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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dianne

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on November 17, 2013, 07:08:08 AM
Grenades are cool, it's different.

I had shell casings on my other cars - just cut down some and epoxied them in. Those kept disappearing, these probably will also...
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

I'm real close. We had a warm Saturday last week and I took down a lot of the hood that I didn't before. Rust again under those little nicks. I think I'm almost there now, one small thing and the rain gutters (boy am I dreading that! Mask of course cause all the plastic. Hopefully I won't be doing this again LOL

The wheels all painted black. I like the contrast of the rings and hubs on it. Oh, also had to add some anodized aluminum gold granades to the valve stems on the wheels LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Quote from: popbumper on November 13, 2013, 07:31:59 PM
I've heard that about makeshift booths - and I'm considering it - but I used to work in a woodshop that had a full size auto updraft paint booth where we painted cabinets. I have asked the owner if I could use it when the time comes....and he has agreed.....so hopefully that will still work out.....

Well, that would also work if you don't have that alternative :) 
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

popbumper

I've heard that about makeshift booths - and I'm considering it - but I used to work in a woodshop that had a full size auto updraft paint booth where we painted cabinets. I have asked the owner if I could use it when the time comes....and he has agreed.....so hopefully that will still work out.....
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dianne

Quote from: popbumper on November 13, 2013, 07:21:41 PM
I will, thanks for the tip. The Deltron has been real decent for me, but I need to spray in a dust free booth (or find someone to do it cheap). I can paint all day, love doing it, but I don't have the proper facilities.

Deltron is very expensive though and Limco is pretty good from the cars I've seen painted with it, and years later - not like Macco paint.

You can setup a booth like this:

1) Get old sheets at a Goodwill or other thrift store.
2) Clean the heck out of the area you're painting
3) Pin them up in your garage or work space to create the booth
4) Spray water on the floor, ceiling and the walls you made with the sheets

It works pretty darn good. If you do get dust, just sand it down later (enamel in about 6 months) and polish :)
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

popbumper

I will, thanks for the tip. The Deltron has been real decent for me, but I need to spray in a dust free booth (or find someone to do it cheap). I can paint all day, love doing it, but I don't have the proper facilities.
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dianne

Quote from: popbumper on November 13, 2013, 07:12:52 PM
Well, I want to use the red oxide because it's closer in color to the final coat (easier to cover/hide). When I did the first bodywork I used standard grey. As far as final coat, I chose to use original enamel - I realize that urethanes are superior but I am trying to save some $$ - and it won't be a daily driver - and I am using a urethane hardener in it anyway, so it should be reasonably durable.

Guess that makes sense! Check out Limco paint, I think you might be surprised at the results and the cost. Single stage may only cost you around $160.00 with everything including the harder. The Maverick, got a deal, will have Deltron paint - but only because I got a deal from someone who decided to go with a different color - that stuff is expensive!

So, guess I'll get some red oxide and then resand LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

popbumper

Well, I want to use the red oxide because it's closer in color to the final coat (easier to cover/hide). When I did the first bodywork I used standard grey. As far as final coat, I chose to use original enamel - I realize that urethanes are superior but I am trying to save some $$ - and it won't be a daily driver - and I am using a urethane hardener in it anyway, so it should be reasonably durable.
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dianne

Hey pop! Mine is also brown, although you can't tell now with all the primer LOL Would the red oxide in Lacquer be better than doing it with the gray lacquer primer I'm using? I guess the red would match the top coat. I plan on doing a single stage enamel urethane on it, and not the two stage.

The Maverick will be two stage because I bought the paint already and the King in pearl white, and thinking lacquer there also.

So back to the Pinto, are you saying that using the red oxide would be better than the grey?

Thanks!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

popbumper

This is really good stuff Dianne. As you have seen on my restoration (and you know from experience), bodywork is an absolute OCD fest, and it a tedious, tedious time killer. You will think you have something super flat until you throw some nice shiny paint on it. Then, the light catches it a certain way, and OOPS - there are tiny dents you missed in places you'd never guess. I am putting the first coat on the car after all the bodywork JUST to act as the guide for bodywork. I have found a number of missed spots, this paint will be sanded back down with 600 grit, any defects will be repaired with spot putty and a rust oxide primer (the car is brown), and then will be final painted.
Keep up the GREAT work, it's all worth the effort. I can't wait to get mine done too!!
Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

dianne

Quote from: dave1987 on November 12, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
Lookin good Dianne! You keep finding things like that you might have to wait until spring to paint the car! ;)

Any progress with the console yet?

You know how I am with the car ;) LOL  I ordered the paint, it doesn't ship for 5 more days. I'm not certain how I can fit it yet. The console in the car now actually comes real close to the shifter. I'm not certain if I can keep the original tray though and may have to cut that out to fit the console. Right now it's above my pay grade so might have someone do it. Found someone to do the seats and he said he can think of something on the console. If I could fit a 78 one in there, it would work. Thinking it through! Then I'm done until Spring after paint to work underneath. Gotta do the Maverick and get it in primer at least.

I just had the back window redone with outthe defroster, it looks good without the lines :-D

Hey no one bought those Pintos yet, just called the guy.

You'll like the detail work. Someone today said it's like 95% of the paintjob, they aren't kidding!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dave1987

Lookin good Dianne! You keep finding things like that you might have to wait until spring to paint the car! ;)

Any progress with the console yet?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dianne

As you think you're closer to paint? You're not. I keep finding more wrong before paint. Maybe I am getting OCD on this, but I do want it perfect as possible. So the trouble with just doing a small dent takes awhile. The car is now at least 70% primer. This was a car that I originally thought would be some minor bodywork and a paint job. Oh well, the devil is in the details as they say.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dianne on November 03, 2013, 11:01:33 PM
Mine are pretty dark back there ;)  Are yours done on the rear?
Yes they are.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on November 03, 2013, 10:58:30 PM
The driver and passenger door and windshield are the only ones that have a ruling on, the rest can be limo black it don't matter.

Mine are pretty dark back there ;)  Are yours done on the rear?
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dianne on November 03, 2013, 08:56:20 PM
I may leave the sides and front alone I guess. I love the back done, changes the look of the car :D
The driver and passenger door and windshield are the only ones that have a ruling on, the rest can be limo black it don't matter.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on November 03, 2013, 08:35:05 PM
Lot of states are different but AZ goes by a percentage of transparency on the doors and windshield, behind that don't matter, and cops carry a meter with them they'll pull you over if they think you're too dark and check it and they'll give you a ticket if it's too dark... Mine is tinted all the way around the back.

I may leave the sides and front alone I guess. I love the back done, changes the look of the car :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Quote from: dianne on November 03, 2013, 07:22:20 PM
Yeah, we can here, but was thinking about ceramic which lowers heat and isn't that bad :)

Are your backs tinted also?

Oh, the sticker? Just showing my support for POTUS!  ::)
Lot of states are different but AZ goes by a percentage of transparency on the doors and windshield, behind that don't matter, and cops carry a meter with them they'll pull you over if they think you're too dark and check it and they'll give you a ticket if it's too dark... Mine is tinted all the way around the back.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on November 03, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
That is looking great, and I love the sticker on the back window,lol..

Oh, and best check with state laws for tint shade on the doors.

Yeah, we can here, but was thinking about ceramic which lowers heat and isn't that bad :)

Are your backs tinted also?

Oh, the sticker? Just showing my support for POTUS!  ::)
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

That is looking great, and I love the sticker on the back window,lol..

Oh, and best check with state laws for tint shade on the doors.
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

dianne

Three more pictures of the tint job. Thinking of doing the side windows in a lighter shade or ceramic. Have to get the channels fixed first...
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

OK, I tinted the windows in my Pinto, wow they look great! This is where the bodywork is right now also, having to finish it and then to paint. Closer, still a tad more to go. I am OCD with it like Dave says LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

This is Milo with no windows on it, even the rare window is off. The windows are drying overnight and going back in tomorrow. I didn't do the work though - but I think Milo will look HOT!

Dave, no more tarp over the speakers in back :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dianne

Quote from: dave1987 on October 27, 2013, 03:26:06 PM
Pintos are the healthy kind of addiction! :D

I agree. I put the Rambler on Craigslist. I'm keeping the Pinto and Maverick!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

dave1987

Pintos are the healthy kind of addiction! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

dianne

Quote from: 74 PintoWagon on October 27, 2013, 08:24:52 AM
Well, hopefully I'll luck out and it won't happen on mine, lol..

LOL, like Dave said I am getting pretty OCD on this wagon. So honestly the other side needs some also so going to work on that side now. I'll post pictures in more detail. Honestly, I didn't know if this was going to work. I'll put them where I placed the others. I just want it as perfect as possible. Now I'm thinking Lacquer cause it shines more, but will probably do a single stage acrylic enamel.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied