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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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r4pinto

Just got back from a test drive & it turns out I made the right choice. After replacing the bad rear leaf spring it fixed the rear axle being too far forward on the driver side but it did create an alignment issue. The car now pulls a bit so before I take the car on any major drives I gotta get that fixed.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

I hope all you guys enjoyed the show. It is 12:43 PM & I just got done with fixing the rear end issue. It is all aligned but by the time I got all cleaned up  I would be there for about an hour before I had to turn around & come home. I just couldn't justify the drive for one hour. The money isn't there anyways, as I don't even really have money to put gas in my daily driver, let alone the Pinto.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

phils toys

russ sorry you can not make it  i was looking forward to meeting you again. i will see everyone else in a few hrsi will be pulling out very soon.
phil
2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

russosborne

well, I am not going to be able to make it after all. Financial issues just popped up. We will be fine next weekend, but right now I am not sure I even have enough gas to get to work this week.
Hope you all have fun.
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

rallytwo

Scott Hamilton,
Thanks for sending the shipment of COOL Pinto goodies to give out at "The Ohio Get Together". I received them yesterday (Friday).  I will be sure to give them out for those Pinto attendees at the show tomorrow. I know everyone will love them.
Thanks for your support from the nationals!
Rob

rallytwo

Matt,
You should have some fun every once in a while. I think you should listen to her and come.
Also, we just received some cool Pinto things to give out not only from the Pinto Stampede people but also from Scott Hamilton of the PCCA nationals.
Rob

rallytwo

Dick,
I do completely understand and hope to have you the following year!!
Look for pics of the event here on this website soon after.
Thanks again,
Rob

r4pinto

Oh this is gonna be a tough one but I am doing what I can to get there. I have been told by quite a few that in my current predicament it is not a good idea as things are tight but my councelor thinks I need to take a day to just have fun no matter what. I'm gonna listen to her.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pintoman1972

Hi Rob,

Well, as I said from the start, bringing THE BEAST to your Ohio event would depend on the weather.  Unfortunately, as I only have an open trailer, the weather this weekend will prevent me from attending.

Wishing you a great event and looking forward to hearing lots of positive things about the Ohio Get Together.

Dick

rallytwo

FORD PINTO 40TH ANNIVERSARY CAR SHOW "THE OHIO GET TOGETHER"

THE PINTO STAMPEDE PEOPLE HAVE PROVIDED US WITH GREAT PINTO GIFTS FOR THE GOODIE BAGS AND WE HAVE SOME REALLY COOL DOOR PRIZES. THE TROPHIES HAVE ARRIVED AND LOOK AWESOME!

THANKS FOR ALL WHO HAVE PRE-REGISTERED. FEEL FREE TO REGISTER AT THE DOOR IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO YET.

WILL SEE YOU ALL AT THE SHOW RAIN OR SHINE!!
THANKS,
ROB  216-320-1613,  216-408-1906, RALLYTWO@AOL.COM

rallytwo

Kenny of Bienna, Ohio,
Thanks for contacting me regarding the Ford Pinto 40th Anniversary Car Show.. "The Ohio Get Together"
Will be great to see your newly purchased '76 Squire wagon at the show!!
We will have DJ, door prizes, goodie bags, dash plaques, and trophies.
The show is this Sunday, Sept. 11th from noon-5pm at the Chilis Restaurant Macedonia, Ohio rain or shine.
See you there!
Rob

rallytwo

Brian (Cookieboystoys),
I received the goodies yesterday for the Pinto owners registered for the Ford Pinto 40th anniversary car show, "The Ohio Get Together" this coming weekend, Sunday, Sept. 11th Noon-5pm at the Chilis Restaurant Macedonia, Ohio.  What a surprise this will be for the Pinto owners!!! They will love it!!!
For all that are coming you will love the gifts Brian has provided us for the show!!
See you all there!
Rob
rallytwo@aol.com
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pinkyjee

I like this forum...excellent info. discovered it on yahoo. will save it as a favorite.

dga57

Hi Russ!  I'm flattered by your nice comments!  I was looking forward to meeting you too, but I'm sure our paths will cross someday.  The reason I can't come next weekend is a family issue.  About two weeks after I got home from Carlisle, my handicapped (Spina Bifida) sister became very ill.  She was a patient at the University of Virginia Medical Center for 17 days and had five surgical procedures while she was there.  Since then, she has been recuperating and rehabilitating in a local nursing/rehab facility.  For all of Beth's 51 years, our mother has been her primary caregiver but now Mom is in the mild to moderate stages of Alzheimers.  She is no longer able to drive and yet she becomes quite upset if she isn't able to visit my sister daily, so it has fallen to you-know-who to get her there every day.  When the Ohio get-together was first announced, I thought perhaps Beth would be home by then and my wife and I would be free to have a weekend getaway.  Unfortunately, while she's recovering quite well, the target date for her discharge home is October 15th and I was just informed of this at a care plan conference last week.  So... although I can finally (after eleven weeks) see a light at the end of the tunnel, any idea of taking a trip anywhere before then is simply out of the question.  In the meantime, I hope you'll still be able to make it, Russ.  If I know nothing else from my trip to Carlisle in June, it's that feelings of depression are darned near impossible when you're with a group of Pintos and their owners!  Go and have a blast!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

russosborne

Darn it, Dwayne. Meeting you was one of the big reasons for me to go. But I totally understand about other stuff being more important than a car show. It's happened to me a lot over the years too.
Still hoping to go, I need some more depression in my life right now. Heck, I almost smiled once last week. Nothing like being among a bunch of people who have something you don't anymore to make you feel good. :-/
Got to see where we are financially this weekend. My wife gets her first check Friday, but knowing that, we spent a bit too much last weekend on stuff we had been putting off. So things are a tad tight until I get paid in a week and a half. Of course she told me we spent too much AFTER we spent it. I let her do the checkbook and bills, sometimes she doesn't deduct stuff right away.
I can't even afford to get the T-shirt made I wanted saying "Yes, I am the idiot who gave away his Pinto for free." Thought that would be better than a name tag. :-)
Russ
In Glendale, Arizona

RIP Casey, Mallory, Abby, and Sadie. We miss you.

79 Pinto ESS fully caged fun car. In progress. 8inch 4.10 gears. 351C and a T5 waiting to go in.

rallytwo

Really hoping you and Harold II can make it!!
Let me know if I can help in any way.
Rob

r4pinto

Not sure if I'm gonna be able to go now. I gotta take a very close look at my finances to see if I can afford to put gas in the car. I have missed it for one reason or another so needless to say if I cannot make it I'm not gonna be a happy camper. I'll know more later in the week.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

rallytwo


dga57

Quote from: rallytwo on September 04, 2011, 09:06:08 PM
Dwayne,
Sorry to hear this but hope you will be able to come next year for sure.
If your plans should change last minute this year, we would love to have you.
Thanks,
Rob

Thanks, Rob - can't imagine any chance of things changing by next weekend but if by some miracle they did, I'd be on my way to Ohio in a heartbeat!  Let us know how it all goes!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rallytwo

Dwayne,
Sorry to hear this but hope you will be able to come next year for sure.
If your plans should change last minute this year, we would love to have you.
Thanks,
Rob

dga57

I was really hoping to make it there this year, as it's the first time it has ever fallen on my weekend off from work!  That, and the fact that my wife and the Pinto share their September 11th birthday!  Unfortunately, other family responsibilities that I had hoped were going be resolved by now are not, and we're not going to be free to travel.  Hope you have a wonderful show and maybe I'll be able to make it next year!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

rallytwo

Rene of Grosse Ile, Michigan,
Thanks for contacting me to pre-register for the Ford Pinto 40th Anniversary Car Show, "The Ohio Get Together". I will be looking forward to seeing your 1973 1600cc Pinto!!
We are having DJ, trophies, door prizes, goodie bags, and dash plaques.
The show is Sunday Sept. 11th at the Chilis Restaurant, Macedonia, Ohio from Noon-5pm.
Stay on for the Sunday night evening cruise-in at the Chilis from 5-8pm same day for a two-fer!!
Feel free to contact me anytime regarding any information about the show.
Thanks again!
Rob (216)320-1613
rallytwo@aol.com

rallytwo

Tommy of Dayton, Ohio,
Thanks for contacting me to pre-register for the Ford Pinto 40th Anniversary Car Show, "The Ohio Get Together". It will be great to have your 1980 302 CI V8 at the show!!
We are having DJ, trophies, door prizes, goodie bags and dash plaques.
The show is Sunday Sept. 11th, Noon-5pm at the Chilis Restaurant Macedonia, Ohio
Feel free to contact me anytime for more info. and see you there!!
Rob (216)320-1613
rallytwo@aol.com

rallytwo

CobraBob,
Loved the pics and we would love to have the Mustang II's at the show!!!!!
Also, we would love to have your Cobra!!! Very Sharp! Really liked the 3  generations of cars.
Feel free to contact me anytime for info. regarding the show.
We will have DJ, trophies, goodie bags, dash plaques, and door prizes.
We have multiple Pintos pre-registered from 5 states. You can register at the door also.
The show is free to all Sunday Sept. 11th, Chilis Restaurant Macedonia, Ohio, Noon-5pm. Stay on for the weekly cruise-in at Chilis from 5-8pm for a two-fer same day.
Thanks for contacting me,
Rob (216)320-1613
rallytwo@aol.com


Cobrabob8

Although, who knows, maybe I will stop by in my 5.0 convertible?
Cobrabob.
Drive a Ford or nothing at all !

Cobrabob8

I would like to get our local group of Mustang II guys to show up but they are more interested in the all Mustang show at Montrose Ford the same day :(
Cobrabob.

Drive a Ford or nothing at all !

dga57

Great article!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

Cookieboystoys

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

rallytwo

Check out the auto section of the Cleveland Plain Dealer today, Sept. 1st promoting the Ford Pinto 40th Anniversary car show, "The Ohio Get Together". There is a HALF PAGE story and photo of 3 members Pintos': Jim O'Reilly, Michelle Garvey, and Rob Smarsch in front of the Liberty Ford, Solon, Ohio dealership, our sponsor. The title of the article is "Celebrating Wounded Warriors on two important anniversaries". The show is Sunday Sept. 11th at the Chilis Restaurant, Macedonia, Ohio Noon-5pm. We will have DJ, trophies, door prizes, goodie bags, and dash plaques. Our sponsors are Summit Racing, McDonalds, Liberty Ford Solon, Ohio, Chilis, Applebees, O'Reilly Auto Parts and more. We are expecting a great turnout and already have many Pintos pre-registered. We have a special surprise for those cars that pre-register.
Contact
Rob Smarsch, 216-320-1613
rallytwo@aol.com

r4pinto

I'll look for one out here. There has gotta be a location that sells it somewhere around me.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress