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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

2014 Pinto Stampede!

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flash041

I have my plans for the Midwest Group. We will meet at the Perkins Resturant for lunch at 11:30am Thursday July 17th at exit 77 I90/80 South Bend IN. After exiting take a left at the first traffic light, the Perkins is right there on the left. After lunch we head to the Studebaker Museum for a tour starting at 1:00pm.  We will be back on the road by 2:30 to head to Dearborn.We should arrive in Dearborn about 6:30pm. Anyone not doing the Stampede'but are close by,are welcome to join us.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Pinto1600

If anyone on the stampede is interested, I have a set of mid 80's to 90's Fox body aluminium 14" rims mounted on P215/60R14 (front) and P235/60R14(rear). I have all the lugs and center caps to go with the wheels. I'll bring them to Dearborn if you want to buy the set. Asking $200.00 See you all soon!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

flash041

To any of you last minute fence sitters check the e-mail recieved from Ford:

         
To All Ford Product Development Truck and Car Show Pinto and Bobcat Owners and Pinto Stampede Participants:

If you are receiving this e-mail from me directly, you have at least one car in the Pinto Stampede Exhibit for our event on Friday, July 18.  On behalf of all the committee staff, thank you so much for your support of, and your commitment to, our very special display.  To participate in a Pinto and Bobcat display like this one and for us to host the Pinto Stampede is special and historic, so you should be proud to be responsible for it!


Norm calls it Epic, Ford calls it Historic

BE THERE!!
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

r4pinto

I really gotta get my butt in gear if I'm gonna have that car on the road in time for the stampede. Hard to drive it with only half an engine & partially burned wiring harness.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

flash041

If any one is interested in camping on the Stampede your in luck. Four of us , including Cookieboy, a friend, Jim Madison and I will be camping at the Wayne County Fairgrounds about 16 miles from the hotel. They have showers and restrooms. Tent camping is $15 a night. R V sites. $27. They take reservations with a one nights deposit.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

flash041

Can't wait Norm!  If any one wants to Stampede from the west I will be leaving the Janesville WI / Rockford IL area on the morning of the 17th. We plan a stop at the Studebaker Museum in South Bend IN at about noon.Please contact me if you want to join in.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

Norman Bagi

Right now we are a just over 5 weeks away. It is going to come up fast! We have 40 Pinto's registered through the Stampede and more owned by the Ford Employees coming (unknown amount) We have been granted extra room so anyone wishing to go, especially in the Detroit area can contact me at bosspinto@pintostampede.com

Pinto1600

If anyone's interested I'll have some paperwork for 74-76 Pinto's that I'm looking to unload. And some small parts I'd like to sell during the weekend. See you all soon!!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

r4pinto

Gonna start working on the 80 to get her ready.  As long as I can get her going I will be a happy camper.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Scott Hamilton

poomwah,

You need to come to the car show as a viewer and join us anyway... :)

Love to meet you!
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Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

poomwah

I've been wanting so badly to participate in one of the stampedes, I finally get a "pinto" and now I can't afford to go, and the car wouldn't make it even if I could afford it :[
Ironically I'm only 2 hours from dearborn :[

74 PintoWagon

Too bad it's so far away.. :( :(
Art
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Srt

Quote from: Norman Bagi on March 30, 2014, 06:53:48 PM
No webcast this time around.  The quality was poor and it cost too much.  I will probably just film everything and then post highlights on youtube, the quality will be better as well.  Stay tuned, I am working on a few more things for this one.


i'll be waiting & watching!

the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Norman Bagi

35 Pinto's are pre-registered so far out of the 40 we are allowed for the Ford employee car show.   :o  Two spots have been freed up!  ::)  Anyone wanting to get on board this thrill ride should email me asap at bosspinto@pintostampede.com  8) Still waiting on three spots being held, but two are confirmed open.   ;)

Srt

the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Norman Bagi

No webcast this time around.  The quality was poor and it cost too much.  I will probably just film everything and then post highlights on youtube, the quality will be better as well.  Stay tuned, I am working on a few more things for this one.

Srt

norm i admire your tenacity and dedication to this undertaking.  it's going to be good! (as they all are)


one of these days i'll be able to tag along


please don't forget to 'webcast' the whole thing.



the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Ryscar

RYSCAR is looking forward to once again being the Canadian component in another tremendous Stampede...and much closer to home this time.
Richard
Richard

Norman Bagi

Pre-Registration emails for the Ford Employee car show have been sent out.

Going to be some unique surprises and a grand entrance for us.

See you there.

Norman Bagi

2 stops for the Stampede on Saturday the 19th of July have just been added.

First we will visit the Rousch collection.

Oh wait, they are closed on Saturday's.  :'(

However, they are making special arrangements to open just for us!  ;D

Isn't that special! The fee will be $5.00 per person and we will get a private guided tour.

Second we plan on visiting the Model T museum, this has a $10.00 charge per person and is the actual birthplace of the Model T.
There will be more to come, but for now you can visit their the websites here.

http://www.roushcollection.com/about.html

http://www.tplex.org/1_overview.html

Norman Bagi

Ladies and gentlemen, in the coming weeks we will be announcing the registration for the Ford Employee car show and also sending out the information on Saturday and Sunday's events.  Many of you have all ready gotten the hotel information. Once you get the registration information, send it in and secure a spot!

Right now I have 37 Pinto's lined up and am working hard to get everyone in.  If you didn't contact me it may all ready be too late.  If you planned to come but cannot, please contact me so I can make room for late entries. if you want to get in do not wait any longer just in case we get some drop outs. I all ready have 7 on a short list and am working on getting the field expanded to accommodate everyone. This could be the biggest Pinto collection since the 2011 Carlisle Ford nationals.

Contact Norm at bosspinto@pintostampede.com
See you in July!

Pinto1600

I've made my hotel reservations. Now all I need is to get registered for the show. See you all soon!
Happiness is..Driving a classic Pinto

Norman Bagi

I have 27 confirmed attendees for the 2014 Stampede. 3 more are possibly coming. Out of the 27 confirmed Pintos many have more than one Pinto they want to bring for a possible 31 Pinto's not including the possible entries. We have 30 spots reserved.  At this time I am trying to expand the amount of Pinto's that can attend, also we will have a pre-registration that must be done quickly, so if you want to come and have not signed up you may still get in if someone doesn't register for the Ford Employee car show during the pre-registration.
If you emailed me before this posting, you are in, but will still have to register with the Ford employee car show.  I will notify you so don't worry.  Also I will be sending out all hotel information to Stampeders this week.  Other events are in the works and we will have a weekend full of events and fun so stay tuned and reserve that hotel room once I send out the information to you.  Anyone who wants to try to get in last minute, please send me an email at bosspinto@pintostamede.com to grab one of the few spots remaining or to get on the waiting list.

flash041

Tommy looking forward to hanging out with you and your son or wife this July.
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

DreamBean

From my house to Detroit is 781 miles, That's around 12 hours driving time one way(or so the map says) If the wife goes, That means I will have to have a half way stopping point. If my son goes, Then it's Hammer down. I have some repairs and improvements to make. (Yes, That includes the redneck AC.) BUT I WILL BE THERE!
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

Scott Hamilton


Quote from: flash041 on January 24, 2014, 04:57:10 PM
Dick, pink handcuffs?? Really??

Oh no... You woke the Sheriff!


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Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

flash041

Dick, pink handcuffs?? Really??
1978 Pinto Cruising wagon (I am the original owner ! ) Built Aug 15th 1977 in NJ
1993 Mustang LX 2.3 convertible

postalpony

Scott---When you contact Sheriff Dave see if he has any pink
handcuffs--that seems to be all the rage!!  lol ;) ;) ;D ::)
                             Dick
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

Scott Hamilton

Quote from: pintoman on January 22, 2014, 11:18:25 AM
Scott are you driving through Ohio on your way north.If so we can meetup somewhere along the way.

Hey Harley-

Yea man- I'll be going right through Ohio. I will stop to see my sister in Copely on the way back...

We'll plan it when it gets closer- Looking forward to it!

Ordering the 'brief'case this week... :D

Yellow 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
Green 72, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
White 73, Runabout, 2000cc, 4Spd
The Lemon, the Lime and the Coconut, :)

Norman Bagi

Postal, I got your email and you are on the list. It will be great to see you and the pony on the ride again.  A reminder to everyone else to send me an email to get on the Stampede, posting here does not get you on the Stampede. I need an email sent to bosspinto@pintostampede.com in order to make it official otherwise it is just a post. All corespondance and updates are done via email. We will give dates and basic information here but actual hotel information, times, registration information etc is done via email to the actual Stampeders. Please don't miss out or lose a possible spot because you only left a note here.
I will be sending out hotel information early next week to all Stampede members. Hotel blocks are reserved and only a few spots remain.