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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dga57

Quote from: rob289c on April 06, 2024, 07:20:31 AM
I will hopefully start posting progress again soon. 

Definitely looking forward to it!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

We had snow this week but the trend is for improving weather patterns.  Hopefully I can transform my Winter storage barn into an operating shop soon.  I need to get back on my project so I can get it done this Summer.  I have priming and painting to do so I need it to really warm up.  There are some other odds and ends I can do until it's warm enough to paint so I will hopefully start posting progress again soon. 
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rob289c

Hopefully soon there will be more of it and on a much more regular basis! 
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dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Yep, that's what it is.  I like the look...it reminds me of the "Cobra Power by Ford" valve covers on my Mustang's 289.
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Wittsend

Seems like a good guess. The center indent in the valve cover I believe is for the fuel injection manifold to cross over and provide hood clearance.

rob289c

I ordered and received a valve cover grommet and 1/2" 90.  It will ultimately be tied into the air cleaner.  I ordered it from Rock Auto for an '88 Ranger as I was guessing where the valve cover originally came from.  It took a little silicone spray and manipulation to get the grommet in, then I had to use the heat gun to soften the grommet to get the 90 in place.  It will have to come back out later in the project when I completely sand down the valve cover and either powder coat or paint with hi temp engine paint.  I just sprayed it with general purpose black spray paint so I could see what it was going to look like.  It was Ford Blue when I got it. 
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dga57

Something to look forward to for sure!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

No progress to report but there have been signs that Spring is coming.  I know there are several more weeks of Winter, but every day gets us closer to the end.  I am looking forward to working on my project again.  The next major progress will include bodywork and paint so I need it to get and stay warm.  There will be other smaller details I can work on but the major progress will be after paint has been sprayed. 
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Since nothing has been posted for a few days, I will let you know that I have done nothing on my project since 12/24.  It might be a while before I even lift the cover to look at it!  Otherwise, I hope all is well with all.  I'll let you know if any progress is made and if there is anything of value to report.
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dga57

Looking at it is better than not looking at it!  lol   Happy New Year!!!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

It was cold here today...started out around 32 with snow at 0730, and by afternoon it was mid-20's but sunny.  Weird weather.  I was outside working with techs this AM, but parked in front of the computer all afternoon.  Next week I will be evaluating techs (outside) so I'll have to bring the insulated gear.  If I keep my hands and feet warm, the rest of me will stay that way. 

Stay warm and only 3 more months of Winter!
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Wittsend

Considering you are in the land of Ice & Snow doing ANYTHING is an accomplishment.  It is 60F-65F degrees here in So. Cal. and it still takes a strong act of my will to want to go out and work on my cars. But then I have a condition called Renaud's when if the temperature goes below 85F my hands and feet feel icy cold - even in the summer.  It was so blatantly obvious when a group of us were at a Science Museum and stood before a thermal camera and I look so decidedly different. I guess you could call me "The Hidden Minority" based on (thermal) skin color.

rob289c

The only thing I did to my project this weekend was to pull the cover back so I could look at it!  Happy 2024 to All!
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dga57

It's starting to look like a Mustang II - I'm impressed!  Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Today I mounted the headlights...it's temporary, but I think this is going to be the permanent configuration with a little extra bracing welded in.  I have the fore and aft part of the mounts vice gripped in place.  I'll tack them in place the next time I get the welder out. 

Our weather is going to turn colder next week and I continue to work out of town so progress will be sporadic until Spring.  If I do anything, I will let everyone know.

Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, and Prosperous 2024 to all!

Rob
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dga57

Quote from: rob289c on December 17, 2023, 02:36:04 PM
Today I hogged out the bumper mount bolt holes and mounted the assembly, including what I have made for headlight mounts.  I still have some more to create for the headlight mounts but it seems to be coming together.  I'll take and send pics once I have the headlights mounted. 

Sounds good!!!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Today I hogged out the bumper mount bolt holes and mounted the assembly, including what I have made for headlight mounts.  I still have some more to create for the headlight mounts but it seems to be coming together.  I'll take and send pics once I have the headlights mounted. 
rob289c

rob289c

This coming weekend is looking promising weather-wise so I will likely get a little more done.  If/when the Winter weather takes over, I will start making plans for final body and paint, windscreen selection and order, wiring harness clean and prep, battery box/trunk mount and cables to the engine bay, and a host of things I haven't even thought of yet!  I am looking forward to Spring and it's not even Christmas yet!
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dga57

Wishing you more 40 degree days!  We woke up to snow this morning :(

Dwayne
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Some progress this weekend.  I fabbed and welded the latest iteration of the bumper and headlamp mounts.  One per side.  The attached pic doesn't really show how it came together or how it mounts to the car, but it will be under the bumper and mostly unseen.  In the Spring it will become black when I get the paint gun back out.  I need to drill out the mounting bolt holes and grind down some of the welds to make it prettier.  I still need to figure out the actual headlight mounting point but I think I have a good idea for that.  If we get any more 40 degree weather, I will continue to make progress. 
rob289c

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No progress today and none planned for tomorrow.  Today was LOF, tire rotation, and shift cable repair on daily driver.  Tomorrow LOF and tire rotation on wife's car.  Other obligations sprinkled in.  Maybe next week...
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rob289c

I did very little on my project over the Thanksgiving weekend, but I am satisfied with what I did.  I cut (2) 6" pieces of 2" angle that I will weld a tab onto and bolt to the bumper brackets.  You will see in the "above" pic that I have them vice gripped in place.  It will extend the bumper forward and give me more surface area to weld the bumper mounts to.  There are pieces of of angle under the bumper on each side that you can't see. They are temporarily bolted in place and I will weld them to the angles I will bolt to the brackets.  That will solve my "how do I mount the front bumper?" problem.

The next thing I am thinking of is either fabbing a headlamp bracket to be welded to the top of the bumper brackets, and mount the headlamps to it, of maybe mount the headlamps to the outboard bumper mounting bolt hole.  It will be solid enough, but pending a warm spell and some extra time,  I'm probably not going to tackle that until Spring.  It will allow me to eliminate the chinsy headlight brackets I made a couple of weeks ago.  I don't like the way they look and they aren't as solid as I would like.  I only tacked them in place for easy removal if I came up with a better idea.

Pic # 3 shows that it is in its Winter resting spot.  I will be working away from home until Christmas and there will be plenty of other tasks for me to do so this might be all my progress until Spring.  I will watch to see what others post and advise of any additional progress I make over the Winter. 
rob289c

rob289c

Zero progress this weekend on the project.  I did however go out the breakfast with my car club buddies Saturday AM, got a big chunk of my wife's Christmas present taken care of, got most of the Christmas lights on the house including all the ones that require the 28' extension ladder.  I went to the 174th Fighter Wing Alumni Thanksgiving Party today.  I am hoping this coming weekend I will get something done on the project.

I am re-thinking my headlight and bumper mounting ideas.  I may come up with a different setup if it is practical and can figure out a better way to mount them than the path I am currently on.  More to come, but I'm running out of time.  After this coming week I will be working 5 hours away until Christmas...

Happy Thanksgiving to all!
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dga57

Every little bit counts!  Looking good!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

I spent a decent amount of time this weekend in between other chores and errands but I didn't make a whole lot of progress.  I fabricated headlamp brackets and tack welded them in place.  I started making brackets to attach the narrowed 67 Mustang front bumper.  I'm only part way done with that and not sure if my path is correct.  Again, it's engineer and improvise as I go.  I will be tacking them in place, then the entire header panel and grill will have to be removed so I can weld the headlight bracket and bumper brackets solidly in place (I hope).  That will have to be next weekend.  The bumper brackets will be painted black like the rest of the chassis so they will blend in better and not be so noticeable,  From the pic, it looks like I may have to put a spacer under the left headlight.  Back on it next weekend...
rob289c

rob289c

Yes, every little bit gets me closer to completion.  If I was retired I could work on it every day...that day is coming soon...could be any time, up to 3 years, then I'll do something PT or contract work with my current employer.  Working out of town again this week and the next several so no weekday progress. 
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dga57

Looks like good solid progress to me!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

I didn't make a lot of progress over this past weekend.  On Saturday I spent time brainstorming how I would mount the headlights.  I got the idea that I could mount them at the outer edges of the grill like on a 67 Shelby.  To do that, I would have to remove the running lamp/turnsignal assemblies and cut out the grill where the headlights would go.  I wasn't set on this option as I liked the position of the turn signals which would have to be relocated, and there wasn't enough space behind the grill to the radiator to make the headlamps appear to be flush with the grill.  They would have protruded about 3" and look like bug eyes.  I was also going to lose the two upper grill to header panel mounting points.  Nevertheless, I went to Harbor Freight and bought a Dremel-type tool so I could perform the grill surgery without hacking it up.  I spent quite a bit of time running errands and had other things to do so I didn't jump into the project.  Instead, I slept on it and decided to try to find a better option for the headlamps.  I have another option that I will share after I do it.  For now, I can't elaborate.  I think it will look fine and hopefully be sturdy. 

I spent quite a bit of Sunday washing motorcycles and my Fastback in preparation for Winter storage.  I also began rearranging the shop so I can store everything.  At the end of the day I installed the heater hoses in the factory orientation.  I had to install a 3/4 to 5/8 adapter as the heater core pipes are 3/4 but the pipe to the water pump port is 5/8.  I also struggled to figure out where the bracket on the 5/16 tube that goes between the upper heater pipe to the intake mounts.  There was nothing "under the hood" where it would mount.  It wasn't until after looking at the stock valve cover that I discovered the mounting point.  My T-Bird valve cover doesn't have that hose mount so I will relocate it to the firewall. 

Anyway, that was pretty much it for progress.  I hope I can do more next weekend.  I would like to get the headlights in place...
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