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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dirt track demon

Quote from: crazyhorse on August 04, 2005, 11:40:56 AM
I work 3-11pm & I've been stopped both going in & leaving work. That leaves out just the "witching hour" theory. The biggest excuse for pulling me over is "no seatbelt" even though I DO wear it, religiously.

  Glow in the dark seatbelts ?
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Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

ilvmy76

        you guys are killing me!!
i live outside of chicago, i am here to tell you, they are pulling all kinds of cars over, all in the hopes that they'll catch the one of many drivers that don't seem to understand the drinking laws out here....
(mind you, they say .08's the limit, but really illinois is no tolerance, if you travel here don't drink and drive, not even a little bit, they'll arrest and tow for, AND FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T BLOW i mean it!!)      and i doesn't matter what you are driving, they are just fishing.

i think the other part is, they probably really do just want to check it out!!
pinto's are tremendously rare, and super cool, and there really aren't alot out there....
if i could stop people who had cars i wanted to look over, i probably would too, but it's against the rules to have the pretty lights, that make everyone pull over...

that said, i think you all are very lucky, i am here to tell you, i have not seen another pinto on my road EVER!!  if it wasn't for you guys, i'd swear i'm the only one that's still got one running....

so try not to take it too personally, you know that old saying
         "ignore the things you can't change"
but i'm pretty passive, for the most part, so you might not want to listen to me.  :angel:


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bigh4th

I've had more cops follow me in my runabout than any other vehicle i've ever had.  I got pulled by a Va. state trooper because he "didn't see my inspection sticker cause it blended in with the dash".  Bright yellow sticker infront of a black dashboard.  Yeah. 

I've also had county police follow me to the county line and turn around.  and ALL of this is durring the 12-6 p.m. range.

So, its happened to me. 

-Harry

Pintony

Hey DTD,
You are still younger!!!
From Pintony

dirt track demon

I think there is something to it.  I have been pulled over when i drove pintos on the street for dumb shizod.  one cop flat out told me he pulled me over because my car was a P.O.S. when they were new, and he couldn't imagine that mine was any better being 20 some years old.  If i would have had car ins at the time, There probably would have been a confrontation, but he never asked for the ins card, so I just had to stand there and not say a word.  I did ask what the legal reason for being pulled over was, and he said it was because there was smoke coming from my exhaust,  my friend just looked at him like he was a moron, and said " duh, where the hell is supposed to come out at?"  That resulted in a citation for a faulty exhaust, about $125 worth.  And the ignorant jerk, told me not to ever drive it thru his town again.  We made it a point once the insurance was paid up again to spend a whole weekend driving around "his town"  I changed 2 sets of bald tires that weekend.     aaaah, but i was younger then......
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Fomoco's biggest achievement:
The PINTO!!

Fomoco's biggest mistake:
Not offering a V-8 Pinto!!!!!!!

crazyhorse

I just look at them like they're stupid Pintony. Then call thier boss afterward.

Also here in TN if you see a cop speeding w/out his blue lights on & you get a car #, if you call the local constable or state police dept, they WILL give the officer a ticket
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Pintony

Hey Paul,
Maybe you should ask the cop when was the last time he had his eyes checked.
From Pintony

crazyhorse

I work 3-11pm & I've been stopped both going in & leaving work. That leaves out just the "witching hour" theory. The biggest excuse for pulling me over is "no seatbelt" even though I DO wear it, religiously.
How to tell when a redneck's time is up: He combines these two sentences... Hey man, hold my beer. Hey y'all watch this!
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'95 Olds Gutless "POS"
'97 Subaru Legacy wagon "Kat"

madddoggj

I too had been the cictim of illegitimate pullovers in my pinto. was pulled over in it 4 times, and only once was there an actual reason.  once the cop pulled me over just to ask what kind of car i was driving
Josh

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renton481

Are there any particular hours this is happening Crazyhorse?  If it's during the hours the bars let out, or nearby, maybe they're just looking for drunks, and pulling you over by chance. What are the reasons they give for pulling you over?

From what you're telling, maybe it's they think a dude with an older car has a higher chance of no insurance.  Pintos are still considered 'junk' cars in some places, although I think they are slowly reaching "collector" or "cool old car" status.

I've been pulled over before for the license plate light being out.  it was the 'witching hour' and the police were looking for DUIs.  I don't know what you guys mean by unshiney, but mine has old paint.

High_Horse

Picture this......Your driving along and see the flashing lights up ahead. Well the cops have stopped someone. As you pass you see that the car is a Pinto. Duh!!!!! Our tax dollars at work. I'd bet he would stop his grandmother.
Arn't Pintos on the endangered species list? Should they not pull traffic over so we may pass comfortably. I mean it's not like we are a 99 Hondei or somthing that parts grow on trees.
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sagesunrise

crazyhorse,
Maybe once every "boy in blue" has pulled you over, maybe they will leave you alone? I hear ya. Sounds like they are after something that they will never find.
Keep smiling!  :D
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

crazyhorse

Well I tend to obey the laws (except the speed tax ones) I wear my seatbelt 'cause it's a good idea, I keep my cell calls to an absolute minimum time (as in Hi i'm driving, I'll call ya back when I get there) I use my signals, & common sense. The Boys in Blue are watching me thinking that they'll get them a DUI stop eventually. Now mind you I've got a DUI on my record from 22years ago (& I was a juvenille)but I do NOT do that anymore. I've been pulled over for anything from a broken headlight to "I'm sorry I didn't see the black pad with orange flames on your seatbelt" "you crossed the centerline" is another popular excuse.
I love my Pinto even if the local Fuzz wants to "profile" it. However, the cops are about to get on my nerves, I'm about to take action to stop this. I live WAY out in the stix, so maybe it's just that the locals don't know what "profiling" is.  I guess I'll have to introduce them to the concept.
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'74 Runabout, stock 2300,auto  RIP Darlin.
'95 Olds Gutless "POS"
'97 Subaru Legacy wagon "Kat"

sagesunrise

I had an officer come into my work and he was teasing when he said "Is that your stolen pinto out there?". He wanted to tell me how cool it looked (well, it is shiney now) and he loved the pinto. I make sure and wave at officers when I pass them by. I have been pulled over several times (when the pinto was unshiney) in the pinto when I was younger and liked to speed and had no muffler-they were always legitimate pull overs. I have not been pulled over in the "new" Martha yet, but I drive a lot different now too ever since I had my scare when I was rear-ended.
Tiffany Morrison
'71 Pinto Sedan 2.0, '51 Willys CJ3A, '75 Ford F250, '70 Ford Maverick, '68 GMC Value Van (aka the Hippie Van), and a 1947 Flxible Clipper RV conversion Bus, 1953 Ford Jubilee Tractor, 1969 VW Baja Bug

Pintony

Hey Paul,
I get the same thing. My hair is past my shoulders now. Funny how if I put my hair under my hat I never get the shiny bubble gum machine behind me. ;D
It really P-s those guys off when I invite them to search my Econoline before they ask.
I have a 1969 econoline that says Acapulco Gold. I got stopped one time backing out of my own driveway!.
The experts call that "PROFILEING" which is NOT Legal.
From Pintony


crazyhorse

ok so it's unanimous... I make MYSELF look like a drunk in my Pinto & it should be ashamed of me!
LMAO y'all kill me!
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'74 Runabout, stock 2300,auto  RIP Darlin.
'95 Olds Gutless "POS"
'97 Subaru Legacy wagon "Kat"

Scott Hamilton

Naww,

I agree with Tony, it's Paul's hair....

HA!
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wagonmaster

I had been driving Pintos for the last several years until the recent demise of my '78 wagon and I only got stopped once. My license plate light was burned out!!  :P
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Pintony


pintoman

Hey Crazyhorse,in the ten years that i have owned my Rallye i have never been pulled over.But on several occasions that i have been broken down along the freeways they have stopped and checked me out.No tickets though.Lucky i guess for now.
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High_Horse

I disagree. I have been stopped in my Pinto's allot over the years. But that is all I have been driving over the years. I will suggest that Pinto's can catch the eye but not because they might be trash haulers. They are Pinto's and you just don't see them around. Cop's have eye's too.
Started with a Bobcat wagon. Then a Cruising wagon. Now a Chocolate brown 77 wagon. I will enjoy this car for a long time. I'm in. High_Horse

crazyhorse

Is it just me, or are we as Pinto owners being "profiled" by police because of an unusual choice in cars? In the 5 years of ownership, I've been pulled over 7 times. Of those I've only received one ticket.(for not having current proof of insurance) I feel that the Police are usung the fact that we're driving what is considered  a "cheap" or "junk" car as an excuse to pull us over. I DO speed, but we all know that our cars as built, won't go too much over the limits. (my car will go about 95mph) I have yet to be stopped for speeding in my car, so what's the trouble with it? Do I look like a drunk in it?...Do I look like I wouldn't have current liscence registration ETC? The local officials here call what I'm getting "courtesy stops" I call them Profiling. No lawyer in the county will listen to me. Maybe if I can prove that it's not just me I can get some results.
How to tell when a redneck's time is up: He combines these two sentences... Hey man, hold my beer. Hey y'all watch this!
'74 Runabout, stock 2300,auto  RIP Darlin.
'95 Olds Gutless "POS"
'97 Subaru Legacy wagon "Kat"