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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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GremenLogan1

I agree we must take prior concern on the selection and it's conditions too...I have almost check all of them :)
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jeremysdad

Quote from: Reeves1 on September 01, 2013, 06:49:39 AM
"Worked" on the car yesterday........was walking by it to the shop fridge & spotted 3 rocks in the FL tire......again. They have been bugging me for months & always "too busy" to remove them.
Guess they finally bugged me too much, so took them out.



Building a 20' x 15' storage building. Need it to store car parts and tons of other stuff in the shop.

That alone was good for at least a .1 second drop in ET, right?

On a serious note...it amazes me that the 'trained monkeys' at most major tire retailers don't realize that they should remove as many rocks/other stowaways as possible before balancing a tire. Hey...it's a rock. If it finally dislodges at freeway speed, there went your balance. On the flip side...stupid rocks! :) lol

Reeves1

Haven't had the car out with the T-10. Engine builder took me to the cleaners & sent it back ready to blow up. Have to get it re-built......again.

After I get the new 20' x 15' storage barn built & loads of stuff moved out of the shop, I'll get back to work on the cars.

and

Find out if the U - joint can be used.

fozzy

Quote from: Reeves1 on April 27, 2013, 10:21:57 AM
The Super T-10 is a better trans than the Ford RUG trans. Tougher.
Plus I like shifting !
Top end/cruising speed is better than a 3 auto.

How is the top end/cruising speed better with a T-10 than with an auto?

Did you ever come up with a solution to removing the cable steering and getting a universal joint to fit the steering rack?

Fozzy

Reeves1

"Worked" on the car yesterday........was walking by it to the shop fridge & spotted 3 rocks in the FL tire......again. They have been bugging me for months & always "too busy" to remove them.
Guess they finally bugged me too much, so took them out.



Building a 20' x 15' storage building. Need it to store car parts and tons of other stuff in the shop.

Reeves1

Making it stronger......  ;D


Pinto5.0

I prefer rowing gears myself. Unless I'm into drag racing for the money it's too boring dropping it in drive.
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Reeves1

The Super T-10 is a better trans than the Ford RUG trans. Tougher.
Plus I like shifting !
Top end/cruising speed is better than a 3 auto.

FairWarning1990

I was with you on every single choice until the transmission (if you held a gun to my head, that's the only negative I can think of here). A little too much unnecessary work for my tastes. Sit back and let the tranny do it's job, man!  I'm sitting here like the voice in the wilderness screaming "C4 BABY"!

Reeves1

Duh ! Couldn't stop myself ! Got it for $157.37
Drilled for NOS. Can plug holes or use.
Using would mean a bit of difference in the new engine build though.






Reeves1

What can I say..... I like Ford blue  ;D








Reeves1

Will not be using a back plate. I have a couple ideas to make the ones I made work OK. I hope....

Got the shifter figured out & adjusted on the Super T-10. Ended up with extra rods & a few other parts. Had to use the shifter arm (trans) for reverse from a Hurst shifter set up. The handle for the Long Shifter is small & I have big hands, so used a new Hurst shifter handle. Has the button for the line lock.
Now to clean up the trans & paint.
I picked up a sand blaster , but it plugs up fast. Glass that came with it is too big. I think. Going to pick smaller sand up, to do the trans mount & paint it as well.






79prostreet

Reeves, I don't have a real good picture of my set up but I'll post what I have. The mid plate is at most 1/8 , so motor ahead 1/8 or tranny back 1/8 not to big of a deal for the added support it gives. Bud
79prostreet

Reeves1

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on April 10, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
I'm not too sure horizontal mounts on a flat plane are gonna handle the stress.

That was a question in my head as well. I was thinking a flat 1/4" bar welded onto the left plate up to a header bolt may tie it in better ? To a head bolt would be better, depending on where the header tube will be ?


QuoteDo you plan on a mid plate?

Was not planning on one. I'd have to move the engine forward to do so.

79prostreet

Do you plan on a mid plate? 
79prostreet

Pinto5.0

I'm not too sure horizontal mounts on a flat plane are gonna handle the stress.
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Reeves1

Built (finally) motor mounts.
Plates are about 5 1/2" wide.
Angle iron will be welded to the frame rails after the pinion angle is checked/adjusted at the trans mount.
Pads are two firm ones & are 1/2" thick, on each side.
The motor pedestal bolts are 7/16" & was wondering if there is any reason they cannot be drilled out & tapped for 1/2" bolts.
To me, that is the weak point.
There will be a safety cable from the front of the engine to the frame, left side.
There are 10s of thousands of ways to make motor mounts. Thought this easy & simple way was the way to go for my application.
Plates off the engine are 3/8" thick. Angle iron is 2" & 1/4" thick. 1/2" bolts.
I'll use blue lock tight when the final installation is done.All bolts are grade 8.


Part of the reason was to make the header build a bit more simple. There will be little movement of the engine, so clearance for this will not be much of an issue. If you see flaws or weak points, let me know your thoughts.

I still have grinding / trim work to do later. I have a small sand blaster to clean up the parts before painting.












Pinturbo75

Quote from: Reeves1 on March 23, 2013, 03:28:16 PM
Seems every time I'm home on days of it gets more torn down. I look forward to the day it starts going in the other direction !

i feel ya on that one..... just yanked the engine and tranny for  i think the 6th time now on my red pinto....
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

Reeves1

Ignore the wire mess. It will all be done much better than what was there to begin with !
Seems every time I'm home on days of it gets more torn down. I look forward to the day it starts going in the other direction !

Reeves1

Had a couple days off so started on fitting the shifter.
It is a shifter by Long Shifters. In line.
I still have some trimming to do. Ran out of time.





Note how it is line with a persons right shoulder.
Also note the rust where a persons feet sit. It is light though. I'll clean this up & use POR 15 to make nice. Will also use a new style sound deadner , that I've sen people on this forum use. The "fuzzy" stuff (factory) will get tossed.

entropy

This car is going to be absolutey incredible. Hell...this car *is* incredible.   I'll enjoy watching the progress...
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

Reeves1

New (to me) intake.


Reeves1

Long time no post !
My axles....


Pinto5.0

Talk to Norman Bagi about thelouvers & spoiler. He did that with his already so he should know which ones will work. I think he made his louvers from a hatch set if I'm not mistaken.
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Reeves1

Little extra time off today...

Found these pics...





Thoughts.... keep my hood scoop. Hot pants kit from Map351. Whimbleton White with the black (reflective like B2s).

Looks good, in my head. Thoughts ?

Would also need to track down the rear louvers (sp ?) & spoiler.

Pinto5.0

Can't beat that. At least it was complete & you don't need to hunt down more parts.
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'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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Reeves1

Nope. Good deal.

I called the guy that is going to build my B2 headers. Asked if he was to copy the set of black headers, how much. He said about $1500.00.
So when this is taken into account, I got a smoke'n deal @ $700.00 + shipping, for the whole kit.

Sometime next summer I'll be on the look out for a 71......or a newer version like a 74 ^ for a light weight build.

Pinto5.0

Cool, glad I could help. Did you get raped?  :'(
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'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
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Reeves1

What they are, is SOLD !  ;D
Yup, bought the kit !





NOS, never used. All parts are there. They are no longer made.
Kit is for 289w , 302w and 351w.

That makes two sets of headers of this kind I now have. No other parts came with this set.






I'll have the above 2 sets ceramic coated, inside and out, when the ones for my B2 are built in Dec.

Pinto5.0

'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze