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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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74 PintoWagon

Quote from: pinto_one on December 04, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
yes it has the same yoke , if your pinto has the C-3 it will be better ,cooler lines are the same, so you do not have to make up those, shifter arm will have to be removed and put into The A4LD , you do not have to remove the VB, drive shaft will have to shorten 4.5 inch,s  and the same for the shifter rod, the shifter will almost have the same travel, just have to file a little on top of the park side and a tad on the low side , so looking at the car you will never know if it had overdrive , nice to get rid of the buzzing at hwy speeds , and get some MPG to boot,
Thanks, yep it has a C-3 in it now so looks like a simple swap then and everything looks stock, cool. Yes, sure will be nice to get better mileage and get rid of that buzzing going down the road.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

amc49

Yes I did do the C3 pump mods as well. Also a Transgo shift kit to stop the shuttle shifting, that thing used to drive me crazy. Downshifted WAY too easy and early. Kit pretty much took care of that. There was some sort of reverse pressure mod in there as well-I had to drop that one, trans not worn enough to need it. Going into reverse jerked super hard and too much there.

I switched from MTX to ATX at the time, and shortened driveshaft enough to allow for 1 inch further forward movement left as the car sat at ride height.

pinto_one

yes it has the same yoke , if your pinto has the C-3 it will be better ,cooler lines are the same, so you do not have to make up those, shifter arm will have to be removed and put into The A4LD , you do not have to remove the VB, drive shaft will have to shorten 4.5 inch,s  and the same for the shifter rod, the shifter will almost have the same travel, just have to file a little on top of the park side and a tad on the low side , so looking at the car you will never know if it had overdrive , nice to get rid of the buzzing at hwy speeds , and get some MPG to boot,
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74 PintoWagon

Well, I doubt I'd be towing with a Pinto,LOL, as far as alignment goes that shouldn't be an issue that tool shouldn't be hard to make it's just a centering device. So the Ranger and Mustang with 2.3 unit will fit the Pinto and can use the lockup then, move crossmember and make up cooling lines and wire up the lockup and OD and it should be good to go, and I'm sure the drive shaft will have to shortened also, I assume the yoke is the same as the C-3?..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

pinto_one

my shortcut on the pump was just slip it on the converter and tighten up the pump, the remove the converter and bolt the housing on the trans, also did you do the oil drain back mod to the pump seal area , and always use the new style front pump seal from ford , Better and take more heat, A4Ld takes the same pump seal as the C-3, also more info, if your going to put this in your V-6 pinto like I am use the 4.0 A4LD  and use the 2.9 converter , 4.0 is low stall ,  2.9 high stall,   if you buy one it will only come a few ways ,OEM, 2.3 A4Ld Ranger .mustang and some Turbo T-Birds,       2.8 2.9 and 4.0 have the same bolt patern,  3.0 is all by it self ,  they are other versions of the trans , but you need a computor to make them work,  as for the first one I cooked was in a 86 ranger 2.3 , towed in overdrive, after that bigger coolers and toed in drive and even have manual lock up switch, truck has 250K no problems wifes bronco II trans craped out at almost 400K, it a good transmission if you know what you can and should not do with it, one is change oil in it every 15K, works for me,
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amc49

Not 100% sure but the OEM would've put that trans behind a 2.3; there HAS to be a converter bellhousing that simply bolts right up using all A4LD parts and converter. Now as to whether the crank changed for converter snout? You never know...............

And I agree that trans is too light duty even with the 6 pinions to be towing with. It was meant for lightweight cars and little power. Should get good mileage though with lighter parts in it.

amc49

Yep, just as I thought, look at pages 79-80 in that linked manual and step 63 of page 79, there is no register for the pump to center up on, only a flat surface. Steps 68 and 69 describe the centering up procedure using the tool I referred to. You'll play the dickens finding one.

IIRC I left out the pump seal so as to make some working room and bought 3 drill bits of exact same size and measured them to be sure within .001" of each other, picked size wise to take up most of the distance in the airgap there. I took 3 $5 Autozone feeler gauge sets apart by simply unscrewing the screw to free up feeler gauge pieces of all sizes. I picked drill bit to use with a like .001"-010" feeler in a range to make up the rest of thickness, a drill bit plus feeler of correct thickness equaled just tight in the gap there, arrange all three drill+ feeler in a triangle pattern and keep switching out feelers bigger and bigger until gap taken up. When you are there tighten the pump up. If carefully done you will be within .002" there and it'll run forever. You need drill bits sized so that the feelers are thin so they can curve to conform to the curve of your inner bore there. If feelers too thick you will make big errors there. Quick check when done? Once pump bolted up tight mount it on converter snout and slowly rotate it, if free all the way round you're good to go. Banzai................

I've got like 5 sets of AZ feeler gauges, I've managed to use them with other parts in different ways to not need the sometimes $250 special toolsets for some ATX that you cannot 'do without', like CD4E.

pinto_one

yes it will bolt up but then the lockup converter will not fit,  it is not like the C-4 , the front pump is built into the bellhousing , if you have a 2.3 use the one out of a ranger 2wd or mustang with the 2.3 , use flywheel also, some had bolts, some had studs and nuts, grab the dipstick also , if you do not you will have to use a spacer (one inch) because the housing is one inch longer because of the lock up converter, should give you some more get up and go because of the higher stall speed, even if you do not hook up the OD and lock up switchs it will act just like the C-3, same gear ratio, cooler line will work also if you org had the C-3 but you will have to bolt them to the trans and strech them forward the one inch before you tighten them, (that extra inch on the housing ) if you buy one make sure you get the plug for the OD/Lock up, the neutral switch is the same, just plug it in, as for using the stock C-3 converter with the A4LD , nope , as I said the bell is one inch longer , but you can bolt the C-3 bell on the A4LD , but you will not have Lock up, and the high stall will heat up the oil in no time if your in alote of stop and go traffic , I have the same trans in my 4-0 ranger and have a temp gauge one it , it cools down very quick when it goes to lock up,    but note this ,  never ever Tow in Over drive with this transmission, it will die very soon,  as me how I know  :P , later Blaine
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amc49

Don't quote me on that one but thinking yes. Several converters used there as well, obviously you want the lock up one, could be different ones based on engine used.  I know way back in the day the tech guy at trans parts distributor was telling me to bring in converter, there were several of them. The upgrade to 6 pinions probably so they could use the trans on bigger sixes with more torque. While nice to have maybe not necessary on simple low HP fours.

FYI look CLOSE, don't know if front pump on A4LD is like the C3, but if it is, there is no centering pilot like most pumps have to center up pump front and back to each other. Meaning if you pull pump apart you must, I say MUST make provision to center the front back up on back to make both parts concentric with each other. If not converter then goes in and pump insides off center from snout bushing and can tear up trans in about 15 minutes like that. Ford uses a special tool to center up all to each other and tighten down then.



74 PintoWagon

Thanks for the info, looks like the A4ld is in the future and I assume it should bolt up to the C-3 bellhousing too, right.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

pinto_one

the one I have is electronic, but you can still use it with a switch, the early ones had just the one wire for converter lock up, but the later ones after 93 were the better ones , 6 pinion planet gear set instead of 3 that the org C-3 used , so if you want to upgrade your C-3 use the later A4LD back half guts , all the same , only much more stronger, you can also use the early VB in the newer (after 93 ) A4ld and use a relay and push button for lock up, like the GM 700R4,   works the same way , made up a Bellhousing to mate the 700R4 to my 2.8 V-6 but the headers hit the trans on the right side and did not have the room to move them out enough to clear, so in went the A4Ld , I also dropped in a 2.9 crank and machined the nose for the gear , rods are the same but you have to use the 2.9 pistons , if you use the 2.8s you will have over 10 to 1 compression , also using the 2.9 computer and a 3.8 TB , (see ranger station for that conversion )  reason for the mods is I pull a 2000 pound 16ft Scamp Camper , plus I want the MPG when I am not towing ,
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74 PintoWagon

WOW thanks bunch, I saved that one for sure. Took a quick glance but the early one seems kinda like the 700R basics?, but I thought they were all like the 4L60E all electronic(computerized) but looks like just 3-4 is electronic with a solenoid like the TCC, that's pretty cool because you could just use a toggle switch to activate 3-4 when you wanted to go to overdrive not when it wants to just like the lockup, so two toggle switches on the shifter done deal. I'm gonna have to look into this.. Thanks again..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

amc49

http://sierraautomatico.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/a4ld_manualatsg.pdf

Look at page 85 and 86, early trans has only TCC solenoid, later one has 3-4 shift solenoid and TCC solenoid. The early one shifts 3-4 hydraulically like old school. Note years of trans on those two pages.

I'd save that manual pretty quick, things like that have a tendency to disappear pretty quick........................ATSG does not like to give away money...........

amc49

Went looking for info once, pretty sure the first year one is not. There are no solenoids on the VB. There is electronic for TCC but that's not hard to work around.

74 PintoWagon

I thought they were all electronic?????, I got a C-3 in mine now and was thinking about an overdrive but I don't want to deal with the electronic stuff, the TCC is no big deal just use a toggle switch..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

amc49

Wish I'd picked up an A4LD myself instead of rebuiding a C3, at the time I did it I did not realize they were almost the same trans. Which one you got, the one with no electronic control except TCC?

pinto_one

Hi , I know someone out there that might be skinny enough after eating so much on turkey day could crawl under their pinto to get some mesurements so I can weld in a new transmission mount,  I have a V-6 pinto that a few years ago I pulled the engine to rebuild it, I cut out the brackets on the transmission because I am going to use the A4LD over drive transmission in it, only I lost all my data I had on the new mount when my old computer crashed, so now have to start over ,   the swap is not so bad as I thought it would be,  easyer if you already have the C-3 in it , dip stick , plug in for the neutral/back up lites are the same,  cut the drive shaft 4  1/2 inches and the same with the shifter rod,  the yoke fits also,  shifter just take a little filing for 1st and sec gear, trans lines hook up in same place ,  now only thing to do is to weld up the mount and I am done , Thanks   Blaine In Missisippi
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