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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

narrowing a 8.8 explorer rear

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russosborne

For anyone in the Phoenix area, I have an 8.8 from a 2002 Crown Vic PI that you can have for free if you come and drag it out of my back yard if you want to practice narrowing one on. No brakes, that was why I bought it, the disk brakes from them are a good conversion for a 8 or 9 inch to disk. It would need new spider gears if you wanted to use it. Think it has 3.23 or about ratio.
I agree with Dick, I would never ever use an 8.8 over an 8 or 9 inch rear. I just don't understand the love for those pieces of zoop.
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dick1172762

Reasons why not to use an 8.8 rear end over an 8 inch. Heavy, non removeable center section to change axle ratios, over kill on all but the most HP Pintos out there, easy to misalign when welding without a jig fixture, and axle ratios for the freeway hard to come by. And posi's for an 8 inch are on the e-gay ever day from $300 on up. Think about it! Lots of work when you compare the two rear ends for little to no gain. I've had an 8 inch in all my race car and have yet to hurt one.
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sursmiliepin

I did the explorer rear in a 56 fairlane. Cut the long side and put short axle in and welded tube on( it has to be perfectly straight !) I think I removed 3 inches from long side(ds).Measure axle lengths and cut the difference out. I used a early fox mustang master cylinder , they came with manual front disc brakes.

thmpsn70

on anyones 8.8 disc brake install no one ever seems to tell what master cylinder you use after the swap is done. is there a stock replacement master that is in all the parts stores?

JohnW

You have the Explorer 8.8 with a T5 and the Aerostar driveshaft fit perfectly? That's really good to know, I was planning to get one of the 92-95 crimped ones and shorten it then have it welded. If I don't have to do that, even better!

The guy I spoke to on the phone with the shop is pretty well known in the area, and he said it was just such a pain when he did it that he doesn't want to again. And he suggests doing a 9" and he only has collars for 9s and other old style rears for his truing setup. I'm going with the 8.8 for the reasons you posted. I do want to go with the 9" ends on the 8.8 someday though. How difficult is it actually to press the tubes out and back in?

Edit: You did that to a wagon didn't you? Wagons and hatches are the same wheelbase right?

And I believe the C-clip eliminator kits are only for the Mustang/Ranger/T-Bird 8.8s with the smaller wheel bearings and thinner tubes. Tried doing some searching for one for the Explorer 8.8 and everyone on off road forums was saying there was nothing available. I might be remembering incorrectly though. At least they're disc brake so if an axle did somehow snap, the caliper would hold it in. And, despite the 4 probably not being able to break them, the 31 spline axle shafts themselves are a dime a dozen. Can rip them out of any of the 8.8 Explorers as I believe even the non LS ones were 31 spline and junkyards don't want much for em.

Still debating on using the smaller yoke from a Mustang/T-Bird, how close is yours sitting to the floor? What part of the rear end was hitting out of curiosity?

And I did realize the e-brake brackets would be an issue and planned on moving them. Good to know it's easy enough to set up the cables. I hadn't even looked into the lengths of the Explorer ones so that'll save me a little hassle.
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OhSix9

The stock explorer diff width and factory sn95 wheel backspacing fits perfectly. I am running 98 cobra 17x8's on all 4 corners using said diff.  No point in narrowing it you just end up using spacers.   running 275 45's on the rims they just tuck under the fender lips and there is less than an inch from the sidewall to the spring.   yes you will have to adjust the floor with a chev wrench and also modify the ebrake cable brackets as the driveshaft will rub it on hard launches.  I made my own ebrake cable using two passenger side explorer ones and just joined them together with a couple cable clevises.  since I assume you are going the t5 route go find an aluminum driveshaft out of a 4liter awd aerostar. it bolts right in the hole and doesn't need cutting.   at 31 spline these things are essentially enbreakable in a street car and a turbo 4 would never make enough power to snap one. the 8 and 9 inch is a good option 20 years ago but the posi's are all worn out and they are hard to come by, you cant spit and not hit a 3L73 8.8 in a boneyard. plus even if it is cooked you can do clutches cheap and easy just popping off the back cover.  when you really start makin power put a girdle on it and it will be good for 750+ horses. there is also a c clip eliminator kit available if that is a concern.  but yes using discs solves the issue without any add'l expense. 

Quite frankly if the local shop want nothing to do with swapping out an axle tube just keep walking and find someone skilled. it's not rocket science and in fact the proper way to actually do this.  cutting and rewelding the axle tubes is a chachi way of doin things. , drill the plugs out, push out the old one. push in the new one and align it with a straight shaft through the housing. weld the damn plugs back in.  easy peasy. If they balk at this they are either incompetent or just looking to upsell you on a "better" solution.

arkyt, the tbird and mustang use the same housing only differing in the axle length. you can 5 lug it with 2 passenger side axles from any ranger with either the 7.5 or 8.8 as they are all 28 spline
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JohnW

I've read the same thing and done a lot of research on it. Every axle shop I've talked to wants nothing to do with the job, however. One local hot rod guy said he swapped axle tubes in a rear end once and will never do it again for a customer. I'm just putting the wider rear end in my car. The offset diff in the Explorer 8.8 may present a small clearance issue but I took some measurements and it will be minimal. I might have to hammer the floor in a little under the back right seat. I also might go with the smaller yoke from a Mustang and T-Bird style 8.8 instead of Ford's larger truck yoke since it'll be close to hitting the floor there. The smaller one seems to hold up fine in modded Mustangs.

Most modern wheels are a lot higher offset. With the stock Pinto rear end the most backspacing you can fit is around 4.25" I believe. Most modern wheels have 5-6"+.  I'm planning to use some newer 17x9 wheels with around a +32 offset in the rear down the road. I believe the stock Pinto rear end is 57 and the Explorer 8.8 is around 59.5. So even with a ~1.5" wider rear axle I'll still need bolt on spacers.

With the stock axle in my car and 15x7 +12 Enkeis (which is a very low offset compared to what you can get for wheels now, around 4.25" of backspacing) I still have tons of space between the tire and fender lip. So there's plenty of wiggle room in there, the fenders are huge.
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arkyt

How about a 8.8 from a turbo coupe?  i have a chance to get one cheap.  Should I?
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Bigtimmay

Quote from: ponyrancher on June 11, 2011, 10:27:37 PM
granada 8 inch 57.25 will handle most stockers or 275 horses

Uhh granadas rears that most people use are 5 lug and are 9 inch rears not 8. Its the same rear a lincoln versailles uses with the exception that the lincoln has disc brakes both of which will bolt straight under a pinto.
But yah the 8.8 explorer is a way cheaper alternative only bad thing about any 8.8 is the C-clips that hold the axles in if they break the axle can slide out. But C-clip eliminators fix that problem.
But them sliding out would prolly only happen with the older drum brake 8.8 rears i dont think there would be enough force to rip the caliper/caliper mount off on a disc brake setup to allow the axle to come out.
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don33

Thats a fact.  but,  if your going to kick it up a notch, (V8 or turbo 4), you might be interested in an 8.8  .  besides, add up all the cost for parts and labor to convert that 8"  to  the 8.8 specs listed above.  I am quite certain it will be quite expensive... much more than an 8.8 out of the wrecking yard.  let me give you an example,  I recently bought an 8" out of a 68 ford falcon. I think I paid $150.00 or $200.00 for it, sounded like a great deal.  I was going to put it in the pinto. but first I wanted to rebuild it to 8.8 specs.  a local shop wanted in excess of $500.00 to do the work, parts plus labor.  when all was said and done I would have over $750.00 in a 8" and still not have the rear disc brakes, and are the grenadas 5 lug ? so the bottom line was, I could buy two 8.8's for what one 8" would cost.... no thanks, I'll go 8.8....

ponyrancher

granada 8 inch 57.25 will handle most stockers or 275 horses


don33

this is the best method of narrowing a explorer rear that I have found so far (IMHO). It only requires one cut.     

http://www.stangfix.com/testforum2/index.php/topic,11946.0.html 

I have heard of another method that does not require any cuts, but have not found documentation yet.   It involves removing the long side housing and axle and replacing it with a short side housing and axle that leaves you with a rear with two short side housings and axles. either way you end up with a 8.8 rear that  has "an overall width of 56.125" wide, or 0.875 inches narrower then the stock Pinto axle". with 5 lug disc and a trac-lock diff and 373/410 gears. Can I get an Amen from the congregation ?