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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

(SOLVED)Vacuum Advance Induced Detonation.

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ixplod

Quote from: Glitch666 on September 06, 2015, 10:59:20 PM
The gas was fresh regular That I put in last night after the tank was drained before first start up.

Run a fuel line into a can of fresh 92 octane and see if it makes a difference? Maybe the head was shaved a lot. That would have been something to check while the engine was apart.

My parents' '80 Mustang (bought new in late '79) developed a similar issue at about 75k, making a pinging sound whenever accelerating (even lightly). We tore the engine down in and found absolutely nothing unusual. Dingle balled the cylinders and put it back together with new rings and bearings. They traded it off at 98k, so I never found out the cause nor a solution.
1980 Sedan - 2.3, 4-speed

76hotrodpinto

Another trick to try. Hook the vac line to a brake bleeder pump, and mess around with different levels of vacuum, see if you can see a trend or discover something. Be sure to cap manifold fitting. Not very scientific, but it gives you control over the vacuums full range.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Glitch666

The gas was fresh regular That I put in last night after the tank was drained before first start up. This engine had this same issue before I tore it down. I also installed a different distributor during the go through, also the different cam and new lifters. Im definitely gonna do a compression test next weekend.

76hotrodpinto

I'd start with a compression test and a vacuum test. Maybe even stuff the fuel supply line in to a can of fresh gas, and see if your fuel is wonky.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Glitch666

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on September 06, 2015, 09:38:11 PM
Ok, your mistake was to back your timing down, set your timing where you had it and hook the vacuum to manifold, it will idle high because of advance at idle so just turn your idle down, you'll see how much smoother it runs..
I think you missed my point, Its not that I cant get it to run smooth. Its that it pings no matter what even if the vacuum advance is disconnected and plugged. Also I know how vacuum advance works. Ported vs manifold has been a debate for many years. It advances completely the same except at idle. I don't have an issue at idle so increasing my timing there does no good. They both will advance the same at above idle and full throttle. Again so no matter what, if I give it gas and it pings above idle it will do it regardless if I use ported or manifold.
Also my goal was to retard my timing back to eliminate my detonation issue but keep the base timing up for a smooth idle. But I couldn't get it right, ran like crap no matter what.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dennisofaz on September 06, 2015, 08:39:05 PMIn my 74 with a 2.3 the harmonic damper outer ring shifted and i cannot time it with a light at all.
Dennis
You can bring it up to TDC and remark the damper, but you really need to replace it if it moved before the ring flies off..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

74 PintoWagon

Ok, your mistake was to back your timing down, set your timing where you had it and hook the vacuum to manifold, it will idle high because of advance at idle so just turn your idle down, you'll see how much smoother it runs..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Glitch666

There's no smog stuff left on the car. The only vac line that's hooked up is the advance can. It's hooked to the ported spark vacuum by the mixture screw. I did try hooking it to manifold vacuum and backing the timing back and it ran worse, causing rough idle and backfires. I just finished test driving without the advance hooked up but it pings under acceleration. Runs like a raped ape though... Manifold and ported vacuum act exactly the same except at idle. It would really only be hooked up to manifold vacuum if I had a big cam that needes alot of base timing to idle correctly. I'm gonna try some high octane fuel and see it helps.

dennisofaz

Hi, I would try whay Art said and hook the dist. to manifold vacuum.  In my 74 with a 2.3 the harmonic damper outer ring shifted and i cannot time it with a light at all.


Dennis

74 PintoWagon

Vacuum advance should be connected to manifold vacuum, not ported vacuum that's a smog thing..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

ixplod

Where is the vacuum advance hooked up? The best place on a Pinto is the vac tree on the intake (rear driver's side). If the vac advance is hooked to venturi vac the advance will increase with throttle opening. With manifold vacuum, it SHOULD lose advance when the throttle is cracked open.

What does the timing look like with the vac advance hooked up? Screw the "rules" and see what happens to the advance if you pull the line while it's running. Pull the line and put your thumb over it. The idle SHOULD get rougher. The high manifold vacuum adds more timing while at idle and the engine has little or no load.

Personally, I've never seen this problem - even with 26 degrees initial advance on a 302 Ford. Started hard, but pulled like a beast....until it started pinging. Backing the timing back down to 16 allowed it to work all around.....just without the oomph on the bottom end.

There has to be a solution to this!

1980 Sedan - 2.3, 4-speed

C. M. Wolf

I had to deal with something very similar to this on my 70 Chevy-built 350cui engine. I changed the intake over to a 0-50/Performer-400 Edelbrock intake.. this(& along with the different carb, Crane-valve-train, special-ground cam, pistons, ported & polished heads, HD-50 oil-pump, etc), changed the vacuum ratios on the engine which caused mistiming on the distributor's vacuum advance. it took a sharp fellow I knew some 'shiny' math to finally get it all right. I finally had him build me a correct vacuum advance diaphragm unit that worked perfect.

..and after having to re-jet the new carb.. lol

Michael


Glitch666

Well finally completed going through the motor on my 76. Everything is up to snuff and painted, looking good. Put in a ranger roller cam with new lifters and attached the new(only 800 mile transmission). Got it in the car today and fired up and timed. Runs smooth at 10 degrees. Except giving it any throttle results in spark knock (not driving, idle in the drive way). Disconnecting the vacuum advance and it goes away and runs perfect. Backing the timing down until it runs like crap still results in detonation with the vacuum advanced hooked up. I know the head was previously done shortly before I acquired the car. Don't know if it was maybe shaved. It had it before the engine was pulled, thought it was the lifters/cam... .. Turned out to be detonation....

UPDATE: Turns out number 1 had a broken compression ring and a cracked skirt that fell of when I pulled the piston. Honed and replaced with the engine still in the car and she runs fantastic.  Was lucky and caught it in time. Was able to hone out the damage.