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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Standard shift 6.75" to 8" rear end swap questions

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Wittsend

"IIRC the 6.75" had ratios of: 3:18-3:40-3:55-3:73"

Yes, Thank you. And if I recall correctly there was at least one 2. (something) ratio as well???  However, I was actually asking regarding the ratios of the original posters car and the rear end he was getting (sorry if my question was confusing).   BTW, if they were running 13" tires and mileage was more important than scooting around I'd go with the 3.18, otherwise I'd still go with the 3.40 especially if they up-size the tires.

Srt

Quote from: Wittsend on January 07, 2015, 11:08:42 AM
Was it ever concluded what these specific ratios are in the 6-3/4" and the 8"?

I'd say of all the factory ratios that came with the 8" (3.00, 3.40, 3.55 - less a very rare 3.25) 3.40's are probably the best to get. I'd use them especially if you are running a 4 speed (no overdrive). I had 3.00's with my T-5/turbo 2.3 and the gearing just seemed all wrong..., in every gear.  This regardless of the 175-70-13" or the 215-60-14" tires I ran.  3.40's made the car much more "drivable" in everyday use. Currently 2,600 RPM @ 65 MPH in 5th gear with 175-70-13" tires.

For comparison the Turbo Coupes were dragging around about 1,000 extra pounds and only ran 3.55's (manual) with 225-60-16" tires. The turbo motor can probably deal with 3.25's. This makes 1st gear less "granny" and would drop the freeway RPM.  I realize the post deals with a stock motor and a 4 speed, but where ratios had a negative effect on the turbo/T-5 they would be more so on the stock car.
IIRC the 6.75" had ratios of: 3:18-3:40-3:55-3:73
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Wittsend

Was it ever concluded what these specific ratios are in the 6-3/4" and the 8"?

I'd say of all the factory ratios that came with the 8" (3.00, 3.40, 3.55 - less a very rare 3.25) 3.40's are probably the best to get. I'd use them especially if you are running a 4 speed (no overdrive). I had 3.00's with my T-5/turbo 2.3 and the gearing just seemed all wrong..., in every gear.  This regardless of the 175-70-13" or the 215-60-14" tires I ran.  3.40's made the car much more "drivable" in everyday use. Currently 2,600 RPM @ 65 MPH in 5th gear with 175-70-13" tires.

For comparison the Turbo Coupes were dragging around about 1,000 extra pounds and only ran 3.55's (manual) with 225-60-16" tires. The turbo motor can probably deal with 3.25's. This makes 1st gear less "granny" and would drop the freeway RPM.  I realize the post deals with a stock motor and a 4 speed, but where ratios had a negative effect on the turbo/T-5 they would be more so on the stock car.

pintoguy76

I put an 8" from my old 76 pinto sedan into my 74 wagon. I don't remember having any problems with the swap, it pretty much all bolted right in. I probably used the driveshaft from the 76, but I dont remember for sure.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

russosborne

Get the 8 inch and hang on to it until the 6.75 inch breaks if nothing else.
Probably overkill, but it is nice to have a spare ready to go if you need one.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Pintocrazed

I HAVE 3.40'S IN MY 73 RUNABOUT BUT CAN GET A 8" WITH THE SAME GEARS FOR FREE.MY 2.0 WILL EVENTUALLY BE BORED .30 OVER WITH BIGGER CAM AND HEADER.THINK THE EXTRA WEIGH FROM THE 8" WILL HURT?

71HANTO

Just to throw this into the mix...the 8 inch is 30+ pounds heavier. That is un-sprung weight. The axles and gears are also heavier which saps a slight amount of horsepower/torque that gets to the ground given the same ratios. It is not much but a 6.75 will get SLIGHTLY better gas mileage and is SLIGHTLY faster in acceleration. That being said, most of the big shops I have dealt with won't touch rebuilding a 6.75.


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russosborne

Yep, it totally depends on what the ratios are. Lower numbers (2.7, 3.0, etc) are more of a highway gear. Better gas mileage on the freeway, but acceleration is slower.
Higher numbers like 3.5, 3.9, 4.11, much quicker off the line, but not good on freeways.

Ratios are kind of confusing. Lower numeric numbers equals slower engine speeds compared to a higher ratio at the same mph. Wild butt example, going 65 with a 4.11 ratio you might have an rpm of 5k. With a 2.75 it might be closer to 2K. Hope that makes sense. Those numbers are  not real, but they do give you an idea of what I am talking about.

You have to know what both rears have to compare. However,odds are you could buy the same ratio gear for the 8 inch rear as what the 6.75 has if you like the current ratio. Lots of available ratios for the 8 inch.

What it all really comes down to is how do you want the car to be? A stoplight to stoplight cruiser is fine with something like 4.11s, but without overdrive not great for hoping on the frewway for a long trip. And vice versa, something setup with 2.75 gears is not much fun off the line, but great for long distance freeway driving. Something in the middle will give you some of both worlds.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

dick1172762

If the ratios are the same there will be no change.  You need to post your gear ratios for both rear ends to answer your question.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

popbumper

Cool Russ - but how will the different 8" gear ratio affect my driving as opposed to the 6.75" rear end? Can anyone tell me that?

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Srt

Quote from: Pintocrazed on December 15, 2014, 08:28:03 AM
ILL HAVE TO SECOND DICK ON THAT.STOCK MOTOR WILL NEVER PUT THE LITTLE REAREND IN A BIG ENOUGH BIND TO BREAK.JUST KEEP IT SEALED AND WELL LUBED

I had 6.75 in my turbo car for years and it worked just fine.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

russosborne

Problem is that if the stock rear does break, even from old age, it can be hard to fix(finding new parts).
You will never break the 8inch with the 2.3 unless you go crazy with turbos (400+HP).
Probably the simplest swap there is on these things.
Since you already bought it you might as well use it. At least in my opinion.
Me, I've bought an 8inch, but now I need a 9inch with the engine I plan on running.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Pintocrazed

ILL HAVE TO SECOND DICK ON THAT.STOCK MOTOR WILL NEVER PUT THE LITTLE REAREND IN A BIG ENOUGH BIND TO BREAK.JUST KEEP IT SEALED AND WELL LUBED

dick1172762

The only real advantage is you can get posi's for the 8". This is great for a hot rod Pinto, but for your wagon, its a waste of time. 6 3/4" rear ends are plenty strong for what your going to do with your Pinto. Pull the back cover off and change the lube because it could be the same lube it came with when new.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

popbumper

Thank you Dick - but what I would also like to know is what can  expect from a performance perspective? How will an 8" rear "behave" as opposed to the 6.75"? I know the ratios are different, but I don't quite understand how things will "perform". I'm just running a stock 2.3, nothing built up.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

bbobcat75

whats the gear ratios in the rears?  pretty easy swap!
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

dick1172762

Go to "General Help" then go down 15 post to mustang II rear end question. Its all there about the 8" rear end.
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popbumper

Some quick questions, My wagon is a standard equipped with the stock 6.75" rear end. I pulled an 8" rear end off of a '78 hatchback, and have it stored.

1) Is it a direct swap in with no mods to any major components?
2) Does the drive shaft have to change?
3) What performance decrease/increase am I looking at with this change in gearing?

I have a stock 2.3L, no mods, so it's not in any way "race ready". Just curious if putting an 8" in is a good idea for any reason. It's the only area of my car that has NOT been touched yet, and I'd love to just be able to swap in a different restored rear end with new rear springs rather than pulling the original and putting the car up on blocks for a while.

Thank you!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08