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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Wittsend

I guess I've done a little better. My wife got 8 years out of her MPV Mazda Mini van. But when the transmission went out (108k miles) the value wasn't there to replace it. The kids were older and I said "No auto trans cars and no V-6's (because the engines get buried under the cowl and are nearly impossible to work on)." The past 13 years she has been driving a rather trouble free 5-speed Civic. So,  21 years and two cars for her. Her mom passed recently and there is some pocket change to replace the Civic but she is in no rush. She wants a Forester..., but the CVT I'm a bit leerly of.

rob289c

I drive my cars until they won't.  My wife on the other hand leases every three years.  Waste of $$$ in my opinion...
rob289c

Wittsend

The past 20 years or so my daily drivers have been cars on the lower end of the market. In 2004 my brother gave me his 1991 Mazda 323 FREE! After 6-1/2 years at 192,000 miles it was showing its age. The last smog test it hit the highest number it could on HC to pass. So, I knew the next time around it would fail - and it did.  The state was offering $1,000 to take that "gross polluter" off the road.


I then paid $1,900 gross ($900 net with the gross polluter rebate) for a 2000 Mazda Protege (image attached). I still have that car 12 years later and it only has 142,000 miles. Pre-Pandemic I was driving about 4,000 miles a year. Now I drive about 500 miles a year. So, I may have this car a l-o-n-g time. 18-1/2 years (and counting) for $900. What is that,  two or three new car payments for the average person? I fund my old car hobby by not spending on daily drivers.  :)





dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on May 21, 2023, 07:29:11 AM
What's bad is a $1500 vehicle still needs a LOT of work to be a good, reliable vehicle. After putting a couple thousand in it the van gets me around safely. Is what it is.





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r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on May 21, 2023, 06:25:32 AM
I have a dear friend (single mom with a low-income job) who's looking for a vehicle in that price range... they aren't easy to come by!  In the meantime, I loaned her my 2020 Ram Limited pickup and she's been driving that for six months now.  Reliable transportation is such an important thing, and all too often people find themselves struggling to find it.  Obviously, she can't keep my truck forever, but it has certainly been a boost for her until she finds something she can afford. 

Dwayne :)
What's bad is a $1500 vehicle still needs a LOT of work to be a good, reliable vehicle. After putting a couple thousand in it the van gets me around safely. Is what it is.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: r4pinto on May 19, 2023, 09:48:19 AM
Taking it all one day at a time. I wasn't thrilled about buying the van to replace my daily, especially when a $1500 van needs work to be good. More than likely better than a Pinto wagon, which would have seat limitations and possibly mechanical limitations as well. Not a bad car, but not great. Helped us move without a moving truck lol.

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I have a dear friend (single mom with a low-income job) who's looking for a vehicle in that price range... they aren't easy to come by!  In the meantime, I loaned her my 2020 Ram Limited pickup and she's been driving that for six months now.  Reliable transportation is such an important thing, and all too often people find themselves struggling to find it.  Obviously, she can't keep my truck forever, but it has certainly been a boost for her until she finds something she can afford. 

Dwayne :)



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r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on May 06, 2023, 11:25:05 AM
Sorry to hear about the setback Matt, but you're still young... it's amazing what time can do.  In the meantime, enjoy the family and the new house.  Good to hear from you!

Dwayne :)
Taking it all one day at a time. I wasn't thrilled about buying the van to replace my daily, especially when a $1500 van needs work to be good. More than likely better than a Pinto wagon, which would have seat limitations and possibly mechanical limitations as well. Not a bad car, but not great. Helped us move without a moving truck lol.

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dga57

Sorry to hear about the setback Matt, but you're still young... it's amazing what time can do.  In the meantime, enjoy the family and the new house.  Good to hear from you!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

r4pinto

Quote from: caravan3921 on May 03, 2023, 02:55:05 PM
Thanks for the update, sorry to hear of theft. Did your house sell?
Obviously your priorities right now are kids and work, however....never say never.
A Pinto could still be in your future, someday, somehow.
Warm regards!
House sold last August. I know what you're saying but needed the cash to get the car.  That money went towards the van, and down payment on a new house. Is what it is.

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caravan3921

Thanks for the update, sorry to hear of theft. Did your house sell?
Obviously your priorities right now are kids and work, however....never say never.
A Pinto could still be in your future, someday, somehow.
Warm regards!


r4pinto

Quote from: caravan3921 on September 21, 2022, 09:57:05 AM
any updates on the house sale and buying a pinto?
It's been a while. Just logged in after time off here. Unfortunately I needed to buy another car to drive due to the theft of my 2016 Durango. It was recovered, but insurance would only cover 30 days. Since I needed to get to and from work ad well as get the kids from school I bought an 05 Chrysler Town and Country. My days of owning a Pinto are probably over. There is no time or money for them any more.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

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r4pinto

Quote from: caravan3921 on August 20, 2022, 09:53:50 PM
is this one still available, that you showed us back in June?
Cheering you on to the finish line!
That one I think sold. The ad is gone. There are a couple others though

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

Quote from: caravan3921 on August 20, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
in the meantime, I covet this one, looks like my first one I bought at 21 years of age!


There's nothing quite like that first one, is there?  I bought my first Pinto brand new when I was sixteen and later spent more than twenty years trying to find one that matched it (the actual car was demolished in a collision by its second owner).  The sensation I experienced when I finally found and bought it is indescribable!

Dwayne :)
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caravan3921

in the meantime, I covet this one, looks like my first one I bought at 21 years of age!

caravan3921

is this one still available, that you showed us back in June?
Cheering you on to the finish line!

caravan3921


r4pinto

I officially close this week. Hopefully I can get a wagon soon  after. Considering my daily driver was stolen I might have to use it after my rental coverage is complete. 30 days total, no deviation. The car can't even get in the shop until 45 days after

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Quote from: caravan3921 on August 10, 2022, 01:49:38 PM
We share your passion for Pintos!!
Which is one of the things I enjoy about this site.

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r4pinto

For sure. Seems they are popping up all over and in good shape. I'd be more than happy to get one.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

caravan3921

the wagons are listed as buy now or best offer.  No one seems to be snatching them up at their listed prices.
But I hear 'ya: first things first!

r4pinto

Quote from: caravan3921 on August 08, 2022, 08:50:05 AM
have you seen the 2 wagons on ebay?
I have but I need to have the house sold before even bidding on anything. And the prices on ebay are a little higher than I'd prefer to pay. First things first... house be gone lol.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

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r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on August 07, 2022, 12:05:46 PM
At least with the current real estate market being what it is, it doesn't take long to overcome a setback.  It will be a done deal before you know it!!!

Dwayne :)
It's back in contract, although the market isn't as good as it was due to rising rates. The offer I took was 19k less than the original offer, that was probably overinflated to begin with. I still look to make a good profit and be able to get me that wagon.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

caravan3921

Thanks for the updates!
Cheering you on to the finish line.
The wait will be worth it. 
The desire accomplished will be sweet to the soul!

dga57

At least with the current real estate market being what it is, it doesn't take long to overcome a setback.  It will be a done deal before you know it!!!

Dwayne :)
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r4pinto

Well the house is back in contract. Hopefully it goes well and I can get a pinto soon. Unfortunately I will have to hold off to get a wagon or sedan until then. Anticipated closing date is 8/26.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Quote from: Dtmix on July 09, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
My best friend is in the business, and I could ask him to grease the wheels if his company is handling the underwriting...may I ask what company are you dealing with? No promises...but worth a try? The longer you are without a Pinto, the worse a withdrawal you'll be experiencing!

Happy Motoring (errmm, shall I say Happy Banking?)

Dan
Appreciate the offer. Unfortunately they backed out and it's now back on the market. The buyer broke cardinal rule #1. Don't do anything that will cause a change in your financial status. He worked less and pat statements showed less income.

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1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Dtmix

My best friend is in the business, and I could ask him to grease the wheels if his company is handling the underwriting...may I ask what company are you dealing with? No promises...but worth a try? The longer you are without a Pinto, the worse a withdrawal you'll be experiencing!

Happy Motoring (errmm, shall I say Happy Banking?)

Dan
Happy Motoring!
Dan