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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dga57

Your New York weather forecast sounds just about like what we're having here in Virginia.  It started raining here about 3:00 a.m. and, while it hasn't been much more than a drizzle so far, it's supposed to keep going until about midnight tonight!  It would be lousy weather to be traipsing around a State Fairground!  I took my twin aunts out for breakfast this morning to celebrate their 92nd birthday.  Frankly, when I saw the rain this morning, I suspected they might cancel, but they didn't.  I took along a big umbrella just in case.  I wasn't too worried about myself, but I didn't think it would probably be a good thing for them to get drenched if a real downpour occurred while we were out.  I got them fed and back home without incident, so I count that as a win.  Our annual breakfast outing has been a tradition since they turned 80 back in 2010; I never dreamed we'd still be doing it twelve years later! 

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

No project progress this weekend.  I may go out very early tomorrow (Monday) AM before I have to go to the State Fair and fill and finish a couple of tiny imperfections and spread another coat of filler on the cowl section.  It won't be a lot but every little bit of progress gets me closer to the finished product.  The forecast of rain tomorrow may buy me a little garage time...as much as my wife wants to go to the Fair, she likes getting wet a lot less!  Forecast is for more rain in the AM and clearing in the PM...

As for getting my project titled and inspected, my goal is to get the title from PA for the Mustang portion.  I want to register it as a 67 Ford:  no side marker lights and no emissions.  Even if they can provide me with just the VIN, I can run with that through the State of Vermont to get a Vermont Title, then get it titled in The People's Republic of NY.  If that fails, The Pinto is titled in my name so I can register it as a 1980 Ford, but then when NY decides to enforce original equipment rules, I will have to incorporate side marker lights, and all 1980 emission controls which I plan to completely discard.  I could go down the path of a "custom" or "homemade" car but there are way more hoops to jump through and much more scrutiny.  I will prevail... 8)
rob289c

dga57

Quote from: rob289c on August 30, 2022, 06:52:00 PM
I am spending every spare minute I have on this thing...I'll be happy when I can drive it around my circle.  In the background I am trying to work with the Commonwealth of PA trying to get the title for the abandoned Mustang section that is making up the rear half of my project.  If that doesn't pan out, I have a couple of other options to get this thing registered and on the road...

I don't know how it works in Pennsylvania, but in Virginia, where there's a will, there's a way... although you may have to jump through numerous hoops to find it!  Good luck!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

I am spending every spare minute I have on this thing...I'll be happy when I can drive it around my circle.  In the background I am trying to work with the Commonwealth of PA trying to get the title for the abandoned Mustang section that is making up the rear half of my project.  If that doesn't pan out, I have a couple of other options to get this thing registered and on the road...
rob289c

dga57

Sounds like a busy weekend coming up!  One thing is certain: that project will be sitting there waiting for you whenever you have the time to sand.  Tedious as sanding is, it makes all the difference in the world in your finished product!  Keep up the good work!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Yesterday I spread the polyester filler and today I sanded.  Not sure if it made much of a difference but it sure created a lot more work!  I also started sanding/shaping the cowl section. It is rounded and irregular shaped so it is going to need a lot more massaging.  I will be working out of town again this week, then Labor Day weekend is a total loss to me as far as this project goes.  Saturday my VFW is hosting a charity cruise in and as one of the organizers I will be there all day.  Sunday is a family reunion, and Monday my wife wants me to take her to the NY State Fair.  I would rather sand Bondo and I don't even like doing that!  It looks like it will be the following weekend that I will get time on my project.  I am getting closer to being able to spray primer and paint.  I pray that the weather stays warm.  The long range forecast that we get at work suggests a warmer than normal pattern through September and into October so that bodes well for my plan.  Once November starts I can't work on projects...only daily driver maintenance and repairs.  I will keep you posted on progress as I make it.
rob289c

rob289c

Did I mention that I got my tires mounted?  After primer and black enamel on the frame, underside, rear wheel wells, cabin interior and trunk area, I will assemble the front end and bolt on the tires/wheels.  225 60 15 on 15x7 rims.
rob289c

dga57

That sounds like a plan!  I can't wait to see this thing come together!!!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

I spent the better part of the day creating the top ridge on both quarter panels, and blending the filler down toward the trunk opening.  It came out pretty good, but it caused me to re-do areas that I had already done.  I didn't get to the polyester finishing putty but will do that next weekend.  I also still have to sand the cowl area.  I have to sand the body filler on the cowl itself, the rounded portions at each end, and where I welded patches in to cover up where the hood hinges attached.  I'm sure it will be another good day of sanding.  Hopefully I can wrap up this body filler sanding mission next weekend. 
rob289c

rob289c

Perfect...thank you!  After my last body work session on Thursday I was going to say "good enough", but then I decided I wasn't happy with the body line at the top of the 1/4 panels so on Friday after I got back from car show set up I did a little Bondo build up so I can create a sharper line.  I am about to go out and sand to see f I can shape it properly.  At some point I will have to call it quits bit I want to get it as good as my limited body skills will allow.  After I get it shaped I will do the polyester putty on the major body repair areas and call it good.  I will blow off the dust, damp sponge again, wipe it down with solvent, then wipe any bare metal surfaces with DuPont Quick-Prep, then pray for a decently warm September weekend so I can spray epoxy and black enamel.  More to come...
rob289c

dga57

Quote from: rob289c on August 18, 2022, 07:13:24 PM

***Dwayne:  Can we change the Title to "Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster"?  It is no longer going to be a trike*** 

A roadster it is, my friend.  Happy to help!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

I fixed my trouble spots but found a little more to fix.  Did I mention I am sick of doing bodywork?!!  I didn't get to do the polyester putty yet.  Maybe tomorrow if I get back from pre-car show set up duty.  I did blow down, then damp sponge the body before I rolled it back in the garage.  I will get it dusty again after applying and sanding the polyester.  There will still be some body imperfections, but at this point I will live with them.  This was never meant to be a show car and there were a lot of compromised body panels that I had to salvage and make presentable.  At least the quarters and tail light panel are new and will look decent!  I did fit the rear valance panel to the body in an unconventional way that is actually better than the factory method.  I am able to jury-rig and improvise to my heart's content since I am not building a concourse-correct car.  If the stars align, I may be able to spray epoxy the weekend of 8/27-28.  If I do, I will send pics. 

***Dwayne:  Can we change the Title to "Pinto Powered Mustang Roadster"?  It is no longer going to be a trike*** 
rob289c

rob289c

I thought I would have ben further along by now but I continue to mix, spread and sand body filler as often as my busy life allows.  I have about 6 small trouble areas that I will try to rectify tomorrow.  Then I will give the areas I did bodywork a coat of polyester putty to fill sanding scratches and other small imperfections.  If all goes well, that may happen tomorrow or at worst on Friday.  The car club I am a member of is hosting a car show on Saturday so I will spend part of Friday helping to set up the show field and do other last minute details and Saturday I will be at the show all day.  On Sunday if all bodywork is complete, I will DA the rest of the body and scuff the frame, then blow down and clean all surfaces in preparation for primer and paint.  I will be working out of town for the next two weeks starting 8/22 but will be home for the in-between weekend.  I hope to epoxy prime the entire body and chassis, including the under side.  I will them paint the underside, frame, and interior shell, including the interior of the trunk area with black enamel.  After that, if I get a warm September weekend I will paint the body.  If not, I will paint the body next Spring.  In the meantime, I will remove engine accessories, sand, sandblast, clean, degrease, prime, paint.  I will clean and degrease the exterior engine, paint the block and oil pan Ford Blue, keep the head natural, remove any unnecessary emission controls and vacuum hoses, re-gasket any external mating surfaces, install the header, then put the fresh-looking 2.3 back in the chassis.  Then I can assemble the front suspension.  By that time it will be time to push it into the corner for the Winter and resume in the Spring.  I will keep you posted as I make progress. 
rob289c

dga57

Progress can be painstakingly slow if done properly, but it is STILL progress!  Keep up the good work!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Between Saturday morning and Sunday afternoon I was able to make progress.  Nothing that is readily apparent so pics aren't included, but lots of small improvements.  I am taking this coming Thursday and Friday off from work so I am hoping that I can wrap up the body repair phase or get close to completion by the end of this coming weekend.  I have other commitments that are going to eat into my sanding time but I should be pretty much done and ready to shoot epoxy.  I may wait till Saturday August 13 as I took that next week off so I should have plenty of time to prep and spray.  The car club I belong to is hosting a show on Saturday, 8/20 so Friday, 8/19 we will be setting up and wiil be working the show all day Saturday.  I will continue to post progress as I make it...
rob289c

dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

The weekend is here...I will get to work on it tomorrow AM until about noon at which point I will have to stop and get ready for a one-year-old's birthday party (hooray).  Sunday I will have until about 2:30 to play with it so I hope between those two sessions I can get a lot done and move me closer to primer and paint.  I'll post an update at some point this weekend...
rob289c

dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Thank you...I have quite a bit to go.  I had to weld the roof and the leading edge of the roof on as well as the quarter panels so I have a lot of blending in to do.  I had to form the body lines at the trailing edge of the roof at the top of the quarter panels.  I am filling in spot weld indents and smoothing out the rear window opening.  A lot of difficult to access areas.  I have to keep reminding myself that the intent was never to make a perfect show car out of it, rather just save two pieces of junk that should have been scrapped long ago!  During the week I won't be able to work on it and I will lose more than half my upcoming Saturday to other commitments, but should be able to spend a lot of time on Sunday.  I can't wait to get this part done so I can get on to more fun parts of the project.  On Friday I ordered my wheel adapters...the y are already here!  Shipped from CA to NY over a weekend, standard bulk USPS. I will continue to post progress until I have to roll it into the corner this Fall. :o
rob289c

dga57

It looks like your bodywork is coming along well!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

Engine and tranny out of frame and separated.  Just getting the engine mounted to the stand was a project unto itself.  I had to make my own brackets.  The ones that came with the stand worked fine for my 289, but no the 2300.
rob289c

rob289c

Here are four pics of my bodywork to date.  I'm no expert but so far, so good.  I did some this AM, but it started to sprinkle so I pushed it back inside and did some other chores.  I am going to go back out to do more spreading and sanding.  I'll be glad when this phase is complete.  More rain is coming so I better get back out there.  I do it outside to keep the dust out of my shop.  If I can keep on the bodywork, I have the week of 8/15 off so my target would be to spray the underside, frame and body with another coat of epoxy then, and if time the frame, underside and interior black.  I can do the exterior body later or next year if I run out of time.  Once the frame is painted I can assemble the front suspension, do all the brakes, figure out my steering and get the engine back in. 
rob289c

dga57

Quote from: rob289c on July 23, 2022, 08:36:54 PM
I will send progress pictures tomorrow...

Welcome back!  Looking forward to your pictures.  Surely I'm not the only person here who has been patiently waiting to see when you were going to resume work on your project. 

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rob289c

I'm back!!!  I started back on my project a few weeks ago.  I did a little frame repair/stiffening and now I am into the bodywork faze.  I'm not that good at it so I spend a lot of time applying and sanding body filler.  I will take and post some pics tomorrow.  I have the Mustang rear seat frames and seat covers at the upholstery shop; he said I will have it back in September.  I ordered wheel adapters to get me from the Mustang II front end kit's 5x4 1/2 lug pattern to the same as the Mustang rear 4x4 1/2 lug pattern so I can use the same 4-lug rims at all four corners.  The adapters also widen the front track as the Pinto/Mustang II is narrower than the Mustang rear so it will be more stable.  I relocated the Mustang parking brake cable brackets from the frame rails to behind the rear seat so now the transplanted Pinto parking brake is functional.  I scraped, wire wheeled, then used Simple Green and a small wire brush on the underside so it is now clean and  I can epoxy and paint.  I am trying to get all the frame and bodywork done so I can spray epoxy and paint, then I can start assembling the vehicle.  I have the engine out and mounted on the engine stand.  My plan is to remove accessories, clean, sand, prime, paint.  I don't plan to do any internal engine work.  I will paint the block and oil pan Ford Blue, leave the head natural, remove unnecessary emission controls, and reinstall back in the frame.  I have a mid-80's T-bird valve cover, a chrome air cleaner, and a ceramic coated header to "dress things up".  There will be no hood so the engine will always be on display.  I need to fabricate tranny mount brackets to lower the tranny a little.  The Pinto tranny position is higher than the Mustang so the 23 1/4" driveshaft is too close to the Mustang driveshaft tunnel.  This project has been interesting and I need to get it done!  I want to retire when the economy straightens out and this is my last automotive project.  I have my '67 Mustang Fastback, my Harley, and this Pinto/Mustang buggy (no longer a trike) will be the extent of my toys.  If I have any issues getting it titled, it will become my golf cart to buzz around the neighborhood!  I will send progress pictures tomorrow...
rob289c

rob289c

This past Wednesday, on our last day of relatively warm weather, I sprayed the engine side of the firewall and underside of the trans hump gloss black.  I used tractor enamel with hardener so it should be fairly durable.  I let it cure until yesterday (Saturday) and reinstalled it temporarily back onto the chassis.  Today I am going to temporarily mount the dash and start figuring out how I am going to shorten the steering shaft to give me more access to the cockpit without moving the steering wheel too far forward.  I think I am going to eliminate the broken rag joint and use a 3/4-36 spline x 3/4 DD U-joint directly on the splined end of the steering rack and eliminate the factory u-joint and the overall 8" of round shaft that goes to the rag joint/rack end of the steering shaft.  I may have to use a short section of 3/4 DD shaft stock and a coupler to get the overall length correct to allow cockpit access and put the steering wheel in a comfortable position.  As I've said before, this is an "engineer it as you go" project!  I had previously cut the parking brake mount assy out of the Pinto and welded it into the driveshaft tunnel of the Mustang so it is between the seats like a Pinto vs under the dash on a 67 Mustang.  I installed the parking brake lever and cut the vinyl out of the old seat cover and will have the upholstery shop modify the new seat cover to make a neat access hole for the lever.  I did a hack job of cutting the section out of the old, but the upholstery shop will do a much nicer, neater job with the new.  I'm just trying to mock things up at this point.   Today I am also going to install the trans mount bolts so the tranny isn't hanging, requiring a jack stand or blocks of wood under the tranny while in Winter storage.  It is just about ready to push into the corner for Winter hibernation.  Dan, you are welcome to stop by any time you are in the Rochester area.  I look forward to meeting you!
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Dtmix

Thanks for sharing your updates and pictures! I will have to swing by your place to see it the next time I am in Rochester!

Happy Motoring!
Dan
Happy Motoring!
Dan

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Yesterday I finished patching and stitch-welding what was left of the firewall.  It looks like Frankenstein but welding patches inside and out stiffened it nicely.  It was corroded and flimsy.  It will be covered by diamond plate so it won't be seen.  Today I sprayed two coats of epoxy primer and it is now curing.  While I had primer mixed, I shot the leading edge of the roof that I welded on earlier this Spring.  One more thing I may do before putting it away is to shorten the steering shaft to move the steering wheel a little more forward.  That will complete the need for sectioning the dash and cowl to give me more room to enter the cockpit.  I am just about done for the season, so I will probably power wash the whole unit and put it away until Spring.  I hope to have more time to spend on it next year...
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I've been off the grid for a while, mainly because I didn't make much progress on my project over the Summer.  I have done a few things recently.  When I put the dash in place I realized I couldn't get into the "cockpit".  I decided I would have to section the cowl and dash to move everything forward.  I also (mistakenly) decided to narrow the dash.  I cut about 3" off each end, then welded it back together.  I will be relocating the headlight switch to the former windshield wiper switch position and I filled in the spots where the vents were.  After sectioning the cowl, I have plenty of access so I didn't need to narrow the dash after all.  Too late, and I will make it work.  It cost me the better part of an afternoon.  There is a 79 in a nearby junkyard that I may consider salvaging but I probably won't.  The cowl sectioning consisted of cutting out the vent portion and welding it back together.  You'll see from the pics that it is really narrow and provides the room I needed to get in and out of the cockpit.  I am going to remove the cowl/firewall from the chassis and weld up what was left of the rotted floor.  The trans hump will eventually get covered with diamond plate and will be secured to the frame.  I am going to fabricate some radiator support to firewall rods like a Model A to further stiffen things up.  I wish I had accomplished more over the Summer but had a lot of other priorities.  I have a few weeks before it gets rolled into its Winter resting spot so I will post any further progress.  Thank you for reading...
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rob289c

I haven't made much progress on my progress...I have been caught up in a multitude of other tasks.  The two attached pics show recent work.  I finally welded the leading edge of the roof on and ground the weld down.  I have a little more to go, then I can clean, sand, spray more epoxy, then apply body filler to complete the roof work.  The other pic is a side view to show you how it is coming along.  Note the 23 1/4" driveshaft on the floor.  I hope to get more done this weekend and l a lot more done before I have to stop work in November.  I have too many irons in the fire...I will be happy to retire in the next few years!
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rob289c

Here are some pics from today's work.  I found a spot on the leading edge were the inside width is 48" and the same dimension on the roof in a sport where I could shorten it.  I cut the leading edge off the front portion of the leftover Mustang roof and about a foot off the roof as it was.  I then welded the support piece in place and welded the leading edge on.  The entire roof is now shorter making it easier to get in and out, and the leading edge I still have more welding to do but for now it is tacked on well.  After that it will be grinding, then epoxy primer, body filler on all roof weld joints and block sanding.  The driveshaft should be done this week.  I look forward to getting it back so I can get it and other associated parts fit properly in the chassis.  I have a long way to go...
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