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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Power/torque limits of a stock 6.75in rear end?

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65ShelbyClone

'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

Just an FYI, there is another self serve yard about 1/2 mile from the LKQ yard.  It is called "U-Pull Parts." They use to have an impossible to find, limited web site. Now I can't even find that. Oh, wait, I just found it http://www.aadlenbros.com/

They actually use to be two yards (American/Import) but in the past few months they combined both yard at one $2 admission price.  Not as cheap as LKQ on a sale day, but generally cheaper on regular days. The yard is a lot cleaner too.  Again, sorry it didn't work out for you.  I entered the Primo yard near the cashiers.  It is to the far left (facing the trailers), kind of a hole in the wall.  I'm assuming you tried to go in by the center gate (about half way back).  That is used only for bringing the cars in/out.  I actually tried to go out that gate (it was open for cars coming in/out) after my second trip through produced nothing else to buy. The guy at that gate wouldn't let me out.

The signage at the place is not well thought out.  I think it is run by corporate people who hire low cost employees of limited capabilities.



65ShelbyClone

Quote from: Wittsend on August 02, 2014, 12:30:49 AM
I was at the Sun Valley LKQ (Pick Your Part) yard on Friday, 8-1-2014. I assume since it was the first day of the 50% off sale it was the "today" you are speaking of? I arrived just before they opened at 7AM and left about 9:30AM. The Primo yard was open when I was there. 

Yeah, I was there yesterday (Aug 1) too, but I didn't arrive until about 12 and was nearly heat-stroked by the time I left.

The last time I was at that junkyard must have been 2001-2002, so I didn't really know my way around. Maybe I just couldn't find the primo entrance, but I assumed it was the double gates under a very large sign that read "Primo Yard Entrance."

QuoteThere were three Mustang II's in the Primo yard. One was a 8" 3.00.

Man, I would have pulled that diff the second I saw it. No question.

I can also try the LKQ yard in Bakerfield. It is only four miles further than the one in Sun Valley and the drive is far nicer, but then I don't have any other eyes on the ground telling me where to look.  ;)
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

I was at the Sun Valley LKQ (Pick Your Part) yard on Friday, 8-1-2014. I assume since it was the first day of the 50% off sale it was the "today" you are speaking of?  I arrived just before they opened at 7AM and left about 9:30AM.  The Primo yard was open when I was there. Here is my link to my account of the day (not all that inspiring either).  http://www.fordpinto.com/general-pinto-talk/two-styles-of-steel-rallye-wheels/msg151941/?topicseen#new

There were three Mustang II's in the Primo yard. One was a 8" 3.00.  Another was a 6-3/4" and not sure about the third.  Sorry it didn't work out for you. Can't understand why the Primo yard was closed. I've never seem that happen.

65ShelbyClone

Quote from: Wittsend on July 12, 2014, 11:16:08 AMIt seems you are located in Lancaster, CA.  This is not too far from the self serve yards in Sun Valley. I had posted back in June that there was a Mustang II with a 8" rear in their Primo yard. This was during their 50% off sale.  You could probably have gotten that rear end for $75 at the sale. Their regular price for a drum to drum rear end is $129.99 with a $15 core charge. The Primo yard (the only place they now have older cars) charges about 30% more.  Sadly there are no posted prices for exact costs.  I can't guarantee you will find the rear end on any trip, but you should be able to acquire the rear end in time without breaking the bank.

This is just my personal account.....

I spent several hours at LKQ today because they have a 50% off sale going now, but the "primo" yard wasn't open at alll. Gate was closed and locked.  ???

All I ended up getting was a 3G alternator and a few bits of wiring. My gas was $24, parts $28.  It was a fun 120mi round trip with a few hours of 100°F heat in the middle.  >:(
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

65ShelbyClone

Well that's reassuring. Thanks for the input everyone. I guess I'll take it easy and not worry about it too much.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

ricohman

I ran a 302 with the open stock diff in my 72'. It would send one wheel up in smoke but I never killed the diff. And when I was 19 I didn't drive it easy.

dick1172762

Don't worry about it because all your going to do is spin one tire as long as you have your foot in it.
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65ShelbyClone

I'm not worried so much about it wearing out as I am about parts breaking. The non-EDIS EFI 2.3s were only rated at 88hp

Maybe I'll fill it with 85w-140 lube for a little extra cushion. No doubt that what's in it is ancient and foul and needs to be changed anyway.

Quote from: Wittsend on July 12, 2014, 11:16:08 AM
"- has gone over budget and the drop-in Pinto 8in rears I am finding will consume an uncomfortably large portion of what remains."

It seems you are located in Lancaster, CA.  This is not too far from the self serve yards in Sun Valley. I had posted back in June that there was a Mustang II with a 8" rear in their Primo yard. This was during their 50% off sale.  You could probably have gotten that rear end for $75 at the sale. Their regular price for a drum to drum rear end is $129.99 with a $15 core charge. The Primo yard (the only place they now have older cars) charges about 30% more.  Sadly there are no posted prices for exact costs.  I can't guarantee you will find the rear end on any trip, but you should be able to acquire the rear end in time without breaking the bank.

I may have to resort going to a wrecker. The only Pinto 8" I have found recently had a $250 price tag on it (plus another $23 in tax) and that was from a yard, although it had already been pulled. Same thing for '65-66 Mustang and MII 8" rears; bottom line seems to be about $250 for a complete one of unknown condition. >:(

I already have a complete 8" rear end with a 3.00s, but it's out of my '68 Mustang, so it's 59" wide and five-lug. I wanted to modify and use the 7.5" T-lock with 3.45s out of my '86 'Bird donor, but that thing is 61" wide and not at all worth shortening nor using wheels with the requisite 5.5in+ offset.

QuoteAs far as using the 6-3/4" if you drive as you state it will probably hold up.  The greatest torque force is just prior to the tires breaking loose. Avoid that and it should survive.

It should help that I'm going to leave the stock wheel/tire setup until the tires are spent. They are just Chinese 195s and I doubt the tread is wider than four inches.

QuoteWith a turbo car I find that gradually applying power causes more appreciation for the acceleration forces than just nailing the throttle which is dependent upon the turbo spooling up.  When I give people rides I generally drive the car "normally" stating that this is the way a regular Pinto runs. The next time I go through the gears I'll shift into 3rd and gradually push the pedal down.  You can see their eyes grow large when it feels like an afterburner has kicked in!

I used to have an '84 Mustang SVO and the 2.3T is definitely fun. ;D Even in a car 1000lbs heavier than a Pinto, they have some pep. The throttle is progressive so it's deceptively unresponsive at low throttle, but opens very quickly after ~50%. A previous owner had put an E6 manifold on mine, so that helped boost response and was probably worth about 15hp.

'83-86 2.3Ts have one of the largest turbos I know of ever put on a mass production engine. The IHI they switched to was probably a good choice for the heavy chassis, but the whistle and abrupt onset of boost and power that larger turbos have is why I like turbo cars.
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.

Wittsend

 "- has gone over budget and the drop-in Pinto 8in rears I am finding will consume an uncomfortably large portion of what remains."

It seems you are located in Lancaster, CA.  This is not too far from the self serve yards in Sun Valley. I had posted back in June that there was a Mustang II with a 8" rear in their Primo yard. This was during their 50% off sale.  You could probably have gotten that rear end for $75 at the sale. Their regular price for a drum to drum rear end is $129.99 with a $15 core charge. The Primo yard (the only place they now have older cars) charges about 30% more.  Sadly there are no posted prices for exact costs.  I can't guarantee you will find the rear end on any trip, but you should be able to acquire the rear end in time without breaking the bank.

As far as using the 6-3/4" if you drive as you state it will probably hold up.  The greatest torque force is just prior to the tires breaking loose. Avoid that and it should survive.  With a turbo car I find that gradually applying power causes more appreciation for the acceleration forces than just nailing the throttle which is dependent upon the turbo spooling up.  When I give people rides I generally drive the car "normally" stating that this is the way a regular Pinto runs. The next time I go through the gears I'll shift into 3rd and gradually push the pedal down.  You can see their eyes grow large when it feels like an afterburner has kicked in!

amc49

I'd run synthetic lube to carry more load...............

cromcru

as long as you keep up good maintance on the rear end it should be fine.im doing 2.3 efi/t5/6.75 and having no problems so far
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65ShelbyClone

Predictably and unfortunately, my 2.3T/T-5 swap has gone over budget and the drop-in Pinto 8in rears I am finding will consume an uncomfortably large portion of what remains. This has me thinking about trying to nurse it along on the stock 6.75 rear for a while so the car can at least be driven. Keeping the stock appearance for awhile will be fun too.

The non-intercooled 2.3T I have was originally rated at 155hp/180ft-lbs at 14-15psi.

It can also be run at a lower ~9-10psi, which I estimate will drop output to about 130hp/150ft-lbs.

Assuming I never dump the clutch (which I never really do anyway), only roll-on the throttle, granny shift, and overall treat it gently, do you all think a 6.75 would tolerate that for some time?
'72 Runabout - 2.3T, T5, MegaSquirt-II, 8", 5-lugs, big brakes.
'68 Mustang - Built roller 302, Toploader, 9", etc.