 sedan 1.6 with a 4 spd.  transmission.  It was a little rough around the edges but ran great.  I purchased it in Maryland and drove it home to Virginia (about 150 miles) on the Interstate without issue.  My problem was that even though it felt amazing to be behind the wheel of a Pinto again, there was nothing about the car that really motivated me to involve myself in it.  I ultimately sold it for about the same as I paid for it, so it all worked out.  I then bought a gorgeous '72 Squire wagon with a 2.0 and automatic in North Carolina and, again, drove it home without issue.  I have to admit I did drive this one a bit more because it was so nice it practically looked new, but I never really felt any emotional attachment to it either.  I tell you all this to reinforce your statement that it "has to be the RIGHT Pinto".  If it's not, you'll lose interest in a hurry.  Don't compromise... you'll regret it!  Happy Pinto hunting!!!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

As the end of the current chapter is near another begins. I'm starting to get excited while looking at all the boxes and empty shelves in my house. 9 years in the making. My garage is nearly packed, sockets organized (I found 7 10mm sockets!!!). I started looking through Pinto listings as I really want to take some of the proceeds and get a Pinto. Here is what I've decided.
hatchbacks are 100% out. I don't care if it was flawless I won't pay for one.  They aren't my style.Now if someone wants to pay me or give me a free hatchback model that is in excellent condition I'd be a fool lol.

71-73 I'm not a fan of, but would consider a sedan of those years. Don't like the skinny bumpers personally. The sedan would be an exception since my mom had a 73 sedan she loved.
74-78: I would be happy with a sedan, but very happy with a wagon- preferably squire. I love the 77-78 style and can see myself putting the slant nose 77-8 on a 74-76.

79-80: not really a fan of the square nose but something about those wagons speak to me. Again I'd prefer a squire but wouldn't turn away a conventional wagon.
I know what I am getting from my house sale so there is plenty to bank while getting a nice driver Pinto. Doesn't need to be perfect as I enjoy tinkering. Deluxe seats aren't a must but would be nice. I have a pair of fronts from my 80 that I can't sell even at a price of $50 so I will save those to be eventually recovered as necessary.
While it doesn't need to be fully stock I don't want a heavily modded one, nor am I interested in any Pinto with a V8 installed. Prefer a 2.3 4 cylinder automatic but would consider any stock Pinto drivetrain if the car spoke to me.

In the end I feel I should be able to get a nice sedan or wagon for a good price, even if it means a road trip. I want a Pinto. I NEED a Pinto. It just has to be the RIGHT Pinto. One that speaks to me.

I REFUSE to make the mistake I made with the 78 hatch, 80 hatch, and 77 squire rotbox wagon, and in some degree 77 sedan. That one I wish I could have saved. I loved that car to death but it was rustier than I thought when I bought her. I held onto her for years after I saw she was too far gone. Even drove it around the block occasionally because I loved her that much.

If anyone wants to give tips on where to look or how to get it I'm all ears. The only thing I know is I know what I want and based on the criteria above it's achievable.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress