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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Is there a way to convert a 4 Lug 8 inch axle to disc brakes?

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EP73Pinto

I would be interested in one of your rear ends. The only thing is I live in oregon and Shipping would be killer. How much would you want for one. Is it already equipped with the discs?

Stevonator

I also happen to have a surplus of the Wilwood calipers you see above....and yes we use 4 bolt pattern and inside of a 13" wheel.

Stevonator

I have 2 Speedway Engineering Mini Stock Quick change rears that I am retiring. My circletrack race truck is making to much power for them and blowing the ring and pinions out of them. Right now they are literally disassembled and waiting to go for scrap. I can build these to suit with brand new everything (R&P, bearings, seals) in them if there is interest. Otherwise they have a date with a furnace. Right now they are set up with aluminum spools and 55 1/2" from hub flange to hub flange. I'd rather see them do something than melt...but talk to me soon.....otherwise they melt.

wingman72

you can find an 8" rearend in some  V6 Pinto and Bobcat wagons, or V6 Mustang II's
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D.R.Ball

Here is the part number for the Currie brake adapter, check to ensure the rear end is a big or small bearing housing.  Part number is CE-6011BCM cost is about 149.00 the good news is that the Cobra Disc Brake Calipers should be the same as the 1988 T-bird Turbocoupe....Double check with Rockauto.com to check part number for the calipers.

Bobcat Racer

For our road race Bobcat we turned the axle flanges down on a lathe to fit inside of a Ford Fiesta front disc brake rotor and fabricated up a bracket to attach the caliper.  Since the Fiesta ran 12" wheels, the setup fits with no problem inside of a 13" wheel.
The good:
Parts are dirt cheap- Rock Auto has calipers and rotors on closeout last time I checked
The bad:
The caliper bracket we made doesn't have the bleed screw at the highest point so bleeding the brakes has to be done with the caliper removed from the rotor.  It's a three man job.  One to pump the brakes, one to hold the caliper, and one to turn the bleed screw.

All in all, the new setup works perfectly with the stock master cylinder.

cossiepinto

73Pinto,

One of the reasons drum brakes are popular on live axle rear ends (like the 8 and 9 inch Fords) is that drums aren't susceptible to axle end play like disc brakes are.  The axle end play knocks the disc brake pads back, so when you first apply the brakes, the brake pistons have to take up the extra slack before they start rubbing on the rotors.

The way to fix the problem is to use a different style axle-retention rear end (like the later Lincoln/T-bird) or to use a floating axle rear end like the racers use.  That's the rear end the Speedway Engineering sells. 

I did a lot of shopping around and finally decided on the Speedway Engineering rear for a number of reasons, not the least of which was the added benefit of the matching mini-stock front hubs.

Then I made a boo-boo.  In a fit on craziness, I went ahead and bought the quick-change rear end!  That required me to change the location/size (now smaller) of the fuel tank. 

cossiepinto

71 Pinto,

On one of my other posts you'll find the triple master cylinder set up I used (Tilton).  The pedals are overhung, with the master cylinders inside the car.  I used Wilwood Dynalite II calipers and the largest rotors I could fit inside 15" wheels.

The hubs are from Speedway Engineering ( www.1speedway.com ), and are 4.25 on 4 lug pattern (standard Pinto).  They fit Pinto spindles using standard Pinto bearings and races.  If you use GM calipers (common for the roundy-round racers), you can find caliper brackets that will bolt onto the Pinto spindles.  I tried several times to fabricate brackets for the Dynalites that were satisfactory, but was never happy with them.  Then Wilwood same out with a 2" dropped Pinto spindle that mate up GM-style caliper brackets (they use a 4-bolt bracket), and I adapted the Dynalites to those brackets.  This solved the problem I was having with trying to bolt up calipers that were parallel to the rotors.

As far as the original question on this string is concerned, the only unknown is whether Speedway Engineering has adapters for the hub-to-rotor for 13" wheels.  I've not tried to source rotors smaller than 10.75 inches.

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: cossiepinto on March 31, 2012, 04:36:23 PM
I found a pic of the front hub with the rotor adapter, rotor, and caliper in place.  Mine are for fitting 15" wheels.  You can call them to see if they can make adapters for 13" wheels.

Slick setup. So was this custom or did you buy part numbers off the shelf to make this happen?
I also have wheels that i dont want to have to change, yet to go to a standard wilwood setup i would have to get 5 lug wheels. Alot of extra effort and money that i dont need to deal with.
Thanks for any help on this.
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EP73Pinto

The only reason I would like to convert to rear disc is to eliminate the difference in response time between disc and drum brakes. Drum brakes naturally respond quicker than disc brakes and are prone to lockup. The factory master cylinder is designed to counter this by sending brake fluid to the front brakes before the rear. I am changing to a reverse master cylinder pedal assembly. This assembly uses separate master cylinders for front and rear and doesn't account for the different response times. I'll look into the RX7 brakes. Thanks for all of your input.

cossiepinto

I found a pic of the front hub with the rotor adapter, rotor, and caliper in place.  Mine are for fitting 15" wheels.  You can call them to see if they can make adapters for 13" wheels.

cossiepinto

Try Speedway Engineering (different from Speedway Motors) at www.1speedway.com .  They sell a mini-stock full floater rear end for 8-inch components.  They also sell the same thing for 8 3/4 Mopar and Ford 9-inch.


I considered this rear end for my car, but decided instead on the mini quick-change with floating axles. 


They also sell rotor adapters for just about any configuration, will weld on your caliper brackets for you, etc. etc.


Lots of mini-stockers still use 13-inch wheels, per rule book, so they might just have the solution for you, so you can keep using your wheels.


They also sell hubs and rotor adapters for the Pinto spindle that match up to the floater.  I bought these for my car, too.  I'm attaching a pic of the wheel on my car, so you can see the hub's grease seal.


Good luck with your project!

dick1172762

Problem with a 71/73 Pinto is not the lack of brakes at the rear, but the lack of brakes at the front. Spend your money/time on a better set up front as they do 90% of your stoping on a race car when you've got both feet on the pedal. If you really must, look at a 85 (13B) RX7 rear brakes. I've raced RX7's with rear drums and rear disk, and it made little or no differance in the way it stopped.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.


Bigtimmay

Quote from: D.R.Ball on March 29, 2012, 07:38:01 PM
Use the parts off of a 1987-88 Thunderbird Turbocoupe and see if Carrie's still makes the bracket for the 8" rear end. Or try Speedway for one of theirs, also try Racer Walsh...See if you can find a copy of Car Craft with Turbo Joe's Poisonous Pinto they had a good write up of his Pinto with a parts list and sources.You still should be able to find a copy.

Good luck with this option and trying to use a 13 cause a 14 inch wheel wont even clear smallest you can fit is a 15
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

racer99


bbobcat75

if you are able to do and do so, post some pics!! thanks
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EP73Pinto

Thank you D.R.Ball. That's exactly the info I was looking for. :-)

D.R.Ball

Use the parts off of a 1987-88 Thunderbird Turbocoupe and see if Carrie's still makes the bracket for the 8" rear end. Or try Speedway for one of theirs, also try Racer Walsh...See if you can find a copy of Car Craft with Turbo Joe's Poisonous Pinto they had a good write up of his Pinto with a parts list and sources.You still should be able to find a copy.

racer99

I did a 7.5 with a traclok and discs in my old EP Pinto but we
ran 15x7s with cantilever sidewall slicks.
Worked really well.

To keep your 13s the rotors are going to be
small diameter for sure.
You might use the 7.5 disc components,fab a
caliper bracket to fit the 8 in. and turn down the rotors.

Or junkyard scrounge on some import stuff.

EP73Pinto

I have a 73 Pinto with 4 x 4 1/4 bolt pattern that is used only for auto-x and hill-climb's. I'm going to convert to a 8" rear end so I can put in a locker. I would also like to convert to rear disc brakes. I'm not really interested in converting to a five lug setup. I have too many sets of 4 lug wheels to consider that. Is there a ford that came with the 4 lug 8" rear end that would be easy to pull parts from. It's important that they will fit inside the 13" wheels as well. I've tried searching and couldn't find anybody who has done this. Thanks.