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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dianne

Visit pawn shops and chances are you'll find a decent one cheap!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dga57

Dremel tools are great, but they aren't really heavy-duty enough for body fender repair.  You'd be way ahead to invest in even the cheapest grinder you can find. 


Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Clydesdale80

All the high spots have to be either ground down or tapped in. You would be surprised how much a gentle but properly placed tap with a hammer can lower a high spot.  Low spots can be filled, but high spots will distort the shape of your repair and lead to endless headaches trying to make it flat.  60 grit paper is great for rough shaping on filler followed by 120 or so for getting things flat and then 220 to make it smooth.  If you don't have long sanding blocks of various shapes, I recommend getting something like this( http://dura-block.com/sanding-blocks/ )  Having a semi-flexible block that extends past the damaged area on both sides helps significantly in reforming the original shape and can help you visualize what is high and what is low. don't forget to sand in an x-pattern and wah lah crisp clean panel  8)
Bought a 1978 hatchback to be my first car.

ToniJ1960

 Its going pretty well so far it was easier to pull out than I thought it was going to be.

But the holes from the dent puller are dimpled out I tried to grind them down but my dremel  wont do much on it. So I went ahead and put some filler on it and started sanding a little with 60 grit sandpaper.

Now a see a spot where one shiny metal piece of a screw dimple is showing through,even though I didnt sand much. And I can see a few small low spots in the filler. Near the center. Should I put my filler on it and keep sanding or should I use something else like a glaze?

Is 60 grit still too fine to start with? I didnt get a body fille cant find a cheap one yet. This poly filler dries so fast. Can you sand it with a coarse grit sandpaper before it dries real hard?

dga57

Quote from: ToniJ1960 on March 11, 2015, 10:14:09 AM
With a rear quarter panel wouldnt it have to be cut out and a new piece welded back?

It would, but it will produce a much more satisfactory repair in the end; especially if the dent is large. 

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

ToniJ1960

 With a rear quarter panel wouldnt it have to be cut out and a new piece welded back?

dga57

Quote from: ToniJ1960 on March 09, 2015, 11:55:49 PM
  Do you start in the middle or at the edges?

You need to assess how the dent was created and then reverse the process.  In most cases, this means you'll work inward from the outer edges of the dent.  Depending on the damage, especially to the quarter panel, you may be ahead to replace panels rather than pull dents if you want a professional-looking repair.  Most large dents stretch the sheet metal and once that happens, repairs are difficult.

Dwayne :)

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dianne

Quote from: ToniJ1960 on March 09, 2015, 11:55:49 PM
I have one it isnt a real heavy duty one though. I know this steel is hard too. Do you start in the middle or at the edges?

That depends on the dent Toni. Post a picture of the dent. I would invest some of that money into a 10 pound puller to pull the dents. I picked one up on ebay that works pretty good.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slide-Hammer-Dent-Puller-10-13pc-Set-Auto-Body-Dent-Repair-Bearing-Axel-Remover-/171029086836?hash=item27d220c274&item=171029086836&pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&vxp=mtr

I have been using it and it slaps pretty good.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

ToniJ1960

 I have one it isnt a real heavy duty one though. I know this steel is hard too. Do you start in the middle or at the edges?

dianne

Quote from: ToniJ1960 on March 09, 2015, 07:41:38 PM
Now I need to learn how to pull dents :)

Easy peezee. Go to YouTube and you'll learn. I learned bodywork from it, and the guy painting my car (if it ever gets done LOL) couldn't tell I did it :D There were two spots I missed though. You can pickup a dent puller reasonably also!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

ToniJ1960

 Now I need to learn how to pull dents :)

dianne

That's an outcome I didn't expect! Good for you!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

ToniJ1960

 Pretty much what happened she backed into me broadsided on the passenger side right where the door meets the rear quarter. Two dents in the door and a pretty good one in the quarter panel plus the door mustve been moved forward a little and its stiff opening and closing.

My car wasnt real pretty or nice before but I was working on some of it.

Geico called me back Saturday night an hour after I called them and said they talked with their policy holder and were ready to have their adjuster meet me at the body shop today.Even were going to give me a rental car to use.

I went out there and told them since its needing a lot of body work already and paint, all I want was for them to pull the dents the best they can and fill it with the minimum amount of filler spray some red colored primer ( I had some on my drivers door) and I would sign what they want and make it eassy on the insur co the body shop and me. I hate leaving my car you know how they treat our old cars.

Well he said they cant do that. I said its a body shop dont they have someone who can pull dents?

He went on to explain they had to issue a warranty as per the agreement between geico and the shop. So he said he would go get an estimate and wtite me a check to take it where I want.

I said I bet itll be 500 or 600 to do that too. He said he would be back i n 15 minutes and handed me a check for $820. Nothing to sign agree to or anything.

Now I guess I might just have to try to  pull those dents out myself. I can post a picture of it if anyone wants to offer any advice or suggestions. I know that steel on these cars is hard stff and I dont know where to start puling in the center near the edges etc.

dga57

My only experience with Geico was nearly twenty-five years ago when my then soon-to-be Mother-In-Law backed into my brand new truck, broadside.  They were wonderful with me, settling the claim generously and expediently.  That was not so much the case with her; they fixed her car and then canceled her insurance although she'd had no prior claims.  Laws vary from state to state but here you would have the upper hand, being the victim of someone else's poor driving.  Tell them you want your car repaired, period.  It is a collectible and you do not want a salvage title, so you shouldn't have to take that route.
Don't sign off on anything that is less than 100% satisfying to you.  Good luck!
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

dianne

Dave went through this recently and they totalled his with very little damage.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

ToniJ1960

 Wellit wasnt my night got backed into at the grocery store hit right at the rear of the passenger door broaside by someone backing out.

I called the police they said just exchnge information so she wrote down hers and signed it saying it was her fault plus I had a witness with me and he heard her say it was her fault.

Now I have to wait for her insurance company to talk to her then contact me back.

You know theyll say its just a Pinto heres $300 but Im not going to have a salvage title on my car for $300 or $400. I had it sonce 19866 and it didnt look great but I was working on it.

She has geico does anyone have experience with them or advice on what I should or shouldnt do? She emailed a picture of the damage to me right from the scene.