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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Here is my '80 hatch I call Callisto

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Pinto5.0

I thought these turned out great



I have a few more I copied from his sale ad as well. It's a beauty.





'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

oldkayaker

Very nice looking fabrication.  The custom Pinto linked below had the same idea of using 68 Firebird lights but ended up using GM truck turn signal lights for a similar look.  I have more photos of that red Pinto (from eBay I believe).  I saved them to a Word file and can not figure out how to convert them to jpg or gif format for posting here.  If would like them, PM me your email address and I will send the file to you.
http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/my-v8-street-pinto-project/
Jerry J - Jupiter, Florida

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on September 11, 2010, 04:44:43 PM
Here is something I wanted to do 26 years ago to my first Pinto. '68 Firebird tail lights. I have been saving these just for that purpose & this is the car they will end up in. I have seen a sequential LED kit for these & down the road Ill probably upgrade.



It's amazing how well these fit in the back & I can't believe it's never been done before. This should be a very simple cut & weld & I'll probably spend 4X more time on bodywork versus installation.

It's not often you get to quote yourself or even see a one-off idea you came up with as a kid put to steel but here's my tail lights already done.



I wanted to do this back in '84 to my '74 Runabout but never did. I saw a blown Pro Street Pinto around  1990 at the Hot Rod Nats that pulled it off but it was Corvette Red. I wonder if this is that Pinto? Sure looks like it to me just repainted dark red.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

I finally found time to mount my radiator. There were a dozen ways to halfass it in but I wanted it to make it look good. Boy can I make anything into a project.



I made a new bottom on the core support that doubles as the lower mounting point.



The little rubber shipping protectors made perfect mounts so I used them in the bottom.



I still have to weld the upper mounts(ran out of gas for my mig)but they turned out great.



I need to find the right shouldered bolts this week to finish it off.



Also fitted my shroud. I will weld a tunnel on it once the engine & fan are in place.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Norman Bagi on July 17, 2012, 10:01:03 AMReally nice car, you may want to keep it as original as possible.  Just a thought.

Thank you. I backed off a lot of major changes I had planned for this car when I started to realize it was oddly optioned & I couldn't find another like it except the parts car another member sent me a pic of.

I'm stashing all the original parts like the 4-speed, front bumper(rear was garbage), stock wheels, etc., just in case it ever warrants a stock resto but it's still just a Pnto & I doubt it would even be worth 10K with a flawless restoration.

I'm changing a few things like painting the grille & headlight buckets satin black instead of argent, the bodyside molding & wheelwell trim is getting stored since I like it without & I have anouther set of brite window trim that's going to get anodized black to replace the originals & I'm putting '78 tail lights with black anodized trim to replace the stockers since I never liked the huge plastic '80 lights anyhow. All this is easily reversible down the road.

'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Norman Bagi

I was looking at a 77 with the same color scheme last year.  It was a Rallye, you may want to look into the Marti report on this car, I believe with that interior and since it originaly had the Rallye wheel that you actually have one. Nice work on the body and brakes, I had the same issue with the tie rods rotten almost through.  Good thing you got to it in time.  Really nice car, you may want to keep it as original as possible.  Just a thought.

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on July 16, 2012, 05:36:28 PM
The air dam below the bumper ?

Right now it is at Map351s place. He is making copies & will be selling them.

Cool, that's the last piece I need to complete my 73's frontend. I hope he posts pics. I was planning to run his other bumper until I decided to tub it.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

The air dam below the bumper ?

Right now it is at Map351s place. He is making copies & will be selling them.

Pinto5.0

What I really need to find now is that front valance that's on yours.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Would be nice to have that much shaved off mine with the heavy B2 engine.
Maybe I'll add more HP to off set this ?  ;D

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on July 16, 2012, 07:14:52 AM
Not fair you can find fiberglass parts ! LOL !

It was no easy task  :)  I swapped a chrome bumper with another member in Delaware for the glass one, drove to New York & got the hood from Pintoman1972 & found the fenders in Pittsburgh & the guy brought them to Canfield for me. And so ends the 2 year search for parts lol.

I figure the whole frontend is gonna weigh about 30 pounds.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1

Not fair you can find fiberglass parts ! LOL !

Pinto5.0

I didn't have time to work on the Pinto this weekend. I hit the Canfield swap meet friday, did 5 hours of yard work then spent 6 hours organizing my garage saturday then spent today mowing & trimming trees before work. Man I'm beat!

I did score a pair of fiberglass fenders for my '73 on friday so it wasn't a total loss.





They join the glass hood & bumper that I already rounded up.



By the time I get started on my '73 I should have everything I need to assemble it.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

Here's the post where I got the idea from.

http://www.fordpinto.com/general-help/wagon-sway-bar/msg25017/#msg25017

I'm gonna play around with it this weekend & see if it's close or won't work at all. A few zipties will hold it in place while I do the mental planning to make it fit.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

bbobcat75

you got a smoking deal on that sway bar kit its over 200.00 on ebay and summit.
good find well now i know what to look for online and at pick and pull.
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

Pinto5.0

Quote from: bbobcat75 on July 11, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
plz post pics of install of sway bar!!!

thanks

eric

I definitely will. I hope to get to the back of the car over the winter. I never planned to go as crazy on this car as I have with all this detail work & it's added cubic hours as well as dollars to the build.

I just wanted to get her running again & do this later but I realized I'd never get to it. My son turns 16 in a little over 4 years & I only have about 16 hours a week to work on his car on some weeks but less on most others. Add to that the time spent to maintain my houses & work on my own cars & you begin to realize that 4 years is gonna fly by FAST!

I think the hardest & most labor intensive portion of this build is behind me now that the frontend is complete & I can install the drivetrain. There really was no way to half-butt the front of the car since I replaced everything in sight. I could have skipped all the cleaning & painting but why not do it while it was torn completely apart. I think it adds to the quality of the build to have it look this good underneath.

Once the engine is in & running I can toss the rearend in & drive it, enjoy it & work any bugs out. I'll get it in my garage this winter & pull the axle, springs & fuel tank & go detail crazy back there. I want to tie the subframes, install the rear swaybar, weld in the new rear footwells & finish up under the car by spring.

I want to drive her next year so I'll worry about body/paint next fall. I have a hundred different ideas for body mods so I don't want to jump the gun & paint her too soon. I still need to find a flawless hood anyhow. Mine has a big hole cut under that scoop to clear the air cleaner hose when the turbo was on it.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

bbobcat75

plz post pics of install of sway bar!!!

thanks

eric
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

Pinto5.0

I found a Hellwig 7511 sway bar new in the clearance section at Summit for $30 so I nabbed it. It fits '83 & up Rangers.



I saw a post from '06 that showed eatmydust's installation of one from a Bronco II so I knew the width was correct. I'll get to it when I swap in the 8" rearend & detail the back of the car.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

Take a look at this one for your V6.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SGT-CU871/

It has the correct sized outlet & inlet on the correct sides, the core is similar in size to the one I found for the 2.3L & it's designed to cool a V6 Jeep Cherokee so it's got the capacity. It even looks like it mounts at the sides which may make installation as simple as drilling a few holes.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

bbobcat75

thanks for the info, been looking for something for my v6 bobcat that looks factory and have no luck, but might steal this idea for my 2.3 wagon.!!!
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

Pinto5.0

Quote from: bbobcat75 on July 09, 2012, 06:32:07 PM
what is the radiator for?
as far as car make and model??
thanks
eric

looks like a 2.3 setup rad. not v6, by the hose locations!

It's for an '87 to '96 Dodge Dakota. I spent 10 hours researching radiators to find one with the maximum core height & width that fit & had a 1 1/4" upper left & 1 1/2" lower right hose fittings plus a fill cap on top. That was a tall order & I can honestly say I think this may be the only radiator in existence(other than stock Pinto) that measured up. I looked at more than 400 before I stumbled on this one.

The part # is CU981 & unlike a replacement single core Pinto radiator, this one is usually in stock at most parts stores. This one has the pins on the bottom that drop into holes(I'll drill holes & use wiring grommets for those) & shouldered bolts that fasten it at the top. I may grab a pair at the junkyard if I can't match them up at the parts store. Some exhaust bolts look pretty close but I wont know till I measure them.

The core measures 17 5/8" tall by 21 5/8" wide & it's a 2 core downflow that's only 1 1/4" thick.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

bbobcat75

what is the radiator for?
as far as car make and model??
thanks
eric

looks like a 2.3 setup rad. not v6, by the hose locations!
1975 mercury bobcat 2.8 auto
1975 ford pinto - drag car - 2.3l w/t5 trans - project car

Pinto5.0

I swung by Summit between runs & picked up my radiator today. It was $107 but I had a $20 off coupon so with tax I spent about $94 for a brand new radiator with a warranty that fits perfectly, will cool a V6, is easily replacable & should take stock Pinto hoses.



All I have to do is make a mount & I already have it designed in my head. I can't wait to tackle this & get it outta the way.



The plan for this car will eventually include an EFI Turbo set up & since this is already a fresh turbo engine it will be a bolt-on deal plus the wiring. This radiator was chosen with that thought in mind......
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

It was waaaaaay too damn hot this weekend to work on Callisto but I did spend a few hours sweating to install the new master cylinder that replaces the new rebuilt one that was put on prior to the car being parked back in the 90's. I'm not big on rebuilt M/C's to begin with let alone a nearly 20 year old one.



Also recieved the correct passenger side rack boot & installed it along with the swaybar. I tightened everything up, installed the last cotter pins & pumped everything full of grease. All that's left is to bleed the brakes & take her in for an alignment once she's road ready.



I hope to have the radiator & make the mounts next weekend. I'm buying a radiator for a late 80's Dodge Dakota. It measures 18" x 22" & will cool the 3.9L V6 so my 2.3L should never get hot. I wanted a modern plastic & aluminum radiator & this one already has a 1 1/4" inlet on the top left & a 1 1/2" outlet on the bottom right. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be able to run stock radiator hoses which is a plus. 
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Reeves1 on July 02, 2012, 11:01:26 AM
Very nice work !

Thanks  8)  I've tried to get this project started for nearly 2 years. I pulled the engine in Oct. 2010 to change the leaky rear main seal & remove the turbo & it took until now to find time to work on her. I waited long enough lol....

Put in 5 more hours before work & got the wiring straight. I wont spiral wrap it until I add the MSD wiring.



I also cleaned & painted the left fender.



Then I painted the engine compartment in gloss. The satin wasn't doing anything for me....





I think it may be time to install the engine & transmission so I can finish the wiring & make mounts for the aluminum radiator. I may get to drive her before winter afterall...... :o
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Reeves1


Pinto5.0

Today I decided to tackle the wiring. I removed the Duraspark wiring as well as the voltage regulator wires. I'm converting to an MSD ignition & a 130 amp 1 wire alternator so there was no use leaving it there.





The voltage regulator wiring was crumbling & the main wire from the fusible link was losing all its insulation. The rest of the harness looks great but I'm adding some weatherpak connectors in a few spots to make it easier to hide it under the inner fenders & run it through the holes.



Now that the frontends done I can get a look at the new lower stance. Once the engine & transmission is installed it should come down right where I want it to be.



Snapped a pic of the window sticker & build sheet.





Apparently this car has a special order 42 Gold Sports Package whatever that is.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Pinto5.0

Quote from: Srt on July 01, 2012, 02:40:25 AM
rear window louvers:

"......All parts were included but there is a series of holes running up them with no explanation of why. I cant figure out why the holes are present but I found the same thing on pics of other Interpart louvers so I guess its something they just did..."


concerning the holes in the slats; they may have been or are for a 'stiffener' to prevent the slats from flapping in the breeze and to eliminate vibration

It seemed like something was missing but I never thought about a vibration reducer. It's probably the same principal as twisting the straps when you secure a load on a flatbed truck. If you don't twist them they catch the wind.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Srt

rear window louvers:

"......All parts were included but there is a series of holes running up them with no explanation of why. I cant figure out why the holes are present but I found the same thing on pics of other Interpart louvers so I guess its something they just did..."


concerning the holes in the slats; they may have been or are for a 'stiffener' to prevent the slats from flapping in the breeze and to eliminate vibration
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Pinto5.0

Quote from: bbobcat75 on June 30, 2012, 01:49:05 PM
that  is going to be on detailed pinto!!! i want to do my that much to my 75 bobcat hatch, ill do it when i retire in 40 years, it will give me a project!!!

great work!! the end result will be awsome!!!!!

Thanks  ;D  I didn't earn the nickname "CAPTAIN OVERKILL" for nothing. It was going to be some simple parts swapping until my OCD took over & you see where that takes me LOL....

At least I wont have to do anything twice. All I know is my son better take care of this sucker or I'll take it back  :-\

Here's todays progress. Went to Kenny's Rod & Custom this morning & picked up new T-bolts & braided brake lines for the front. The stock Pinto lines were hitting the spindle & they were a little short so I got 20" lines.



I installed the Energy Suspension control arm bushings & the new Moog ball joint & started assembly.



This side went together easy compared to the passenger side.



In went the new KYB GR2 gas shocks.



Followed by the brake lines(zip tied hose over them for rub protection) then the strut rods(with poly bushings) & steering rack.





I didn't put the sway bar on yet because I didn't realize the right side steering rack bellows differs from the left so I ordered one & have to wait for it so I can button everything up.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze