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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dianne

Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

Reeves1


dianne

Quote from: 76hotrodpinto on February 05, 2015, 11:28:21 AM
I have a friend working in a big dollar shop. He can run things for me after hours, when needed. They have a nice 5 axis water jet. I can just sit and watch that thing all night. Amazing technology!

It's pretty cool stuff and I'm working on the CNC side and making coding changes to some of it. The CNC Milling is awesome too, I want to start that next.
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: dianne on February 05, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
LOL ahahaha I should have a 4x4 CNC machine up and running soon! You can see them at: http://nampamachines.com - and yeah I'm going to be making sparks also!!! LOL

I'll have to post pictures of me learning welding next Saturday LOL

I have a friend working in a big dollar shop. He can run things for me after hours, when needed. They have a nice 5 axis water jet. I can just sit and watch that thing all night. Amazing technology!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dianne

Quote from: 76hotrodpinto on February 05, 2015, 10:19:52 AM
It would just be a pic of me and a torch. I don't have anything cnc. No, wait... I AM CNC!

LOL ahahaha I should have a 4x4 CNC machine up and running soon! You can see them at: http://nampamachines.com - and yeah I'm going to be making sparks also!!! LOL

I'll have to post pictures of me learning welding next Saturday LOL
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: dianne on February 05, 2015, 06:58:59 AM
Hey, can you take pictures? I'm starting to build CNC plasma cutters. I would like to keep a small shop busy building something. I could do work for Micron here, it's not fun. I have that shop and CNC Plasma cutter up in about a month. I don't have a bender, but will get one if I need. Right now we're building plasma cutters for Nampa Machines and nexSteel will be where we make stuff. We are doing a CNC milling machine also. I am buying a steel brake first. I love the idea of this if I can get templates :)

Thanks 76!

It would just be a pic of me and a torch. I don't have anything cnc. No, wait... I AM CNC!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dianne

Quote from: 76hotrodpinto on February 04, 2015, 10:06:39 PM
It's fiddly business. Especially out of a jig. It's easier when you have the car in house. I'd plasma cut the plates too. There can be a lot of inner and outer radius sectioning in tight fit situations. And getting collectors right takes some practice. Just learn, live, love your tig.

Hey, can you take pictures? I'm starting to build CNC plasma cutters. I would like to keep a small shop busy building something. I could do work for Micron here, it's not fun. I have that shop and CNC Plasma cutter up in about a month. I don't have a bender, but will get one if I need. Right now we're building plasma cutters for Nampa Machines and nexSteel will be where we make stuff. We are doing a CNC milling machine also. I am buying a steel brake first. I love the idea of this if I can get templates :)

Thanks 76!
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

It's fiddly business. Especially out of a jig. It's easier when you have the car in house. I'd plasma cut the plates too. There can be a lot of inner and outer radius sectioning in tight fit situations. And getting collectors right takes some practice. Just learn, live, love your tig.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

dianne

Quote from: 76hotrodpinto on February 04, 2015, 01:12:58 PM

If you have an old set, I can replicate them. I can do them in stainless too!

That's a lot of work and time. Bending those and welding and cutting. I could probably plasma cut the plate. I wonder if I could build header? LOL That would be awesome, Stainless header :D
Vehicles:

- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

FORD: Federal Ownership Respectfully Denied

76hotrodpinto

I am both odd, and in the states. At least one, that I know of.

Awesome car, just thought it would be great to be able to contribute something nice for it. But doing it from here would mean having to ship me something that fit, and jigging it up.
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Reeves1

Odds are, you are in the States ?

I have a local guy building mine. He has built many from scratch. I'm good to go.

76hotrodpinto

Quote from: Reeves1 on February 04, 2015, 08:45:36 AM
BOSS 302 stuff is hard to find and rare....

Engine builder could not find any 2" headers. Had to use ones with 1 3/4" tubes - which chokes this engine big time.
He also did the dyno with a 750 DP Holley. Way under carbed.

I do not have the TQ numbers (yet).
But the engine "quit" building power at 6500 RPM -header/carb issues.

Came in at 510 HP - so far.

(hope it's not the custom cam)

After I get new headers built (April or May) and get an 850 DP (min) on it, it should be well over 550 HP.

Unless something (more) goes wrong, picking it up this morning.......



If you have an old set, I can replicate them. I can do them in stainless too!
1976 half hatch 2.3 turbo w/t5.

Reeves1

BOSS 302 stuff is hard to find and rare....

Engine builder could not find any 2" headers. Had to use ones with 1 3/4" tubes - which chokes this engine big time.
He also did the dyno with a 750 DP Holley. Way under carbed.

I do not have the TQ numbers (yet).
But the engine "quit" building power at 6500 RPM -header/carb issues.

Came in at 510 HP - so far.

(hope it's not the custom cam)

After I get new headers built (April or May) and get an 850 DP (min) on it, it should be well over 550 HP.

Unless something (more) goes wrong, picking it up this morning.......

Reeves1

Engine done.
Pick it up Feb 2/15.

Been a long haul getting this done. Not to mention a truck load of cash.

Much to do after it's installed. Plus another truck load of cash.

Reeves1

Quote from: mightyss1 on October 20, 2014, 03:49:04 PM
holy cow, you've done some really nice and(expensive) work to ur pinto!! you have more $ in the first engine build than my whole car after the new paint(i hope). well, im sure its a labour of love..right? ;)


More of a "Got this far & cannot quit" sort of thing.

Gave the (newest) engine builder a dead line of Dec. 20th to have the engine done.
He didn't make it.

Gave him another dead line : engine has to be in the car by Jan 4th - or yet another season will be lost.

Engine not ready.

Too much $ into it to stop.

I've started collecting all I'll need for a 2nd (car) build. Have most of what I need for it now.

mightyss1

holy cow, you've done some really nice and(expensive) work to ur pinto!! you have more $ in the first engine build than my whole car after the new paint(i hope). well, im sure its a labour of love..right? ;)

Reeves1

The old adjustable Koni shocks will be replaced with 90/10s......when/if I find a set.

The original black powder coat was tough !
Tried paint stripper - wouldn't touch it.
Started sand blasting & knew it would be hours & truck loads of sand.
Took them to town to a place called "The Head Doctor". He put them in his hot tank.
Picked them up the next day & they were 100% clean to bare metal.
He didn't charge me for it. We did some wheeling/dealing in the past. He is the fellow I got the closed chamber heads from.

Pinto5.0

I wish I had a local powdercoater. I'd do everything in sight. It looks awesome  8)
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Apparently , the theme is blue  ;D
Had them powder coated....



Reeves1

Read the two print outs yesterday.
Too many different parts to mix & match.

I was off work a bit early so I called Wilwood. Every one busy so left my phone number.
Of course....they didn't call back.

I've put the kit I have up for sale here in AB first, as I offered to eat the tax & shipping.

Thanks for the parts offer, but I'll leave the ones I have on.
The tie rod ends on yours would be bigger as well.

Pinto5.0

The drawing for my kit looks correct.

http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-10440-BD

The drawing for the 71-73 kit looks like it bolts in place of the dust shields

http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/BrakeKitsProdFront.aspx?itemno=140-1013-B

I have a pair of stock 77 spindles I can send you with the oil pan if you want to try them. I keep hearing they bolt right on early cars with the only difference being a 3/4" ride height change.




'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Printed out the first pages of each PDF for both sets.
Right one is supposed to be kit # 140-1013.
Look at the caliper bracket.
My head isn't wrapping around how it's the right one, if you look at a disk brake spindle on a 72.
No time to read right now between 3 & 4 AM.
I'll read at work, where I have more time  ;D

Pinto5.0

LOL, yeah the simple stuff gets us every time...
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Just checked.
If you scroll to the bottom of the Wilwood page there is a PDF.
Clicked on it & scrolled down to page 2 & it shows the parts numbers.
I'll compare later.

Thanks for pointing that out....I didn't think of that ! (another DUH ! Must be getting old ! LOL !)

Pinto5.0

It should be the only difference. Can Wilwood supply a list with part numbers to compare both kits?
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Wilwood got back to me & said a person can buy just the caliper brackets.
However, he did not say if that was the only difference in the kits.

I'm going to (try) and sell mine. Get the whole (right) kit.

Pinto5.0

I have the Wilwood 140-10440-BD kit for mine. It was going on the 76 wagon but now I plan to use it on the 72 so I guess I'm in the same boat except my set can't use any other caliper brackets. I may try the late spindles on it.

'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

DUH !

I normally double & triple check stuff.....
Was told the Wilwood brake kit I needed is kit # 140-11017

Wrong !

Was assembling the right side swing arms etc & test fit.....and the first part is the caliper bracket.
Not hard to see it wasn't even close.

Everything else seems to fit right....maybe just need the other bracket from the right kit , # 140-1013 ?
I'll e-mail Wilwood to find out.

If I have to buy the whole kit # 140-1013.......I'll have the 74 - 78 kit up for sale soon.

or

Maybe someone was planning to do the 74 - 78 brake up-grade....they could buy my kit, send to me. I would then send this kit to you. Even give the person a break on the price ?

74 PintoWagon

Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

Reeves1

Brake lines before & after.