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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Do you use your Pinto as a regular "driver" ? Why?

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D.R.Ball

Nock on wood , still driving my desert rat Pinto Wagon....BTW the wood was the only real wood I could find, My M-1 Garands stock...

JohnW

Mine is a daily driver and has been since shortly after I bought it at the beginning of the summer.  Aside from a couple minor issues I had that would've been prevented if I looked over it well enough, it's never left me stranded.  I do 55 on the highway with a 65mph speed limit but I don't mind it.  I'd much rather drive it over my '99 Ranger.  I made a 300 mile round trip in one day on one tank of gas and the car had no problems whatsoever.  The trip didn't go as planned though...
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75bobcatv6

Ours is not drivin right now. it is in the process of going through body work, I haev to get it ready for paint. Then i have to find a booth that i can rent out to bring the car in and spray her Deja Blue. even after that she will be a weekend car. i plan on her being Bone stock engine wise =D the rest is up for grabs lol. our DD is a mini Van

pintoman1972

For me, obviously NOT and I am sure everyone can understand.  This one of a kind Pinto is two seats and a steering wheel wedged between a very large motor and very large tires.  Behind the seats and between the roll cage and the front of those enormous tubs there is barely room for two folding fabric chairs.  As for the trunk, there is room for two loaves of bread behind the the rear of the enormous tubs and the 12 gallon JAZ fuel cell.

But I sure do appreciate those that do use their Pinto as a daily driver.  Fun wow.

Dick

r4pinto

I use my Pinto to piss off the neighbor's son by parking it in front of my house on the street so he can't. So far so good, since the car hasn't moved from its spot for about a week or two. That's what the jerk gets for preventing us from putting the trashcan out in front of the house on trash day.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

... and to show off your Pony Express. lol  :lol:

One can never have too many Pintos!

Fred Morgan

I use my 73 to ship Pinto parts out !   Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

FCANON

Quote from: taco003 on August 25, 2011, 12:57:52 PM
I'm 16 and I got my pinto for a daily driver because it was the only car that seemed worth the price at the time but I love it!

See that.. you Are living the dream!

FrankBoss
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taco003

I'm 16 and I got my pinto for a daily driver because it was the only car that seemed worth the price at the time but I love it!

r4pinto

Quote from: dave1987 on August 04, 2011, 11:51:43 PM
Well, my 73 Station Wagon was my weekend driver. Need to rebuild the rear brakes, change the rear transmission seal again, and do a drive-shaft swap to kill the transmission leak going on, which is keeping me from driving it. I drive it short distance to work and back as long as I know I won't have to go anywhere, since it starts to burn the trans fluid that sprays on the exhaust after it's hot. It's embarassing driving a car that smokes and smells bad due to it.

I hear ya Dave, I have been behind a car that leaked & burned tranny fluid & it wasn't pretty. What sucked for me was the fact it was a friend of mine I was following home  due to the tranny issue. Yuck! lol
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dave1987

Well, my 73 Station Wagon was my weekend driver. Need to rebuild the rear brakes, change the rear transmission seal again, and do a drive-shaft swap to kill the transmission leak going on, which is keeping me from driving it. I drive it short distance to work and back as long as I know I won't have to go anywhere, since it starts to burn the trans fluid that sprays on the exhaust after it's hot. It's embarassing driving a car that smokes and smells bad due to it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

sedandelivery

I drive my sedandelivery at least once a week to the store, etc.  and love driving it. I hate to put it away again, it's so much fun to drive. Has issues but I am working them out.

5.8mustang

I drive mine about a hundred miles a day with a slightly built 2.3 it gets about 28mpg on premium. ive had a few breakdowns but not leaving me stranded

r4pinto

The Pinto is now my daily driver. I know I am gonna hear about this but I don't like it. Here I have a 1977 Pinto with major work needed to the suspension & I am driving it because the fuel pump in my 2004 Malibu went out. It will cost me about $300 for the pump & I already got the parts for the Pinto, so the Pinto won out. It is a crappy drive & I feel cramped compared to my roomy midsize Malibu. I thought about trying to drive it to work today but if that fuel pump goes out on the road I'm screwed, so I continue to drive the Pinto for now.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Quote from: Cookieboystoys on June 23, 2011, 08:11:00 PM
I do when I can but with 8! "fricker-fracker" months of winter.... nice ones come out on good days, have drivers for the rest of the weather we get, I do have 1 with a block heater and little rusty, last winter I was using my 84 escort for a backup beater, seriously thinking about the rusty Pinto this year, that early escort is just to scary to drive on ice and snow.

You have a rusty Pinto??
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

Cookieboystoys

I do when I can but with 8! "fricker-fracker" months of winter.... nice ones come out on good days, have drivers for the rest of the weather we get, I do have 1 with a block heater and little rusty, last winter I was using my 84 escort for a backup beater, seriously thinking about the rusty Pinto this year, that early escort is just to scary to drive on ice and snow.
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

moses

HELL YES!!!!! i drive her like she was ment to be driven.. i bought my 72 trunk for a mere $500, and have since put more than i care to count into it, ie all new front breaks, u joints, tires allignment, head gasket kit, lapped the valves, slight intake and exhaust porting, header and exhaust, offenhauser with holley 390, stereo, carpet, etc... hahaha. anywho, the rear end was a bit smashed in, (tied her to a tree with a tow strap and went to work.) now the front was perfect. i say was, because on my way home from my first pinto social gathering, i got cut off and rear ended a car on the highway, so now im missing a bunch of my grill and turn signal lense. and my fender and headlight bezel is smashed in.. but thats life i guess.. good thing i wasnt in my baja, because that honda would have been under me!!!
  i drive her daily because shes a fun car, very reliable, i can fix anyting under the hood with a crescent wrench, screw driver and/or a hammer, she gets good mpg when i have a light foot, but still can take off the line like a bottle rocket (goodbye mpg's)  i get a ton of compliments, even with the dented rear quarter pannel, its a great conversation piece, did i mention fun to drive? she is my little pony!!!!
my pinto is faster than your hybrid!!

pmfman

I put about 600 kilometers a year on mine, and store it for the winter. I basically just take it to car shows and as a spare during the summer if my daily driver is off the road for some reason (repair, insurance lapse, etc.)
KDC

postalpony

Hey Tommy--flip a coin--Sherry won't mind im sure, maybe?

I drive my 83.762 mph 'Postal Unit' when ever I get the urge,
because as not having anywhere to be at any given time, &
being an 'Old Fart' I can do it.  And I damn well enjoy every
minute of the whole deal!!!

         My best to ALL----Dick Mathias
1980 Hatchback was a "Postal Unit" on the
west coast in it's early life. Now residing
in Ohio, But we don't haul the U.S. Mail anymore;
Now all we do is HAUL!
5th gear 4700 rpm & still pullin'= 113+  mph

UPDATE-83.762 mph in 4th gear As verified by a W Va State Trooper-WITH 1 GEAR TO GO 6-2-11

DreamBean

Yes,No,Yes. First off,No Pinto I own has working A/C. I drove my 80 for awhile until I got the 76.  Then the 76 became my daily driver. On my way home the friday before leaving for the stampede, the brakes went out on the 76. So now I am in the 80 again and loving every minute of it since it is finished. Trying to decide if the 76 or the wifes 79 is next to be reborn.
Saddle up!
Go Ford, Go Fast Or Go Home!

75bobcatv6


carbomb

drove mine as much as i could during the year. between a turbo 2.3 swap, winter in montana, and paint i sometimes have to drive my torino or ranger. Right now its getting ready for a nice coat of synergy green! been sandblasting wood grain for the last week and it is not very fun!

D.R.Ball

I use mine ( 1976 Wagon) as a daily driver because I like it. It has a nice patina to it as well (been in the China Lake area till April 11). Will I paint it ? Guess I'm going to channel my inner Riff and say I donno......How ever I really need to change the fuse box out because it's getting hot in Pensacola FL.I have A/C but the 30 amp fuse holder is toast.....And  Painless Wiring doesn't make a fuse block with a 30 amp circuit....And no the El cheapo add a circuit will not cut it...The fuses are near my legs...

mikerich1972

YES !!! Regular daily driver for sure! Our wagon now has 330,400 miles on it, original engine and all.
We still drive it daily, along with an occasional trip in Idaho or Montana.
No A/C, no power steering, no power brakes. Who cares? It's cheap, reliable, and the best car I've ever owned.
And, with about 26 mpg in town... 32 highway; what's not to love?
1976 Pinto Wagon 2.3L
1972 Harley Davidson FLH 1200
1972 Pontiac Firebird 350/350
2003 Ford Motorhome
2018 Ford Focus

ToniJ1960

Quote from: tinkerman73 on June 04, 2011, 04:37:24 AM
I have driven ine daily to work until this week. As someone else has said, she waits until she is home to let me know she does not want to go well until something is fixed. Bought it for $900 in February with 73,000 on her. She was parked three days ago because of a loud clatter. I believe I have two bad lifters. She made it home fine, but when I thought I would try to push her and drive her to work another day, she told me "NO"! LOL. So right now it is the gas guzzling van with a hobo in the back drinking the gas behind my back. Needless to say, she has 81,000 on her already. So thats has been 8,000 miles in 3 months. Not bad for a $900 car! LOL.

That was me and you know what,every time it just needed some love I never regretted spending the money to fix it.It took me a while to find the transmission I wanted when mine was going out,I didnt want just one from a junkyard.And I finally found the deal a guy who had his rebuilt and never used it.He said his saint of a wife allowed him to buy the one he wanted for it,a Quaiffe Rocket.I looked it up and after I saw how much that transmission cost I agreed she must be a saint lol.

Give that one some love and get her fixed you wont regret it. After the transmission was changed in mine and I drove it home it reminded me of all the good years it gave me and made me  smile again.

blupinto

I do drive Ruby RedHot to work because she gets way better gas mileage than my '97 Rodeo. The Isuzu is now primarily the dog-mobile for going to the dog park. When I get the green wagon fixed she'll be more the daily driver-dogmobile. lol. Again it's because of her superior gas mileage. ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

bigfoot

Bought mine as fairly low mileage one to just drive sometimes. But with gas prices have used it lot more plus when I took to the next town shopping two weeks ago I got two thumbs up and was in about 7 little conversations about pintos. People love 'em. Plus as the trucker that delivered mine from Tuscon said "who woulda thought a pinto was a babe magnet?"
1976 runabout
1978 turbo
2000 electra-glide

tinkerman73

I have driven ine daily to work until this week. As someone else has said, she waits until she is home to let me know she does not want to go well until something is fixed. Bought it for $900 in February with 73,000 on her. She was parked three days ago because of a loud clatter. I believe I have two bad lifters. She made it home fine, but when I thought I would try to push her and drive her to work another day, she told me "NO"! LOL. So right now it is the gas guzzling van with a hobo in the back drinking the gas behind my back. Needless to say, she has 81,000 on her already. So thats has been 8,000 miles in 3 months. Not bad for a $900 car! LOL.
Jody Michielsen

skunky56

First off great thread.
Yes I drive two of mine daily the 72 Runabout and the 72 Wagon both get great fuel mileage they have 2.0's with T-9's.
Here in Kaliforniastien, we must smog our cars from 1976-on.
The 72's are exempt from the smog laws and are cheap to insure due to collector car insurance. I live in the Bay Area, we have no snow or adverse weather to deal with so I'm able to drive them year round. :fastcar:
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3