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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

what about mustang II's??

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tony v

face it folks, if one of our pinto's would fart, i bet it will smell sorta like a mustang II. we all swapped parts with those cool lil cars. heck my neighbor bought an old rack from my mII for his mudd bogger. like the pinto, the mII will never die........  (just need to be fixed again is all)!! :smile:
Rubber side down!!

69GT

   It would be kinda cool if there was a common ground mini-forum that was linked to both our sites. Like a "Ask a Mustang II owner"  forum for us. And a " humbly ask the clearly superior Pinto gods to splain things to you" section for them.

WIV8Pinto

This is some really good feedback I didn't know it was going to be such a hot topic! It shows the loyalty of the individual car owner for each make & brand. Variety is the spice of life!! Thanks for the comments....
I like the Pinto for it's uniqueness....Love the Maverick too....Let's face it, I am a big FORD nut! ! !

Take care all, and take care of those Fords!!
1972 V8 Pinto Wagon 351 Windsor C4 4.88 gears...& hang on!!!!
Also 02 F150 4x4 and 96 Explorer sport 4x4

r4pinto

Quote from: entropy on April 29, 2011, 06:26:41 PM
Aaaaw....come on, guys!  We bring the Mustang II people in, we introduce them around, we give 'em some cold lemonade and they wake up in an ice filled bathtub in a cheap motel with fresh sutures and their motor mounts and oil pans missing!

And their rear ends!! Don't forget their rear ends lol.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

entropy

Aaaaw....come on, guys!  We bring the Mustang II people in, we introduce them around, we give 'em some cold lemonade and they wake up in an ice filled bathtub in a cheap motel with fresh sutures and their motor mounts and oil pans missing!
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
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-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
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450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

r4pinto

Quote from: dga57 on April 29, 2011, 12:53:07 AM
This site was founded for the Ford Pinto and I think it should stay that way.  Just my opinion. 

I agree Dwayne, They can come & play with those of us that love the Pinto, but I don't think a merger would ever be in order. This site is about the Pinto, as it always has been. Let's keep it that way.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dga57

I think the thing that bothers most Mustang II owner's is trying to live up to the Mustang name with a car that just didn't quite do it.  Don't get me wrong, they were fantastic cars and I like them a lot, but they should have been marketed under a different moniker.  The 1980-82 Thunderbirds suffered the same fate (try finding parts for one of those!) as did several other cars of that era.  Most everyone here seems to like the Mustang II's and I certainly have no problem with welcoming them with open arms but I would be against a merger of the two clubs.  This site was founded for the Ford Pinto and I think it should stay that way.  Just my opinion. 

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

2.3stangii

As my screen name suggests I am a Mustang II owner. A 74 Ghia and 78 Cobra. It was the love for II's that kickstarted an even greater love for Pintos  :)

If I remember correctly I started lurking on this site before I even bought a Pinto because their similarity to the 74, and the fact that many Pinto owners are a little more creative about making a v8 fit. The only answers you seem to find on Mustang sites about v8 swaps are "use factory v8 II this and that". Which some of us can't afford or even find.

Sadly though, some Mustang II owners get upset about having anything to do with a Pinto and would probably see merging the two clubs as an 'insult' while others like me don't mind the "remodeled Pinto" remarks. The same aplies with Maverick owners, some like the Pinto and hate the II and vice-versa.
Fact is all three cars are very much alike and equally as awesome.  8)
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dave1987

My dream car that can be reality in the next few years is a late model Mustang II fastback with a 302 and C4 automatic transmission. While I would love a t-top, those are insanely hard to come by. I would get the cobra II kit to put on it and paint it white with the cobra II stripes and decals.

There are mustang IIs on craigslist around here in the northwest more than there are Pintos, equal with fastbacks or ghias, although the ghias with the V8 are more common than fastbacks with the V8.

SSC Enterprises has some great stuff on their site to help with Mustang II restorations as well.

Honestly I would rather have my dream Mustang II than to do a V8 swap in my 78 Pinto Sedan. That way I can always have my memory car and leave the family Pinto alone with the few modifications it has, as well as my Station Wagon when I feel like taking a cruise with the family, and finally my little muscle car that will blow the pants off the "sooped up" Hondas here in Boise. Sorry but an upgrade muffler and ugly paint job does not make your car faster.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

WIV8Pinto

Cool! Thanks for your thoughts, guys.....it's a fun topic for discussion anyway.
Maybe I could trade my wagon for the M II??? Naaaa...ha ha not yet anyway...I'll find a sweet M II one of these days, and then I'll have them both!!

Take care
1972 V8 Pinto Wagon 351 Windsor C4 4.88 gears...& hang on!!!!
Also 02 F150 4x4 and 96 Explorer sport 4x4

blupinto

Well, I for one welcome Mustang II lovers... I am one!  :welcome: :welcome: :welcome:

The funny thing is, Pinto Peeps (including yours truly) have used Mustang II components on their Pintos, from armrests and center consoles to rear ends and clutch cables and beyond. These two models are essentially from the same era, and sadly were also both loathed at times- the Mustang II by so-called "Mustang Purists" and the Pinto by the Nader Nation.

Me, I would sell a kidney to have that '76 teal green Mustang II Ghia with the V8 that I lost my heart to in 1995. She was SWEET! Damn minimum wage job and getting paid on the 10th of each month! >:(  She was sold a couple days before I could bring in the down payment. >:( >:( >:(

Robert Tinklepaugh might have your dream red MII... get ahold of him. He wants a Cruising Wagon. ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

r4pinto

At one point I know the MII site was welcoming Pinto owners, as the same with this site with MII & other car owners, but am not sure how welcoming the members on that site were. Who knows, it's pretty much the same car anyways.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

sedandelivery

There is a garage on route 743 on the way to Hershey,Pa. Shelby's Garage I think it is, anyway they always have an interesting Ford or two there yesterday they had a tricked out Mustang II there that was awesome to say the least. I do not think there are a lot of MII's around anymore like that one.

phils toys

2006, 07,08 ,10 Carlisle 3rd stock pinto 4 years same place
2007 PCCA East Regional Best Wagon
2008 CAHS Prom Coolest Ride
2011,2014 pinto stampede

dave1987

While I love the Mustang II and it's one of my dream cars, I don't see merging the mustang II club and the Pinto club together as something to do with fordpinto.com quite yet. Maybe sometime in the future, but right now I just can't see it happening.

We do openly welcome mustang II owners and fans here, as we do with any other classic or non classic car enthusiast/owner/fan.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

WIV8Pinto

All you Pinto lovers...I think the Mustang II is a very cool car too. I'd love to have a red one with white deck stripes and a red interior. Of course I'd want a 351w transplanted in it, with a 4 speed and an 8" rearend...now THAT would be fun!!!

Maybe this Pinto site could welcome the Mustang II as members also?? You can't beat the light weight and coolness of both the Pinto & the M II.

Any thoughts on this? Agree / disagree
1972 V8 Pinto Wagon 351 Windsor C4 4.88 gears...& hang on!!!!
Also 02 F150 4x4 and 96 Explorer sport 4x4