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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Barn Find!! 1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 miles Wow ,my 2nd Pinto

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dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on June 14, 2015, 05:50:36 PM
For the last few years I always try to buy stuff made in the U.S but every day it is getting harder ,  go and try to find shoes made here, so sad , I am willing to pay more to get things that last ,  lucky for now I have not run across parts made in China on the airplanes I work on  ???

We have Idaho Tool here and a Harbor Freight. When I go into Idaho Tool, and I have to stay focused on what I want because you can go broke in there LOL, I find American tools :D They have Chinese also, but a very very large section of American. It's like a gigantic tool truck, but less than tool truck prices because of the lower overhead I guess. The same tools for less than the truck. Like a power probe for way less than the truck.

You're luckly on the planes. What about parts? I ordered Raybestos parts and they were made in China. MOOG and some others are still made here, but most parts seem to come from China now :(
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

For the last few years I always try to buy stuff made in the U.S but every day it is getting harder ,  go and try to find shoes made here, so sad , I am willing to pay more to get things that last ,  lucky for now I have not run across parts made in China on the airplanes I work on  ???
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on June 14, 2015, 09:56:41 AM
Went and brought a small polishing wheel to do a few test spots on the pinto and the dam thing blew up, I really hate things made in China 🔫

I stopped buying Harbor Freight or Chinese stuff now. I buy American and pay the premium and they last with a lifetime warranty. At the shop, believe it or not, we have a pile that we bring back once a week for replacements. No more for me...
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Went and brought a small polishing wheel to do a few test spots on the pinto and the dam thing blew up, I really hate things made in China 🔫
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on June 13, 2015, 11:23:33 PM
Think I May have a after taste of mag polish tomorrow , 😷

LOL, you'll be glad you did :)
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Think I May have a after taste of mag polish tomorrow , 😷
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

Quote from: pinto_one on June 13, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
Now I want to take mine off and polish the wheels just like that ,   But then I will have repainted the car  :o

Just do it ;)
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

pinto_one

Now I want to take mine off and polish the wheels just like that ,   But then I will have repaint the car  :o
76 Pinto sedan V6 , 79 pinto cruiser wagon V6 soon to be diesel or 4.0

dianne

WOW that's some car!!! Sheesh, all the time and money all of us put into these and to find a survivor like that one is just awesome!

Congratulations on the find!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

pinto pope

Hey  thats  a  good looking  car.  I just  recently got a 80  Rallye cruising wagon and im  gonna needs the  stripes. Where  would  you think  i  look?  Cant seem  to  find  any. 

Pintopower

OMG that is great! The rallye is one of my favorite Pintos!
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

bbobcat75

1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

mrskydog

I was able to mount up tires to rims today. Nice NOS Tire SteelGards on Factory Slots. Looks good rides Great! Old tires were the org tires fro
1980. Here are a few Pics
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

v8junkie

73 Pinto Wagon
64 Falcon Futura Convertible

mrskydog

I was able to score on 4 NOS Tires. I found 4 Goodyear SteelGards. I will mount them on the Stock aluminum slots I found. Tire were Old stock and kept in a Temp controled area,wrapped and out of light. Soft and no checking. Here's a Pic....
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

v8junkie

All this talk of Schlitz! Okay, so some of you must remember the original Red Bull...No not the energy drink..lol
73 Pinto Wagon
64 Falcon Futura Convertible

mrskydog

Schlitz Brewery was americas #1 Brewer till about 1957 then Budweiser became #1 , Schlitz #2. The Brewery shut down in the Early 80's. THe Brand/Label was sold..the recipe is still being made and Sold by a smaller Brewery in US in certain areas. What killed Schlitz was when Miller came out with Lite Beer Label. Americas taste had changed, to people wanting a lite body Beer........Kirk
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

sedandelivery

I know this is hardly Pinto related but when did Schlitz go out of business, where they bought out?

78squirewagon

Quote from: mrskydog on April 12, 2012, 08:04:59 AM
Yep, that is a Schlitz Golden Girl Lamp. My dad worked at Schlitz in Milwaukee for 25 years ,and I worked  there in 1977-79 at the Brewery Milwaukee as a Plant Hospitality and Tour Guide. What a Great Job!  No one ever believes me but yes...there was
3 Beer breaks a Day, and free Beer. Lunch Room had short fill Beers Free. After work ,I was the Bartender in the Brown Bottle at the Brewery> It was open for 1Hr. for the White Collar workers,and yes Free Beer.............100% True.....Kirk

The basis for Lavern and Shirly LOL!!!! A few of the buildings have been torn down but a lot of them are now expensive offices. The main offices are really cool and still have the original woodwork from way back.
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

mrskydog

Yep, that is a Schlitz Golden Girl Lamp. My dad worked at Schlitz in Milwaukee for 25 years ,and I worked  there in 1977-79 at the Brewery Milwaukee as a Plant Hospitality and Tour Guide. What a Great Job!  No one ever believes me but yes...there was
3 Beer breaks a Day, and free Beer. Lunch Room had short fill Beers Free. After work ,I was the Bartender in the Brown Bottle at the Brewery> It was open for 1Hr. for the White Collar workers,and yes Free Beer.............100% True.....Kirk
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

78squirewagon

Is that an old Schlitz Beer sign in the picture? I have seen her all over the place here in Milwaukee and when I was working security at the old plant which is now a business park  :)
1978 Squire wagon,red, 69000 and counting original miles

1978 Hatchback, red (built four days after  the Squire)

mrskydog

Here are a few pictures under the hood. I will get under the hood and start to detail it out next...Kirk
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

mrskydog

I guess your right, it does look like Space Invaders. I happen to have one the real Arcade Machines in my Bar room.
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

75bobcatv6

very nice car. tho i do think someone is playing space invaders with your back seat pattern lol


mrskydog

Finished polishing and waxing,just need to detail the rest. Few pic,s from today sunny Easter.




Pictures of Rims are of the ones that I just picked up at the Columbus Ohio Show, Nice set for spare set ,mounted up with 13 BF T/A 195/60/13.
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

v8junkie

Gorgeous car! You should go buy a lottery ticket while you're so lucky!
73 Pinto Wagon
64 Falcon Futura Convertible

mrskydog

Thanks for all the nice comments, its going to a good all Ford Home were it will be left in its original state. I will keep everyone updated , and try to hook-up at at a meet soon if possible. Still thankful to receive a nice Old all Stock piece of History! I Love it.......Kirk...  ;D
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: Mark B on March 06, 2012, 10:17:38 AM
Im really glad another Pinto enthusiast picked it up. 

ME TOO! I saw the ad a couple days ago on craigslist (it was/is still listed) and was just about ready to drop everything, drive the 700 miles/14 hour drive to go get (man I didn't want to but... Rallye Baby!) as if I didn't have enough problems already with all the cars I own... man, I'm sick... but still lovin' it

Enjoy! the new ride  8)
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

Mark B

Im really glad another Pinto enthusiast picked it up.  I had(and still have) a 1980 Rallye that was identical except red interior that was my first car.  Mine had been beaten to a pulp and is rusted out and just a parts car now (remember I was 16 when I got it).  I seen this and I couldn't stop drooling.  If I had money, I would have been all over it.  I was trying to talk the wifey into letting me get it when I was emailed that it was sold.  Really glad someone on here got it so I can at least drool over photos!  Take care of her man!  What a great find and great purchase!  Looking forward to any and all photos posted of this gem.