Mini Classifieds

Ford 2.3 Bellhousing C4/C5 & Torque Converter

Date: 07/08/2022 11:51 pm
99' 2.5l lima cylinder head

Date: 01/13/2017 01:56 am
71-73 Pinto Parts

Date: 06/06/2019 10:47 am
79 pinto driveshaft
Date: 08/18/2018 02:03 pm
Wanted Pinto Fiberglass Body Parts
Date: 08/16/2018 08:54 am
2.3 turbo intake (lower)

Date: 07/15/2020 09:29 pm
2.0 performance parts, 2 intakes, header, ported head, more
Date: 10/25/2019 04:05 pm
72 pinto drag car

Date: 07/08/2017 08:53 pm
Ford 2.3 Bellhousing C4/C5 & Torque Converter

Date: 07/08/2022 11:51 pm

Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

Members
Stats
  • Total Posts: 139,573
  • Total Topics: 16,267
  • Online today: 698
  • Online ever: 1,681 (March 09, 2025, 10:00:10 AM)
Users Online
  • Users: 0
  • Guests: 621
  • Total: 621
F&I...more

My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

ford-pinto.jpg

I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2nd try at a Pinto-74 wagon this time

Started by russosborne, July 02, 2014, 05:55:44 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

russosborne

Well, I am Ohio born, raised there til I was 10 . Then we moved here to Phoenix. Always wanted to go back, did finally, and it just didn't work out. Tried for 8 years.  :(
My wife hated coming back here, can't say I blame her.
Of course now I can't get a job here, either. Maybe it IS me.  :-\
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

r4pinto

Quote from: russosborne on July 02, 2014, 11:34:01 PM
I just realized that I need to go back to Summit Racing's site. I looked last night, but had thought the car had the 2.0. Have to see what all they have for a 2.3 now. Might as well fill up my wish list there.
This is something I will really miss. Summit Racing was easily within driving distance for me while I lived in Ohio.  Talking 20 minutes or so. That and the Pinto meet coming up along the Lake Erie coast this summer.  :(
Russ

There is a way to fix that.... Come back to the Scarlet & Gray side lol. Ohio born & raised & won't leave, no matter how much I complain about the inconsistent weather & rust buckets around here.  ;D
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

russosborne

I managed to get the front seats out. It was actually easy. It is really nice working on a car that doesn't have everything rusted. Didn't even have to use a breaker bar. Just a regular socket. Putting the seats in the cargo area was the hardest part.

Got a really good look underneath. Looks really clean and solid. Yay!

Bad news is that was all I could stand to do right now. Got to work up slowly to working out in the heat again. Would help if we had ac that was working, but that won't be til Monday. Thank God for sugar-free popsicles.  ;D

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

Well, I finally got up the energy to go look under the car at the rear end. Getting down is hard, getting up is even harder. :-[
Was hoping I would get lucky and it would be an 8inch, but nope, it's the 6.75.
Oh, well, something else to buy later on.
There is one for sale here locally, but the guy wants $150. I could maybe do $20. Not going to make an offer.  ;D

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

I got a better look at the crack this morning. It LOOKS like it is only the upper sheet metal, not the frame rail itself. The frame mount there isn't completely bolted on, and I could see about an inch behind it, and no sign of any damage. Course there could be some further forward, won't know for sure until I can get that mount off.

I tried to get the passenger door open, no luck. The lock isn't working right, I think there is something bent or maybe disconnected inside the door. I wasn't in the mood to really crawl in the car and mess with it, so other than spraying with WD-40 I just left it for now. And I just noticed that there are no inside door handles. another thing to add to the list.

I gathered up all of my leftover parts from the Lemans project. Universal aluminum radiator, Lincoln MKVII electric radiator fan (which fits perfectly on the radiator) Mad Electrical wiring kit(relays and stuff), old school chrome 3 spoke steering wheel with soft black grip(had this on my other Pinto) and adapter kit, electric fuel pump and canister style filter(both used, not sure if the pump needs rebuilt), steel box trunk mount battery kit(no trunk though. I might use the box in the stock location. not sure right now. Hate to waste it, even on clearance from Summit it was expensive.). Also have a brand new never used dial back timing light from Summit.

The radiator might be overkill, but living in Phoenix I'd rather do that anyway. Will mean having to figure out what size hoses to use, but that isn't a big deal.  Getting one of the sales drones at the parts store to sell it to me might be the hard part.  ::)

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

Reeves1

Weird crack in the inner fender.
You will need to have a close look at the frame rail.......


FYI.....it's going to take you tons of time & money to get this car back on the road.
Mine started with a "simple" engine/trans change.......and is now in the 3rd year !
I hope for a good / half good year, so the body work can be done this winter........taking me into the 4th year !

russosborne

In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

amc49

The starter shown in earlier pic appears to be an early direct drive one with the bump on the side. You can probably tell which head is on the car by looking inside the intake plenum where the four intake runners begin, if bottom of port is flat then D-port head and '82 and later. Provided some person didn't mismatch intake to head too.

I feel your pain with the heat as well, it's slowing me down from working on things as well. At least I can work at night when I'm motivated enough.

russosborne

Of course they do. When I don't have the money.  ;D

Yeah, going to take a bit longer than I had hoped, that is for sure.

Now the hard part is going to be finding time  to work on it. I tend to like to do things
around this time of night, but unfortunately the side of the house the Pinto is on is about
10 feet from the neighbor's master bedroom. And they seem to go to bed pretty early. Can't really
do anything noisy. Even dropping a wrench would be bad. Whoever designed this neighborhood did
a lousy job. Should have been driveway to driveway, bedroom to bedroom. Oh well, beggars can't be
choosers.

I am not handling this heat as well as I used to. Maybe I can get used to it again. Have to see what all
I can do without having to lay on the hot concrete. That I probably will never be able to do much of anymore.  :(

Thanks,
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

dga57

Hang in there, Russ!  Parts availability for the 2.3L is definitely better than for the 2.0 so that's a good thing.  It's probably safe to say that the project will take a bit longer and cost a bit more than anticipated, but it will be worth it in the long run.  That's really a shame about the transmission... the seller should have discounted for that since he told you it was there!  Pinto parts are relatively inexpensive compared to some cars, so shop carefully and patiently and it will all work out in the end.  Don't forget... lots of folks here have parts available. 
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

russosborne

Well, I just learned that these things have timing belts!
see, I am really lost.
Oh well, back to the Summit site. See what else I can find out.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: russosborne on July 02, 2014, 11:23:26 PM
Frankly, I don't have a clue what you are talking about.  :-[ I don't know bleep about these engines. Guess it is time to learn. Most of my engine knowledge is V8 stuff from the muscle car era.
I need a Ford 2.3L engines for Dummies book.
Russ
Don't feel bad until I got this Pinto I didn't know squat about these motors either, LOL, but I've learned a whole $h!tload since I came here and they are really very simple. I've always been into the V8's myself, bigger the better and still am really..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

russosborne

I just realized that I need to go back to Summit Racing's site. I looked last night, but had thought the car had the 2.0. Have to see what all they have for a 2.3 now. Might as well fill up my wish list there.
This is something I will really miss. Summit Racing was easily within driving distance for me while I lived in Ohio.  Talking 20 minutes or so. That and the Pinto meet coming up along the Lake Erie coast this summer.  :(
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

Frankly, I don't have a clue what you are talking about.  :-[ I don't know bleep about these engines. Guess it is time to learn. Most of my engine knowledge is V8 stuff from the muscle car era.
I need a Ford 2.3L engines for Dummies book.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

74 PintoWagon

You gonna change that intake??, may as well go with a lower EFI intake that's what I'm doing.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

russosborne

Thanks.
Guess that will be something to add to the wanted list.
Just had the car in my possession for what, 5 hours and that list is already longer than I had wanted.
Oh, well. If things went easily I'd have to wonder why. :-)
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: russosborne on July 02, 2014, 09:59:55 PMDid aluminum intakes come stock on a Ranger or Mustang with the 2.3? It is a Ford intake for sure, at least it has the Ford name and numbers on it.
Yes they did, I have one on mine also.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: russosborne on July 02, 2014, 07:53:24 PMBTW, what would have been attached to the top of the hatch/gate where the screw holes are in the first two pictures?
Thanks,
Russ
Russ, this is what was on the there..

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

russosborne

this ought to be enough.
hey, nice hood prop.
the battery tray area looks good.
Did aluminum intakes come stock on a Ranger or Mustang with the 2.3? It is a Ford intake for sure, at least it has the Ford name and numbers on it.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

more, isn't this nut done yet?
the second picture shows even more damage on the inner fender well. This has been welded.

last two show the electronic ignition. will have to look at the wiring later on.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

yet more. Getting annoying yet? ::)
and then there is this one without a key.
The driver's side pop out window works. Haven't gotten inside the passenger side yet.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

more.
headliner, who needs a headliner? ;D
The driver side interior panel has a couple of decent sized holes over the tire. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

got some more pictures.
I hope the mount in the second picture is the one for the passenger side.
and then there is the key that won't come out.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

Thanks, but right now I don't even know what color it is going to end up being. :-)
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

bbobcat75

have the perfect seats for that wagon - deluxe olive two tone seats in great shape!! but they are in Omaha Nebraska!
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

russosborne

and  the last for now.

Oh, I checked and I do have an electronic distributor. So far I am about breaking even on what I was going to add but already have and what I didn't want to have to do but will.  :-\

Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

more.
BTW, what would have been attached to the top of the hatch/gate where the screw holes are in the first two pictures?
Thanks,
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

and more. I have about 20 total for now.
If I duplicate any I apologize.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

goody, that worked. 8)
here are some more.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

russosborne

Let's see if I can add more pictures. Been having a problem with resizing them. I think I got that fixed this time.
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.