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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

1978 Pinto AC Compressor Cycle?

Started by M Jennings, July 16, 2015, 02:11:31 PM

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pinto_one

have to say the oil on the pinto compressors (York style) do not circulate though the whole system, but you are right about the compressor reed valves needing oil, but its done all inside the compressor , they are chambers in the inlet and outlet side built into the top of the compressor block, they act like oil separators , if you remove the head you will see both of them . you also will see a tiny hole in each , oil is pulled in tiny amounts on the inlet side chamber and after it runs though the valves it collets in the outlet side chamber , the hole there drains into the front clutch side bearing between the shaft seal, lubes the bearing also ,  does a good job unless you put the wrong head on a different compressor block, those you will have valve problems , these were also used in aircraft , they would never go bad , only the lines or hoses would pop or split from age , I always blow the system out with dry nitogen when I have it, the newer one as in your tempo does circulate the oil , and if you replace anything like the condenser you have to add oil for that part , they all hold a certain amount of oil to work when running , a pinto does not , you only have to check the oil level in the compressor , if you cut open a pinto dryer you will most likely not find any oil in it, the new cars you will find a few ounces , and I also like AMC49 hate the swivel o-ring  snap connectors , they are responsable for most if not all a/c compressors to go bad , low Freon means less lube for the compressor , more oil leaks out , way less lube === dead compressor and a system full of metal,  :-\
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amc49

Uh, the oil circulates with the refrigerant on the earlier type compressors too, no way are they oil tight and the service manuals clearly say that discharging refrigerant too fast pulls oil out of compressor with it to lose track of where you are amount wise. If you use PAG oil with the R134 you MUST get every last bit of the older mineral oil out, it can react with it to bubblegum up like jello and tear up the compressor. The official industry conversion number says the mineral oil must end up being 2% or less.  If you use ester oil then you do not have to get 100% of the old oil out. The oil type can make you or break you there. There is no such thing as a 'dry' system, every a/c system I've ever worked on even back in the '60s required oil running mixed with the refrigerant. Not as much as the later ones or these with compressor turned on its' side but some oil is always in the freon, it lubes the reed valves to not overheat, the hottest parts of the compressor.

Dryer changes if left open to air 24 hrs. You CAN get by without changing but you must do a super vacuum job and a refrigerant sweep will help as well. Any o-rings are different material too but they'll go for a good while before failing. I vacuum my own stuff down using a simple 110 volt compressor out of a 5K BTU home a/c window unit. Maybe $10 worth of fittings on it to make it work.

R134 will not cool quite as well as R12 with R12 equipment used, you can make it better at idle with additional condenser cooling like an add on electric fan, the OEM generally doubles up the finning on R134 condensers to make up for  the refrigerant difference. R12 highside of say 200psi will need to be around 300 psi with R134 to get the same amount of cool, that may show up problems with older hoses. R134 systems have high pressure switches that cut out around 450 psi, a good chunk higher than R12 since the normal running pressures are higher.

A good strong blower inside car helps a conversion as well, but an act of Congress getting one of those, the available ones you get anywhere OTC are nowhere near as powerful as they could be, the industry does not care either. I've long said that someone could step in there and create a killer market selling 'high-performance' blowers, people never grasp how much a high output there can increase the cooling of cars. You can freeze the evaporator solid and if the blower does not move max air the output will still s-u-c-k.

I converted cars there for a bit and they worked very well. My Tempos were converted 20 years ago and they still cool fine now. I hate modern swivel o-ring sealed systems though, they tend to leak down faster than the positive metal-to-metal connections the older cars had. Again, all they care about there is installing the a/c lines without using a tool on the assembly line at all. All done by hand only.

pinto_one

The conversion can be done very easy on a pinto, one it is a dry system, only the refrigerant circulated in it, newer cars , oil and the refrigerant is both circulated together to lube the compressor, so if they say you have to flush the system run don't walk , it does not ,   the small kit you can buy has the two new fittings to screw on the old ones, ( take different charging fittings so you can not mix up the other refrigerants) next is the dryer , found that they say change it when you go to the 134A but I used the old one , only if they were not open to the air for years or days on end , the compressor oil is changed to the newer oil , just dump into a container and measure and refill with the same amount, then the only thing you have to do is pull a vacuum and charge the system, did my 80 pinto wagon ten years ago and the 76 eight years ago ,
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JoeBob

Thank you. I am sure I won't get off so cheep
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M Jennings

I found a local guy who advised me to buy a new drier for the system since it had been open for over 20 years. The drier was $25 and he charged me $125 to convert and charge the system.

JoeBob

If I can be nosey, what does the conversion cost?
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pinto_one

The vale is under the hood , right around the starter solonid , the hose is around 1/4 inch , it goes to the vacuum can , open the passenger door , you will see the line from the valve , trace it out from there ,



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boughtabobcat

Quote from: pinto_one on July 18, 2015, 09:41:44 AM
Your vacuum check valve may be bad or have a vacuum leak , the fresh air duct along with the windshield defrost duct may be open/closing at that time when you hit the ramp , engine manifold vacuum is low at that time ,   Some leaks also happen at the vacuum can (in the fender in front of passenger door) the bottom may have rusted a hole in it , happen ot mine ,

Pinto one, would the vacuum check valve be located under the dash, or behind the glovebox? What should I look for?

pinto_one

Your vacuum check valve may be bad or have a vacuum leak , the fresh air duct along with the windshield defrost duct may be open/closing at that time when you hit the ramp , engine manifold vacuum is low at that time ,   Some leaks also happen at the vacuum can (in the fender in front of passenger door) the bottom may have rusted a hole in it , happen ot mine , 

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boughtabobcat

I've noticed on mine, that after the conversion and recharge, that on acceleration, say onto a highway on ramp, the blower motor seems to weaken in output - is this a possible vacuum issue, the blower motor itself, or just normal?

amc49

FYI, the cooling systems and a/c have become so closely entwined now that I have put in LEDs for low and high rad fans and a/c clutch cycling times in all my Ford cars to quickly determine the working of things. I used to have a/c clutch cycling lights back in the old cars in the '70s to be able to tell how often the clutches were working back then too. Valuable maintenance tool...........

amc49

The rattling is because compressor is probably right on the edge of self destruction.

ALL compressors must at some time or another cycle off or they blow up.......literally. They will be at extreme ultimate a/c production (you will LOVE it!) just before they frazzle, you may well get ice crystals coming out of the ducts just before they blow.

The method used to control the on/off can vary but wire one up to stay on 100%? I've done it back when I was young and stupid on a MII and you could not count the parts of compressor when it happened. Some one told me I could do it and the result. After that I picked up a book to find out no, not even.

The dealer install will use a very similar or exact same compressor as the OEM and the same rule applies to both. The control function over it allows one version to seem like it never goes off but it does in some fashion I assure you. One is expansion valve and the other the complicated OEM thing, I forget the exact name of the system.

If they have charged to proper R134 pressures then the compressor should shut off more and faster since R134 uses much higher pressures than R12 ever did. Assuming your pressure controls were not changed there. At temps like now (here in Texas 95F+) R12 about 210 psi highside and R134 300-325 highside.

The systems even now seem to stay on and may indeed do so around idle but they definitely go on/off at highway speeds. The service manuals on these Pintos will clearly detail when and how often they should cycle off, it depends on several different things. The older twin popper compressor like the Pinto uses I look for proper pressures both low and high, that pretty much gets the clutch cycling on/off right at idle, maybe 30-60 seconds (expansion valve type) on before going off. The pressures are more important to hit.

Constant leak systems like orifice type will stay on much more at idle and variable leak ones like expansion valve cut on/off more but BOTH must eventually cut on/off at say highway speeds.  Why you rev to 2500 for an extended bit after charging to make sure they are properly going off.

An older compressor pushed to the higher pressures needed by R134 may well rattle anyway.............

pinto_one

Check the idler pulleys , they sometimes make a bunch of racket when the bearings are going bad , happens when they sit for sometime and the Greese drys out, some had an idler at the bottom to keep the belt from whipping around , that also makes a load noise
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M Jennings

Thanks. Mine is a factory setup so it doesn't cycle. I just had the system converted to R134 and charged today. Unfortunately in about 25 miles of nice air conditioned comfort it sounds like either the compressor or clutch is ready to come apart.

pinto_one

It runs all the time , but only if you have factory air , if it is a dealer add on it will cycle on and off ,   
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M Jennings

Does anyone know if the AC compressor on a 1978 Pinto cycles on and off? I just got my system charged after 27 years and the compressor clutch is on all of the time as long as the control is set to AC. It's a 2.8 engine if that matters.