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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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krazi

Quote from: Wittsend on May 27, 2021, 10:39:42 AM
Remember that insurance adjusters are not necessarily "car guys."  I would find support on the internet for what similar cars have sold for (I'd include Pinto's too). Otherwise, yes, they will just look at the year and apply minimal value.

have dave hester from storage wars put a value on it. you could be driving a million dollar antique car
yeah, I'm Krazi!

oldandcrotchety

 Can't you just have the frame straightened?  Back when I was in the body shop business a lot of the shops had their own frame machine.  I never did because there was a frame shop not far from my shop and whenever I needed one straightened I would just haul the car over and have them do it. Was cheaper than investing in a Blackhawk machine of my own.   

1977Bobcat

So an update.  The frame is bent badly.  Engine won't fit back in.

It has been sitting at the shop where it was wrecked. no progress. I haven't had the stomach to face the next step with the bobcat. 

Dtmix

I found the article at Hemmings regarding Collector Car Insurance.  It also includes examples of scenarios within the article, and a list of collector car insurers and their contact information.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/classic-coverage

Happy Motoring!
Dan

PS-How's the Bobcat doing so far?  Were you able to get it repaired?  I am sure I am not alone wondering how it is going!
Happy Motoring!
Dan

Dtmix

Your wife sounds just like my mother, but I can totally understand their perspective.  I am from a military family, and we moved frequently as a result. Once my dad retired from the service, they finally brought a house, where they lived for the last fifty years.  Hence, she did not want to move, which became an issue when she got older. It was a Cape Cod style house with the laundry in the basement and sleeping quarters upstairs. After falling so many times, it became clear that her remaining there will be dangerous to her well-being and my mental health (chuckling...she was in NY and I am in Ohio). She was no longer able to walk, and required assistance with her daily living skills, I purchased a condo a mile from my home.  She lived there for three years until she passed away last December at 91 years old. It was a tough decision, and one that was not made lightly. I am hopeful that your wife would be able to remain in your home for a long time, but be mindful that accommodations to the house may become necessary. Fingers crossed.

Back to the insurance issue...that is an excellent point as many policies requires the car to be garaged at all times. I would have loved seeing your driveway with all the Roll Royces, Lincolns, and Pintos!  That must have been quite a sight to behold!  :-)

I will try to locate that Hemmings article in the meantime!

Happy Motoring!
Dan

Happy Motoring!
Dan

dga57

Quote from: Dtmix on June 02, 2021, 03:31:46 PM
As for his policy, I am not sure what happens if it exceeds the agreed upon value...can he pay the difference and keep the car without having to surrender the title? Maybe Dwayne knows...you will have to ask him.


Excellent question, Dan!  I honestly don't remember all the policy's details... it's been insured there since the day I bought it... about eight years ago.  The thing that appealed to me about it was the lack of a requirement for it to be garaged.  I don't have a garage, nor room to build one, and my wife refuses to move.  I utillized the garage space at my mother's house for years and had planned to move into it at some point.  In my mind, it was perfect; free house (inheritance), handicap accessible (for my wife or any other future needs), two-car attached garage and plenty of room to add an additional three-car garage attached by a breeezeway.  The paved driveway was designed in such a way that it wouldn't have had to be altered in order to accommodate that.  While I was planning all that, I failed to mention it to my wife and when I did she stated flatly that she did NOT want to live there; this is her home and she has no intention of leaving it until they carry her out feet first!  It's a shame because it would be so much better location for us, but she was the child of two Salvation Army Officers who moved frequently.  She had moved more than twenty times when I met her.  Once we bought our home 24 years ago, she put down roots and intends to live out the remainder of her life right here, despite the house not being very well suited (split foyer design) to us since her stroke and subsequent incapacitation . Okay... I get it.  So, my solution was to sell all my collectible cars and get over it.  That included a couple of Lincolns, a Rolls-Royce, and one Pinto.  The two Pintos I own now were purchased since I sold that property.  I could rent garage space I suppose, but then they'd probably never get driven!  Que Serra Serra!

Dwayne ::)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Dtmix

Yes, Dwayne is correct to mention that some insurers have policies written on an agreed upon value like his. I was referencing to the typical auto policies in my post, as many are unaware of classic car policies. As for his policy, I am not sure what happens if it exceeds the agreed upon value...can he pay the difference and keep the car without having to surrender the title? Maybe Dwayne knows...you will have to ask him.

Every insurer's classic car policies differ, so it's important to compare. Hagerty, which covers mine, have no mileage limits but they do expect you to have another car as your daily driver...you are not required to insure your primary driver with them. Other companies may require your presence with the car for coverage...so if you stop at a diner and leave the car unattended, you are not covered. Some requires the car to be within a certain radius of your home address, making it problematic if you drive to Hershey or Carlisle. Just think of how you plan to use the car, and use that as your baseline when comparing insurance policies. If you never go to shows or take it out of your neighborhood, focus on limited mileage policies, while others may take their classics on vacation, parking at hotels out of sight, your policy should reflect coverage for such. Some policies will also cover parts that you purchased but is not yet installed while others do not.

There is a publication on comparing classic car insurance...I think it was Hemmings , but I am not sure. I will try to locate the article and come back to post it.

Fingers crossed for your Bobcat!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Happy Motoring!
Dan

dga57

Quote from: Dtmix on May 29, 2021, 10:58:56 AM

If you are with the typical insurer like Allstate, State Farm, they will simply say it's totaled and demand for your title....keep the title away from them as they will brand it salvage when your car is easily repaired (at least from the pictures). They will say parts are not available...wh ich is partly true...laws forbids insurers from using used parts, limiting them to aftermarket or OEM parts which will make it "unavailable."  That's sad in many cases as I see simple damage being written off when it's repairable.   

Can't speak to the products of other insurance companies, but State Farm (at least in Virginia) offers classic car policies with "agreed value" much like Hagerty.  It helps protect your investment, but it severely limits allowable mileage.  My '72 Squire's usage falls within the mileage restrictions and it is registered/licensed as an antique (not necessary so far as State Farm is concerned) so it seemed the logical course.  An "in-person" assessment of the car and photos taken by the insurance broker are part of the process. 

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Dtmix

After doing the work on my Pinto, that is my biggest fear...someone would redesign my car with theirs...sigh.  I am so sorry for your loss, and have faith to bring it back from the ashes!  I know it is not a Pontiac Phoenix...but it'll rise!  :-)

I concur with others as for their opinion that the insured lady who careened and struck your Bobcat.  Her insurer would typical do a subrogation against the other driver, but since he had no insurance, they are left holding the bag.  The garage would not be held liable, and they may make a claim against her insurer, as her car struck the building.

I hope you are insured by a specialty classic car insurance like Hagerty or others, as they are "car guys" who would do whatever they can to get it repaired, even if it goes over a set agreed amount, with you paying the difference. They also have part locator services at no charge.

If you are with the typical insurer like Allstate, State Farm, they will simply say it's totaled and demand for your title....keep the title away from them as they will brand it salvage when your car is easily repaired (at least from the pictures). They will say parts are not available...which is partly true...laws forbids insurers from using used parts, limiting them to aftermarket or OEM parts which will make it "unavailable."  That's sad in many cases as I see simple damage being written off when it's repairable. I checked online, and there are parts for your car.  It is hard to see the fenders, but the paint does not appear cracked and could possibly be straightened, and replacing the hood, trim piece and grille. Let me know if you need help to locate parts for you.

It's about 45 days away for the Pinto Stampede...so I hope to see you there!  :-)

Happy Motoring!

Dan
Happy Motoring!
Dan

TIGGER

Wow that sucks to say the least.  I have some bobcat stuff in case you need something.  I do not have a grille but I have some front trim and headlight buckets etc.  Just letting you know in case you find some of that stuff needs replaced.

good luck to you sir.
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JoeBob

When my car was hit the drivers insurance company paid $2000.00. Hagerty paid $4000.00 because of our agreed value.
I am amazed and pleased for you that your grill seems to have survived.  I bumped into the grill on my 77 when working on the engine, I broke the mounting bracket.
77 yellow Bobcat hatchback
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Wittsend

Remember that insurance adjusters are not necessarily "car guys."  I would find support on the internet for what similar cars have sold for (I'd include Pinto's too). Otherwise, yes, they will just look at the year and apply minimal value. Wishing you all the best.

As to who is responsible, that may vary from state to state. Typically it is whoever's car hit someone. Sadly a person can be at a red light, foot on the brake and be hit from behind and pushed into the car in front of them. Regardless THEY are responsible for hitting the car in front, not the guy who hit them from behind. It is just one of life unfair aspects. In this case the woman who hit your car becomes the double victim. She was hit and her car damaged and possibly no recourse because the other driver had no insurance and yet she is responsible for the damage to your car.

HOSS429

if you have agreed value insurance from someone like hagerty you will be ok but if not expect an offer of maybe 3 or 4 hundred from the other insurance company ..

oldandcrotchety

Well, the damage doesn't look too bad. (I used to own a paint & body shop).  I'm guessing that the lady that ran into your car will be responsible.  Bad thing is that the insurance company will likely balk because of the age of your car.  They will likely say that it is so old that it is worthless. I've run into this before. A friend of mine (I did all his paint and body work) owned a mint 1971 Corvette that got hit and received about $3,000.00 worth of damage and the insurance company wanted to pay about $800.00 because they insisting it was just an old Chevrolet.  He finally told them that this was a mint classic collector car worth thousands of dollars and he would meet them in court.  Once they understood that he was serious they cut him a check for $4,000.00 to make him go away.

1977Bobcat

Today, my 1977 Mercury Bobcat was crashed into outside an automotive shop; where it was being repaired, so I could go to the Pinto Stampede.  No one was hurt but the Bobcat did fare well.

A lady was sideswiped by an uninsured car. She panicked and hit the accelerator and drove into my Bobcat and into the front of the garage.  She is insured.

My front end is pushed about an inch to the drivers side. Hood, fenders, doors, grill are dented.

So who is responsible for my car?  Garage?  Insured lady who hit my car? Or uninsured driver that caused the accident.