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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

72 Pinto "Hot Rod" OverHaul

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Wittsend

This is the COMPUTER (PC) method. If you are using your phone you will have to wait for someone else. This is not a "one and done" process that some of the social media site have.


First the picture needs to be stored somewhere (and you need to know where that "somewhere" is) on the computer.


Note that there is a picture file maximum size and natively out of the camera/phone that picture size can often be too large. What I do is open the picture, then use the Snipping Tool to recapture the image and it will create a new picture file that is smaller in data size that you save. I recommend you use some indicator ( I use LR) in the file name to indicate it is a "lower resolution" image.



On the page where you create the post scroll down to "Attach." Select "Choose File." This will open your folder files. Navigate to the location (drive, folder, image) where the re-sized pictures are located. Click on the picture and the picture file name should fill the dialog box near the bottom of the open window. Click on "Open". That should complete the process.


In summary: Transfer pictures to the computer, resize picture to an accepted size, select "Choose File" and  navigate to the location the picture was stored, click on the picture to highlight it (and fill the dialog box) and select "Open."




oldeguy

call me crazy, just bought a 1980 Pinto 3 door. 937 mile round trip, 16 hours and an average mpg on my 03 dodge 3500 dually of 29.3 at 70+ MPH...sweet

at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

Hello all, sold my turbo foxbody car...sad to see her go but it was time. So project Pinto is back on. How do I add pictures to my posts?
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

PintoRoyL

I am relatively new here, but I think I can learn a lot from this project.
I intend to keep tabs on your progress. Sounds very interesting.


dga57

Quote from: oldeguy on July 29, 2021, 05:17:13 PM
got a year award today, how do I post this in my signature? thanks



I'm a little mystified by what you're calling a "year award"... can you elaborate on that, please? 

Dwayne ???
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

oldeguy

Looking for subframe pictures anyone as done thanks!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

got a year award today, how do I post this in my signature? thanks

at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

dga57

Quote from: oldeguy on July 29, 2021, 10:40:59 AM
Hello All, it's that time again, kick-starting the Hot Rod project. My one Turbo Foxbody buddy is bugging me to get this project started and move'n to completion...s o now is the time.

Glad to hear you've renewed your interest in the project.  Keep us in the loop with your progress!

Dwayne :)
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

oldeguy

Hello All, it's that time again, kick-starting the Hot Rod project. My one Turbo Foxbody buddy is bugging me to get this project started and move'n to completion...so now is the time.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

Car still for sale...cold in Ohio now!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

OK...Aug 2018 It's been a tough decision, but I'm never going to finish this rebuild of my Pinto. I have decided to sell my turbo pinto project. So, got all kinds of stuff for the build. If your interested let me know...440 949 9528 $5k for everything!

[/size][size=78%]1972 Pinto "Turbo" EFI runabout Kit Car...no rust! Never been is salted roads, purchased in CO in 1975, owned it ever since, always stored in a garage![/size]

Finish building my dream! A kick butt 2.3l turbo coupe EFI engine with a Tremic T5 WC transmission thru a Quicktime bellhousting, with an 8.8 posi differential with 3.73 gear ratio, running 275/50-15 street slicks on Weld wheel, big disc brakes (11" rotors) up front, Explorer discs on rear, Mild steel roll bar 6 point kit,  Recaro Mustang pace car seats. The car has the BOSS Pinto wheel spats (like the old Trans Am Firebird, louver back window, with Cougar tail lights. Car is Imron metallic black, custom hood scoop (I built from scratch) All of the body work was completed on the original build back in 1976 This is my dream. And it is in kit form! Got almost all the parts...you need to finish the kit.
Engine...Got two: 2.3l turbo coupe donor engine, this is an EFI engine. it was built, bored +0.020, crower rods, roller followers, capped main caps, and 60 pound injectors. Aluminum flywheel, new Ron Francis wiring harness set up for MAF ECU has a tune chip. New big front Mount intercollerMany more details...#2 is the 2.3l carb'ed engine...installed in the first build back in 1976...approx 55,000 miles.
Brand new Quicktime bell housing, stock turbo coupe one and aaa...stock 2.3 manual bell
Transmission...got three, the standard T5 from the turbo coupe, or a T5WC from a 5.0 mustang, both have aftermarket shifters, the third is a 2.0 4 speed with Bellhousing.
Differential...the stock pinto is in the car now, but have a Explorer 31 spline that has been narrowed to 57" inches the same as pinto width. It has disc brakes, 3.73 gears, and it's posi traction.
Wheel 4.5 wide x 15 fronts, 8 x 15 rear, Weld aluminium...no tires
Body...runabout means it's got a hatch, once I got the car to Ohio used a penetrating rust seal to the body, as anyone who lived thru the one year rust thru of cars back then knows...you could hear them rust! It's 72 A/C car from factory...tinted glass, A/C and heater box removed...still have it. Body is straight, painted in Imron 48 years ago, has a BOSS Pinto body kit, custom hood scoop molded into steel hood. 67 Cougar tail lights, lovered back window, sun roof, Mustang pace car seats, 10 inch steering wheel, back seat is removed, got a 6 point roll bar kit, new stock fuel tank. Radiator flushed and tested, Got extra grills, fiberglass bumper...
Brakes...11 inch Granada rotor for front with brackets to mount GM Metric rotors. Rear are the Explorer diccs, new master cylinder with proportioning valve.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

WOW...July 2016! still have a Pinto "OverHaulen" project to complete...
other things eating into my time...347 dart block w/ TF 11R 205cc heads, 75mm Turbo, TH400, 92 notch FOX body...my 5th wheel RV...Sailing...garden...Oh...forgot about the work thing! too many things to do and not enought time.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

well, getting to be the end of Aug 2015...the "Hot Rod" Pinto is still awaiting for me to start putting parts back on her so she can get back on the road!  :o
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

74 PintoWagon

Don't feel bad, I've had one collecting dust for over 3 yrs now, can't tell what color it is now, lol..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

oldeguy

well she is still collecting dust.... :-\
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

still sitting in the garage....waiting for someone to do something!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

Quote from: Henrius on January 20, 2014, 05:19:28 PM
Wow, that custom hood rocks. Wish you were around my neck of the woods to fabricate body panels!
Thanks for the complement! let me tell you...that that was my third try for the look I wanted. and many hours of fabrication! someone on this sight is making some FRP body parts (not my hood)....do a search if your looking for spoilers, wheel spats??
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

Henrius

Wow, that custom hood rocks. Wish you were around my neck of the woods to fabricate body panels!
1973 Pinto Runabout with upgraded 2.0 liter & 4 speed, and factory sunroof. My first car, now restored, and better than it was when it rolled off the assembly line!

74 PintoWagon

If it's not one thing it's another, always something to deter a project, lol..
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

oldeguy

well...Pinto still on hold! my 92 turbo notch fox body broke the transmission...need to fix this >:(
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

8 sept 2013...my pinto still has not built itself yet! she's waiting for me to get off my a#* and help her to finish!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

PintoMaverick

Its taking me forever as well. Started working on it shortly after my son was born (he's 3 1/2 now) and in just the last couple months I finally got the turbo motor running in the car. I have another baby due in Feb so its time to get on the ball. So don't feel bad it happens to all of us lol.
1974 Pinto trunk model, 2000, 4 speed. 1971 Maverick Grabber, 4.6 DOHC 98 Cobra engine, 5speed, Mustang II front suspension, 4 link rear.

74 PintoWagon

Glad I'm not the only one that takes forever to get a project done, already hearing the wife whining about the wagon not being finished, but yet I get a list of crap to do every day, LOL.. ::) :D
Art
65 Falcon 2DR 200 IL6 with C4.

oldeguy

OK...just want to post...I still have the pinto, still in the same...I'll get aroundtuit some day....can't rush into a good project! LOL
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

Pinto5.0

Glad to hear you're ready to dig in. My '80 was sitting almost 2 years before I found the time to work on it.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

oldeguy

Well...got all my wood cut, split and stacked. New to me wood burner installed. Now ready for Winter here on the North coast. The boat is on the hard.
Now, It's time to dig out the Pinto and get the project mov'en again.
review my past posts....man, it's been over a year since I've worked on the Pinto! :'(
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

well...the Pinto is still on the back burner. got the 347 in the AC Cobra, got my 331 92 all polished and up for sale, and now working on a 92 302 turbo mustang...re-enforcing the battle boxes, subframe and all new delrin bushings on the control arms....oh, and just launched the boat!
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

it's about time to start working on the pinto again...the boat put away, got 6 cords of wood cut, split and stacked...the stumps ground out. cut a hole in the roof for my triple wall stove pipe...i think I'm about ready....
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar

oldeguy

Quote from: don33 on August 25, 2011, 06:20:20 PM
hey there oldeguy, bout ready to start on mine too. you bought that high dollar bell I see... my fuel cell came in last week and I just brought home my Miller 140 autoset welder.  now I'm ready...

hey don33...you'll love the wire feed machine. I got a lincoln sp?180c about a year ago...it's amazing on thin (under 0.125) sheet metal stuff, about ready to sell the old 225 buzz box.
yep...plan on doing some drag racing with the Pinto when completed...really want to keep my feet.
at some point...2.3L EFI T3/4stageIII FMIC 55#inj eecla3 90mm MAF 65mm T/B 5 spd 8.8 w/ 3:73  11" rotors, GM Metric, explorer rear disc 205 55 14 fronts 225 50 15 rears subframe connectors w/ a 6 point roll bar