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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pinto 78 Project

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mrskydog

I have been working on the Pinto most of the day ,I couldnt help but to mount up the Crager SS 13 inch rims with Mickey Thompson 50's :P
Ijust had to see how they looked mounted.
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
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1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
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mrskydog

Been busy removing old Rustproofing out of the engine compartment to reveal the nice bright Orange paint (Messy) still throwing around Ideas on the interior made a Gauge Cluster today. I just need to decide on using a Ford 8-track or continue to searching for a Nice Craig Power Play Unit? (anyone got one) Big Ford Swap at Columbus Ohio 1 week  :) ant wait.
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mrskydog

Well I decied to go with a Ford AM/FM 8-Track ...I think? i picked this up it plays great!  But I still am kicking around the Idea of a Craig Power Play Hmmmmm- Got to stay Vintage..  8)
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1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
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mrskydog

Now that I have the Pinto home I am trying to work on it after my Job at leat 30min to 1hr a day M-F. I want to try to get it as far as I can by Spring. I have got it all tuned in and runs great now. I have started to detail the engine compartment,remove all the rustproofing mess and cleaning. Today I pulled the after market radio, and Fit the Center console out of a Must.II fits Nice! I think it wiil work well. I wanted to check fit before pulling interior for Carpet and Clean-up.
more pics...I think I should start a new thred in( My Projects) ,which I will do next time.
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mrskydog

The Pinto is Home now. I will get it in my Garage, for the winter make over. Complete interior clean up, new carpet Etc. This car takes up slightly less space then my 73 Maverick. Here are a few Pics.....
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Reeves1

Car looks lost in that big shop !  ;D

mrskydog

Carb is all rebuilt ,runs nice. Got the rear end fluid and new  pinion seal installed. Flushed the P.S unit out New Brakes, all ready to come home for a re-make.new carpet install re dyed panels. Going to turn it into a butterfly by Spring.... ;D
some more Pictures....
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dave1987

You will need the pedals and the steering bracket that the pedals connect to. Four bolts on the firewall if I remember correctly, two support rods that go from the firewall to the front dash end of the bracket, and then two more, if I recall correctly, at the front dash end of the bracket itself.

It really isn't hard to remove or install, it's just difficult to get to everything under the dash with the limited clearance, even with the driver seat removed. I pulled one out of a station wagon a couple years ago to make room for cutting the floor pan out.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

mrskydog

I also have been thinking about, going to a manual set-up rather that a auto? have many others done this , seems like it would be a rather simple switch.
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mrskydog

I did end up Tapping out the small Exhaust holes 3/8 ,then installed set screws into the ports worked fine. Looks as if I have to go thru the carb the Idle circuit is acting weird. I need to rebuild it any way. Did frnt and rear complete brakes all done. With the power Disc brakes and power steering its almost over kill. :D

I took it in to the shop..I have worked here in Michigan at a Ford dealer for over 25yrs ,got the carb off going to re-build it. getting it ready to come home for the Winter make over....heres a few pics of the shop.
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mrskydog

I had 2 1/4 Exhaust installed with a turbo style muffler. I also install a 1995 or so style Ranger 2.3 header. What I over looked was the small emisions ports below eack port.....UGG .(leaks Exhaust Bad!) I researched the board and yes I see I can tap and install a 3/8 st screw or possible 3/8 plug? I will get that done next week. I just over looked it I guess. I will get Exhaust cleaned up, do a complete brake job, then move on to the Winter gathering of parts to finish up in Spring.  Looking forward to the Big Columbus Ohio all Ford Swap meet on NOV.26 and again April 1st. :)
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mrskydog

Just got back, and off it goes for Exhaust and brakes at my work place. Then I will start Fall/Winter restore for Spring 2012.
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mrskydog

Went and changed out Oil in the Pinto today. I got the break-in oil out, then took it for a quick drive. It seems to drive out nice ,good power and shifting. On to Exhaust now, open header is a little noisy to fine tune. Here are a couple of quick Pic's. of today........Kirk
"Living the Dream...Driving Old Fords"
1965 Mustang 2+2 Fastback
1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

dave1987

1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

mrskydog

I have been very Lucky on finding Vintage parts for my Pinto Project> Today I picked up a Sport Steerig Wheel in Perfect Shape! ,just right. I will install this Tomarrow and then take it for its first Test Drive since the Engine Rebuild.  ;D I will post some pics later....Kirk
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1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

Pinto5.0

That paint is expensive because it's a custom blend thats put into a spray can & pressurized for convenience. If you were to buy it for spray gun use you could probably get a pint for $25 which would fill 4 or 5 spray cans.

I have this nifty spray can I got from Harbor Freight that you pour your own thinned paint in it, screw the cap on & pressurize with your air compressor & it turns anything into a spray paint.
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mrskydog

I found the Rims and the Tires as a set, I bought them here in Michigan.  The owner had them for years, nice find for me. And I guess yes 25.00 a can for Spray paint that works well is Cheap ;) I am taking in for Exhaust now I think I am going with a 2" or to a 2" 1/2 pipei to a Small turbo style muffler.
Kirk
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1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

Reeves1

QuoteThe Color is Ford Tangerine for 1978..not cheap at about 25.00 a Can.

Price that in Canada: it will make you feel better !  :lol:

bbobcat75

thanks where did you have luck finding those tires sizes??
thanks
eric
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mrskydog

Thanks...the Tires are P215/50D/13 frnt  and  P245/50D/13 rear.  The Paint is from a Paint Shop made by PPG Industries in a Semi gloss interior blend. One can was enough to cover shown panels. I included a Picture of paint can. It covers and looks great . I used this same paint to Dye the interior of my 73 Maverick.


The Color is Ford Tangerine for 1978..not cheap at about 25.00 a Can.
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1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

bbobcat75

what size cragars are you running and the panels look awsome, would like to know what color and brand dye you used.
thanks
eric
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JoeBob

What did you use to dye the panels? Mine could be brighter.
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mrskydog

Engine is in and runs great! all fresh and ready to go. I started to pull out some of the Interior Panels to re Dye since they were fadded. I also picked up a nice center Console and the SS Cragers,MickeyThompson 50's .....Going to be a Neat little car.
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1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

mrskydog

Motor is ready for break-in tommarrow, also found a set of Mickey Thompson Tires and Crager SS Rims for it :smile:
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1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

mrskydog

Today Ridge Ream the Block, and Hone Cylinders ,measure clearances and clean. Now ready to re-assmble. Got Wedding #2 this month in afew days in Milwaukee, so wont get it done and installed for about a week.
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mrskydog

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on July 18, 2011, 07:06:44 PM
I love that orange interior. Thats only the 3rd one I've ever seen. I fell in love with my oddball black/gold combo in my '80 & it was the main reason I bought the car. Gotta love those odd ones....



Very Nice Car  I like the Odd  combos...Cool 8)
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mrskydog

Getting close  assemble motor this weekend . Head complete , re-ring and bearings. got a Ranger manifold and modified it. Road test soon, I will update. ;D
I still would like to Install a Old School Intake set up for a 2.3 like Edlelbrock Ect.. anything out there? let me know. 8)
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1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
2005 Mustang

Pinto5.0

I love that orange interior. Thats only the 3rd one I've ever seen. I fell in love with my oddball black/gold combo in my '80 & it was the main reason I bought the car. Gotta love those odd ones....

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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Cookieboystoys

Hey, if you get-r-running and want to give it a good test run... you could consider a road trip for the September 11 weekend and join in some fun Pinto doings

here ~> http://www.pintostampede.com/events/911event.htm

or here ~> http://www.pintostampede.com/events/ohio.htm

I should be at the one in Illinois and love to see Pintos in all shapes, sizes and condition

It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

mrskydog

My plan is to fix all Mechanical first, and start body work in a month or so. I like the Bright Tangerine paint , and going to stick with the org. color. I will start collecting odds and ends over the Fall and winter, rims, ect. I always injoy the Big all Ford Swap meet in Columbus Ohio in the Spring ,always alot of nice parts there.

Kirk

I forgot to add that the Low Compression was due to #3 piston both compression rings broken, as well as #1 had one broke ,and #2 had one broke. The only intact piston with rings was #4.
I know enginer at Sealed power Piston Ring called said due to the fact that the rings were broken at 180 deg ,center. Most likey caused by improper install, were the ring was installed without proper Tool and Snaked around to Install. This type of Install will  Fatiuge the ring in the center and will cause it to crack later. Good Info to Know.......Kirk
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1980 Pinto Rallye 32,000 Org.
1972 Maverick Grabber V-8 car
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