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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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steveseaton

Well I guess i"ll have to list the Sprint again in a few days due to ebay cancelled the sale because of a suspicious buyer. I guess that may have been a good thing for me. I was surprised to see it get over 3700 hits and so may watching it.
1979 Pinto Pro Street. 351w, dual 4s, T5, 4 link ,9", Detroit, 4.30, 31x18.50 MT pro
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blupinto

I saw it there and figured it was yours. If finances were better I would snap it up! I would love to have a Sprint.  Oh, to have a Pinto with white interior and be a '72... I hope someone worthy of it will get it and restore it to its former glory.  :)
One can never have too many Pintos!

steveseaton

Well the Sprint is up for sale on eBay today. I am building another car pro street and don't have the time to do two cars so I have decided to allow someone else the opportunity to own the Sprint. I hope it gets a good home.
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steveseaton

After a lot of thought, I am going to sell my 72 Sprint. I was going to V8 and tub but it is to rare and have no interest in doing a stock restoration at this time. It is in good shape for its age having been stored for the past 14 years. I removed the engine/trans and carpet/heater to prep for cleaning/paint. Floor has been cleaned and coated with POR15. I move it out of the shop and started on my 79 to tub but will need a few parts for it before it is done.
1979 Pinto Pro Street. 351w, dual 4s, T5, 4 link ,9", Detroit, 4.30, 31x18.50 MT pro
2013 Ram 4x4
2005 F550 4x4
2016 Polaris General 1000
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blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

steveseaton

Sorry I haven't posted any pics yet. I moved it to the shop today and put it on jack stands. The Marti report also shows that my Sprint has 2.0, c4, a/c, 3.55 gears, and KB int. The coolest part was it was 1 of 22 that was ordered with the luggage rack (removed). I'm still thinking about putting in my 351w and  t5. I thought about putting it up for sale or trade, but I have no idea what to ask for it. Maybe if I get some pics on here someone could give me there thoughts on value.
1979 Pinto Pro Street. 351w, dual 4s, T5, 4 link ,9", Detroit, 4.30, 31x18.50 MT pro
2013 Ram 4x4
2005 F550 4x4
2016 Polaris General 1000
4300 John Deere 4x4

blupinto

Well, what's special about a Cruising Wagon, aside from the porthole panels? A Stallion model aside from the horse-head decals? The ESS aside from the markings and black-out pieces?

Steveseaton, if I had the money and space I would buy that Sprint off of you. I'm not crazy about white cars, but I do like everything about the Sprint. Neat white-and-blue-with-red-piping interior, Grabber Blue accents, Runabout... oh, and there's the fact that it's a '72 model... same year I was born...  please please PLEASE don't cut this up!!! I do hope you find one with lots of go-fast potential. :)
One can never have too many Pintos!

johnbigman2011

Other than being a Pinto for the olympics. What else is special about it.
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steveseaton

 After reading all of the replies on the Sprint I think cutting it would not be a good thing. I just received the Marti report I ordered to get more info on my car from the Ford database and is pretty neat. It was built 5 days behind schedule. Cool info! I guess the Sprint will go up for sale as soon as I get some pics and set a price. I just hope i can find another that is in as good shape as this one to build. http://www.fordpinto.com/Smileys/default/smiley.gif
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r4pinto

Quote from: blupinto on January 08, 2012, 08:48:14 PM
Welcome Fuddy-Duddy. Meet me, Stick-In-The-Mud!  ;D
I like Stick-In-The-Mud Becky. She & her Pinto have the same personality... Firey lol  ;)
Matt Manter
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blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on January 08, 2012, 08:48:14 PM
Welcome Fuddy-Duddy. Meet me, Stick-In-The-Mud!  ;D

We're a real pair, aren't we???
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Welcome Fuddy-Duddy. Meet me, Stick-In-The-Mud!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on January 08, 2012, 01:39:05 PM
Some may want more, and some of us are happy with stock.  Maybe I'm a stick in the mud for wanting stock, but that's what I remember as a kid and that's what I like.  I agree- they (stock or otherwise) shouldn't sit and rot. Mine don't (well, two of them don't. The '74 is at least in the garage). I'm a firm believer in utilizing what you have.  What fun is a car that just sits pretty and doesn't get driven or puts smiles on peoples' faces (even after my Close Encounter With The A*hole Kind yesterday two of the police officers were going on about my car! I know a lot of folks here like fast, powerful Pintos and nothing else will do, but to me, the smiles and happy exclamations from people who remember the Pintos in their lives way back when are well worth the slow accelerations and having to put up with those #**%^ 2-piece seatbelts.  ;D



Well said.  I've seen some beautifully modified cars... and while I can appreciate them, they simply aren't my cup of tea.  But then, I used to build all my model kits bone stock when I was a kid too!  I guess I'm just an old fuddy-duddy.  lol
Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Some may want more, and some of us are happy with stock.  Maybe I'm a stick in the mud for wanting stock, but that's what I remember as a kid and that's what I like.  I agree- they (stock or otherwise) shouldn't sit and rot. Mine don't (well, two of them don't. The '74 is at least in the garage). I'm a firm believer in utilizing what you have.  What fun is a car that just sits pretty and doesn't get driven or puts smiles on peoples' faces (even after my Close Encounter With The A*hole Kind yesterday two of the police officers were going on about my car! I know a lot of folks here like fast, powerful Pintos and nothing else will do, but to me, the smiles and happy exclamations from people who remember the Pintos in their lives way back when are well worth the slow accelerations and having to put up with those #**%^ 2-piece seatbelts.  ;D

One can never have too many Pintos!

beaner

stock is ok for a daily driver but hey we are americans we want more ;D

brad :)

Bigtimmay

Quote from: blupinto on January 02, 2012, 08:38:30 PM
But the poster that called stock Pintos junk  :)

Except for I didn't say pintos are stock junk I said we all would be driving stock junk as in every car on the road. An well I'm avid in car modifications I cant stand to see a fully restored to original car that just sits and does absolutely nothing. I wish I had the cash I would buy all 3 kinds of the sprint cars and turn all 3 into 1500hp nelson racing powered prostreet cars that still look like stock sprints minus the better stances and sweet wheels. Plus even with the 1500hp the only one that could even get better mileage in stock form would be the pinto cause those nelson racing engines pull 22 mpg.

I'm not saying this stuff to piss people off Its just my opinion that a car shouldn't just sit around doing nothing just because people want it stock so it gets tossed on a back burner to sit for years. Most of the time when this happens they are outside rotting not in a garage like they should be. More then likely if a person wanting to buy it to do something other then stock things with it don't buy it and utilize it another person will and prolly in the end will scrap it or let it just go to hell.Then no one atleast gets the joy of owning it.
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pintoman2.0

So it isn't the same as the other two. Smaller and on the c-pillar. I bet you cant get them anymore and that is why the one Beaner posted doesn't have one?

P

beaner

its on the pinto look above the hood scoop of the maverick  ;)

brad :)

pintoman2.0

Beaner,

In the picture of the three I can see on the rear quarter of the Mustang and Maveric, the shield shaped American flag. Weren't they on the pintos as well?

P

blupinto

Might as well. It's no longer stock.
One can never have too many Pintos!

beaner

is it ok to buy one modded then mod it some more?

brad :)

blupinto

I'm totally with Matt on this one. It seems there's more souped-up, turbocharged, tubbed-out, hot-rodded Pintos than stock ones. Yes I'm an avid fan of the factory or dealer-made Pinto. When there's a rare edition model on top of that I'll always vote to restore it to its original form. Anybody can paint blue trim on a white '72 Runabout and even put the red-white-blue interior in it like a Sprint... but it won't be a Sprint.

Oh, and no, MY cars aren't "stock junk".

But the poster that called stock Pintos junk is correct in saying that it is your car to do with what you want to. I just think it would be a shame to see a Sprint ruined. In fact, I hate to see ANY early model Pintos modified. Call it sentimental hogwash or nostalgia overdose, but I remember the early ones fondly- especially their distinctive putter sounds.  :)
One can never have too many Pintos!

beaner

the pinto and stang are his the mav is from the maverick site his is still being worked on

brad :)

beaner

see if this works

brad :)

beaner

you should be at home playing on the web like the rest of us :D

brad :)

johnbigman2011

Man, I wish my company would let me see photobucket pictures. I miss out on all the good pics.
1972 Trunk Model..... Yeller Feller
1979 Wagon Turbo.... 85 2.3 Turbo
1923 T- Bucket ...... 2.0 Pinto Powered
F 250 Redneck Lincoln .... Pinto Picker upper

beaner


johnbigman2011

Just imagine having the whole set in the garage. That's something that they used a Pinto to help commemorate the Olympics.
1972 Trunk Model..... Yeller Feller
1979 Wagon Turbo.... 85 2.3 Turbo
1923 T- Bucket ...... 2.0 Pinto Powered
F 250 Redneck Lincoln .... Pinto Picker upper

r4pinto

Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress