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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dga57

Quote from: rob289c on August 25, 2024, 06:08:28 PM
I made progress and getting closer to being able to start and then drive it.

That's the day I'm looking forward to! 

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Today I compounded, then polished the body.  Overall it came out nice and has a nice luster.  Unfortunately I burned through the paint in a couple of spots...nothing I can do about it now.  I also hooked the transmission lines back up.  I was going to make new lines but put the old crusty ones back in.  I put the fuel line back in place but ended up cutting it and will make it a 2-piece line with a double flare union to connect them.  Trying to manipulate and modify the one-piece Mustang line was proving to be too much trouble.  Anyway, I made progress and getting closer to being able to start and then drive it.
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I was going to bend my own fuel lines and even bought a length of line.  After looking at my Fastback's fuel line I decided the intricate bends at the rear around the trunk area were going to be a PITA so I broke down and bought a one-piece 5/16" fuel like for a 67 Mustang for CJ Pony Parts ($90  :o).  I will use it at the rear and modify as necessary to get it to fit up to the fuel pump.  It was way too long for this project so I already cut 3-4' off the front.  I will repurpose the part I cut off to be used as one of my transmission cooling lines.  As for the fuel line, I did test fit at the rear yesterday but I am going to have to remove the left rear shock and maybe disconnect the parking brake cables to get it in the right spot.  It isn't going to be a fun job.  Once I have it bent, I will use it as a pattern to bend up the 1/4" fuel return line and install them together.  The Mustang didn't have a return line, but the the Pinto does.  I was able to get a Mustang gas tank sending unit that has supply and return line tappings.  Yesterday I also aligned the deck lid as best I could.  It is an aftermarket part and I don't like the way the left and right lines fit the top of the quarter panels, but as I keep reminding myself, it was never intended to be a perfect show car.  This morning I installed the trunk lock assembly.  It needs further adjustment and I will mess with that at a later time.  Tomorrow I plan to compound, then polish the body.  No wet sanding as the paint is single stage metallic and several body men and other research said DO NOT wet sand it.  What I do tomorrow will be fine. 

Today I am riding the Harley to Syracuse for a 174th Fighter Wing Alumni Picnic with a guy I served with.  He also happens to be my son in law's father.  Maybe I will get a little progress on the project later today, but it may have to wait till tomorrow. 
rob289c

rob289c

A few more things to report:  The deck lid is installed but not yet perfectly aligned.  I am going to loosen the quarter panel extensions, then put the big dog pillow on the decklid, a piece of plywood on top of it, then a piece of railroad track on that for weight to hold it down.  Then I will get under the car (the gas tank is not in place) and loosen the decklid mounting bolts and trunk hinge bolts.  Then I will move the decklid and quarter panel extensions into the best positions, then tighten everything down.  That should align things pretty nicely. 

Beyond that, I installed tightened the power steering hoses, but still need to get some cushion clamps to mount and secure them.  The pressure hose connection at the pump concerns me...It is an o-ring seal and it doesn't tighten like I  think it should the instructions say it is a swivel fit so I have to believe it is installed correctly and won't leak.  I connected the throttle cable to the bracket and snapped the fitting over the ball.  I also bolted the trunk lid latch on to the bracket at the rear of the trunk area.  I started looking at how the fuel line should be run.  If anyone has a narrative on how it runs between the fuel pump to the rear, including how it runs down and mounts to the frame rail will be welcome.

Lots of little things to do that take time.  Gotta keep making progress!
rob289c

rob289c

This is a non-productive weekend when it comes to my project.  My employer is a major sponsor of our county fair so I spend every evening manning the booth, my car club's annual car show was yesterday, today I have to strip, then wax the floor at my VFW.  Friday before bed I went out to the shop and adhered the weather stripping to the trunk lid.  I am looking to install the trunk lid to the car later this afternoon when I get home from the VFW. 
rob289c

rob289c

This needs to be black!
rob289c

rob289c

Today I did a lot of little things that don't show up as progress, but all necessary.  I bolted the dimmer switch in place.  I washed the Mustang II grill and reinstalled the marker light assembles.  I packed it back up and it's back in its box awaiting installation.  I spread out the under hood and rear lighting wiring harnesses out on the floor and got reacquainted with the connections.  I labeled the ends with masking tape and Sharpie when I removed it, but some of my writing isn't legible.  I think I have most of it figured out.   am going to wipe down the harnesses with mineral spirits before reinstalling.  I am going to have to re-wire pretty much the entire ignition section as it was in bad shape and I had to cob it together to get the engine to run prior to removing it.  I bought a Duraspark II wiring kit about three years ago so I should be able to make it serviceable.  I cleaned, lubed and installed the speedo cable, and re-installed the to floor frame pieces I fabbed last Fall.  I set the shifter in place just to see how it looks.  I disassembled the rear quarter windows and cleaned all the old dry grease out of the roller tracks and rollers.  I washed the assemblies so they are nicer to handle.  I still need to degrease the regulators, re-lube everything and install.  I cleaned the transmission lines but I think I need to get new ones made.  They are pretty corroded at the radiator end.  I don't trust them for the long term.  I will take them to the local hydraulic shop to get new ones made.  I wire wheeled the rear valance attaching hardware, the trunk lid hardware, the coil mount and starter relay mount, then primed and painted black.  Soon to be installed.  I took the instrument cluster out of it's box and realized I missed painting it what I sprayed black paint a few weeks ago.  I'll have to mix up a small batch so I can hide that hideous orange!  This AM I ordered 25' of red and 25' of black 1 ga battery cable and lug ends.  I am relocating the battery to the truck so I needed quite a bit of cable.  I also ordered a tube of 3M weather strip adhesive so I can install the trunk weather strip, then I can mount the trunk lid.  Once that's on, I will polish the paint.   I think that's it for now.  More next weekend.
rob289c

rob289c

Today after work I installed the side scoop ornaments and quarter panel extensions.  I also got a couple of boxes of parts and the rear window assemblies out of storage so I can start cleaning and installing. 

Tomorrow (Saturday) I will be attending a car show that is part of a street festival in my home town, and Sunday I will be back on the project.
rob289c

rob289c

It's been a lot of work and it's engineer it as I go.  One modification generally leads to several other work-arounds to figure out.  I made a punch list of to-do items to get me close to the end but there are many I didn't list that will pop up. 
rob289c

alwaysFlOoReD

Wow! That IS a major upgrade!Good luck.

rob289c

Thank you...I look it over every time I go out in the garage...I see a lot of spots where I should have spent more time and attention to detail, but then have to remind myself that I spent more time than I really wanted to and my skill level is novice at best.  I can't knit-pick a few pinholes and underlying crappy metal.  This was never intended to be a show car, but as you know, you always wish it was better!  Overall I am satisfied and it will garner a lot of attention when I drive it to its first cruise in!  I know the Mustang purists are going to tell me that I ruined a perfectly good Mustang until I show them what I started out with!  She was a real beauty...
rob289c

alwaysFlOoReD

You're making progress! Awesome job so far...

rob289c

I unmasked everything and wiped down dust from the last several months.  I had a helper for a few minutes and torqued the front wheel adapters.  I had previously only snugged them so now they are torqued with Loctite.  Back on 4 wheels so I pushed it back into its spot.  Now I can get up into he overhead and get parts that I can now start to do reassembly.  The orange steering wheel is only temporary.  More next weekend...
rob289c

rob289c

I don't know if I will do anything else to it this weekend.  I need to keep my paws off it so the paint cures.  I accidentally touched it...I had a rag on my left shoulder and as I bent down to look at the paint it started falling off.  When I went to grab it, I accidentally touched the left quarter panel and made a smudge.  Maybe it will buff out later.  Too soon to touch right now.  Anyway, another mission accomplished and I can move on to other things. 
rob289c

rob289c

Today was high humidity and started raining while I was painting, but it is now Medium Gray Metallic.  Not the best day to spray, but even perfect weather wouldn't make a silk purse out of this sow's ear!   ;D  I had just enough paint for 3 good coats and I wish I had just a little more...I ran out as I was giving the left sail panel its final coat so there is a little tiger striping.  I didn't have enough to blend it in. Anyway, other than the expected orange peel, it came out pretty good.  I won't touch it till tomorrow afternoon.  We are getting our daughter's dog tomorrow morning (babysitting)...he better not decide to investigate and scratch it! 
rob289c

rob289c

My little project will almost be a convertible.  There is a bit of a roof, but will be an open air vehicle.  I'll get that "wind in my hair" feeling, although there is a a lot less up there than I started with!  I had three convertibles when I was a teen:  '70 Cutlass, '65 Mustang, '68 Mustang.  I loved those cars.  Haven't had one since. 

I can't remember if I mentioned it previously...I procured my windscreen.  Polycarbonate (Lexan).  I'm waiting on the clips I am having made to hold the bottom of the windscreen to the cowl.  Then I can install but will have to dream up some sort of support for the top of it.  During one of my sleepless nights it will come to me. 

I am going to spray body color at some point over the next three days.  Sunday looks to be the best day weather-wise but I could do it as early as tomorrow (Friday), or even Saturday.  I want to get it done so I can move on.  Will report more after paint. 
rob289c

Wittsend


Quote from: dga57 on August 01, 2024, 11:24:58 AM
...  Feels good to have the wind blowing through my hair again! ...
Dwayne :)

If only I could have that experience.  :(  The "land clearing" on the top of my head is getting close to a complete flesh toned Cul De Sac.  ::)  Happy motoring! As we all get older the days to enjoy keep getting shorter and with less comfort. Grab them while you can.

dga57

I can't get over how much progress you've made while I wasn't paying attention!  It's looking good!  I didn't realize I hadn't been online for so long either... have had lots going on.  A little over a month ago I bought myself a 2017 Mercedes-Benz E400 cabriolet, so I've been out riding around with the top down instead of spending time on the computer.  lol This is the seventh convertible I've owned, but there was a six-year lap between this one and the 2015 Mustang I sold in 2018.  Feels good to have the wind blowing through my hair again!  Your progress looks amazing.  Can't wait to see the finished project!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

That's usually when I start taking short cuts and do shoddy work!  ;D  There are so many small details left to do but I will feel much better after the body and paint part is done.  I'm not that good at it so it's not going to be show car quality, but that was never my goal anyway.  I think the next phase will be to fabricate supply and return fuel lines, then secure fuel and brake lines to the frame.  Then I can install the wiring harnesses and get ready to hear the engine run for the first time in three or four years.  I'm going to trunk mount the battery so that will be another project: buy and mount a battery box, and routing long cables. 

I'll have to find some sort of radio.  I have the factory radio bezel.  Does anyone know of something that will fit in the hole?  I'm not interested in any high performance sound system...just want to have FM radio available.  I have JBL 6x9 speakers for the rear deck. 
rob289c

Wittsend

Progress for sure. Keep at it, it will eventual be complete. Sometime the last "mile" is the hardest.

rob289c

Every little bit gets me closer to completion...
rob289c

rob289c

Yesterday (Saturday) I sanded the urethane I sprayed last weekend.  It seems to have come out pretty nice.  Next Saturday I will wipe any residual dust off it with a damp sponge, then on Sunday, solvent wipe, then paint.  Today I sprayed various parts with interior black.  The paint is almost 50-50 leftover semi gloss and satin.  It looks pretty glossy after spraying; I hope it flattens out a bit after curing.   
rob289c

rob289c

Sprayed urethane today.  Next will be to sand it smooth, then color.  I got good coverage, but have tiger stripes.  I will have to widen the fan and open the fluid when I spray color.  The pics look similar to the previous posts, but it is a different product on the car now.  I may sand it next weekend but don't think I will spray color yet.  I need to take my time.  I have my HS reunion next weekend and have to look at a siding repair at my Mom's house.  I need to clean out the garage (sweep, leaf blower, power wash) to get and dust/debris out so I can spray in a clean environment.  I think waiting another week for color will be better in the long run.  Anyway, I made progress over the last two weeks.
rob289c

rob289c

This afternoon I sanded the truck lid, quarter panel extensions, and side scoop inserts to prepare for urethane.  I then masked the car.  Tomorrow I plan to wipe the body and other parts with solvent, then tack and spray urethane primer surfacer.  I hope to get 4 good coats, or as many as I can spray before I run out of material.  I will let it cure through the week, then sand it smooth next weekend.  At that point I will be able to spray color when my schedule allows.  Getting closer...
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rob289c

We spent T-Fri in San Antonio to watch our son graduate from Air Force Basic Training.  Like when our daughter did it a few years prior, it is a proud experience for parents. 

Project update:  before we left I had sprayed pieces/parts with epoxy.  This AM I sprayed the floor brackets, dash brackets, bumper/headlight brackets and the inside of the interior panels with black tractor enamel. 

rob289c

rob289c

This afternoon I sprayed epoxy on various brackets, the dash, glove box door, ash tray, interior panels and a few spots on the body.  I beat the storm that is just arriving.  Everything will have to sit as-is until I get back from TX.  I'm not sure on my next step.  I wasn't going to worry about primer surfacer on the dash but I think it will be better in the long run if I do.  The reconstructive bodywork is visible and the urethane might hide it a little better.  If that's next, I need to prep the body and spray it and the dash at the same time.  Once a product is mixed and in the gun, I don't want to have to mix up another batch down the road.  I want to do it all at once. 
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rob289c

Progress today:  I was out in the garage at 0600 grinding the welds I did yesterday.  Then I put away yesterday's tools, and started picking up shop.  I had to quit at 0700 to get ready to go to the barbershop.  After that and a few errands, then I pushed the car outside, blew off the dust and other debris with compressed air.  I then wiped the body and interior with a damp sponge.  I seam sealed the drip rails and the seam between the bottom of the quarter and the rocker, as well as some other areas that needed it.  I continued to rearrange, sweep, and get the garage ready to spray epoxy.  Tomorrow I start a week off from work.  I plan to shoot epoxy after running morning errands.  I won't make any other progress until next weekend as I will be going to San Antonio to watch my son graduate from Air Force Basic Training.  Next weekend I plan to spray the interior parts black.   
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rob289c

Yesterday I did something that I have thought about a lot but didn't want to do.  I tied the rear of the Pinto transmission hump to the rear floor section/driveshaft tunnel of the Mustang body.  The hump and tunnel are of different shapes and sizes so I knew it was going to be a PITA to fabricate with no special metal working tools and then getting it tacked and welded in place.  The right side was pretty easy as it was just a filler piece that with a little massaging, it went together pretty easily.  The left side was a little more complicated.  I had to fab a sort of a block off panel, then the filler piece.  Neither side is pretty, but with a little grinding, primer, seam sealer, and paint, it will be a functional repair.  It is solid and now the firewall/trans hump are tied to the rear of the body.  Like most parts of the project, it took way more time than I thought it would at the onset.  My plan is that once all together I want to cover the hump and down over the frame rails with diamond plate.  That will give it a more "finished" look.  It is still going to be a "step into" cockpit and will not have full floors.  I'll be sure to post pics when complete.

The other thing I have in work is I have a small metal shop fabricating the 9 windshield clips I will need to hold the windscreen in place at the cowl/firewall.  They are making them out of stainless so I won't have to coat them.  Not sure of ETA, but I don't need them right away anyway.

I will make more progress today and will try to get a progress report posted this evening. 
rob289c

rob289c

I love your 'Vair!  A friend in HS had a '66 2-door that we used to tool around in.  Another buddy had a '65.  I like the ones that were like a pick up but you (I) never see any of those.

As for the door jam area, I am planning to just paint it body color.  I am also looking to fabricate a triangulated piece out of round tubing that will be welded to a hinge at the firewall and extend back to where the striker plate would be to function as a door.  Really it will give the illusion of safety so neither driver nor passenger accidentally falls out.  It will just be pinned closed.  As for wood to give it a finished look, I have no talent with wood and limited wood working tools.  I am planning to cover the sides of the firewall with diamond plate to give it a "finished" look and also diamond plate on the floor sections to cover up the raggedy transmission hump and give that a more finished look.

Last night during my "I can't get back to sleep" session, I remembered that I still need to get the clips that will hold my windscreen to the cowl fabricated.  I need them ASAP as they will also need to be epoxy coated and painted.  I would like to not have to do another epoxy session...I want to spray everything at once while I have it mixed and in the spray gun.  Especially the small amount I will need to mix and spray on the clips.  Improper planning on my part...I should have had them fabbed already.  I may opt to have them powder-coated at the sheet metal shop as they perform that service too.  Then I won't have to worry about epoxy and paint.  Anyway, we're getting closer to the weekend so I hope to have more progress to report by Sunday.

Edit: on the inside vertical edge, I am going to install black windlace over the edge to cover it up.  It is the same material that the Mustang had from the factory. 
rob289c

Wittsend

You seem to be very happy having the weather to get back at it. it is really coning along. I was curious what the plans for the area circled in red are? It would seem wood might be a good product to make a "finisher" on that end.


BTW (as inspiration) I finally got my Corvair wagon running decent enough to get it to Cars & Coffee last weekend.