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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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dave1987

Yeah, it's a fuse holder. Wire goes in one way, AGU fuse is held (essentially suspended) in the middle and another run of wire goes in on the other side.

I don't crank up the audio on my 78' either, I just enjoy having SOME bass that smooths out the music. The audio in my car is better than my home theater and it's cheap compared to the home theater! Sound in the car is full, hits all of the highs and the lows without any vibration in the panel or distortion in the speakers. 8" Sony XPlode in the trunk in a little box, a 250WATT rockford fosgate amp my bother was getting rid of, Pioneer 6" full range speakers in the kick panels, and full range 6x9's in the rear deck.

Jazz and classical are BEAUTIFUL in the car! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

78_starsky

Thanks for the info dave,  I am getting tooo old to be cranking up the tunes in a car anymore so that doesn't scare me... LOL  however, the wiring for the amp is 8GA straight off the battery through the firewall (grommets of course) into the fuse block. the line has a 30 Amp fuse built into it, if that one blows first I know I have probs.  this is just a tiny amp rated to draw only 15 amps, so should be ok (I hope that is)  i have to ask thou,  what is that black fosgate thing? a fuse holder?

cheers

dave1987

If you are running a lot of power to your amp, and even if not, you could go the same route I am going, as well.

I have one of these installed under the hood before the 8 gauge wire (originally wanted 4 gauge) to my amp runs into the car through the firewall:

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/products/2007/575/p575RFFAGU-f.jpeg

I've blown a couple 40 amp fuses off my 250 WATT (RMS) 90's model rockford fosgate amp. I had to up it to a 60 amp fuse to keep it from blowing. No issues though, and even with 8 gauge wire I shouldn't have any problems.

My brother who installs custom car stereo systems is fond of the dual fuse blocks when running two amps, one for sub and one for regular speakers:

https://www.addison-electronique.com/catalog/images/produits/section-c/030125.jpg

My deck runs off the stock radio wire, fuse located at Pinto fuse block. Would like to redo my wiring some day though.

Just a thought since you are going to be doing some custom car audio here.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

78_starsky

Thanks Dwayne, :) 

Yesterday I was hoping to get a good day on the car (until it was time to go to the track) was working away when my uncle called and said that his pit crew bailed and he needed more help. OK no prob,  I was getting started on testing the sound system when he called....  Today I was able to get back at 'er and was able to test everything!!! worked like a charm.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/testingsoundsystem.jpg

Here is a close up picture of the back of the (under dash) console. This shows how I will be running the extras in this build. I placed in another set of 2 for good measure today (just in case) the common is daisy linked and will be dual grounded from both the motor and the chassis.  there are 2 future problems I see that I could encounter with this set up....  1. blowing a fuse and having to take both, the middle console and this one out to change a fuse, and 2. making sure there is enough extra wire coiled up to be able to pull the console forward enough with out pulling the wires too hard.   ** note to self - ADD extra 18 inches of wire **

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/fusesbackofconsole.jpg

I didn't take a pic of the front of the console, however, this is where I set up 2 toggle switches (so far) they are on the top section that is closest to the under dash.  room in there is pretty tight and I need to place some rubber strips there to make sure  the switches don't ground to the frame holder. Before I place in this section for bolting I will be laying a rubber backing over the fuse holders to protect them from any misshaps and not getting shorted out.

After I knew this system was going to work I took it apart and then proceeded to strip the back seats out of the car. pulled up all the rugs, and then removed the plastic side wall panels. This ol car looks pretty bare as she sits now.  painted the metal back seat base. (after taking it all apart first).  Ran some of the wire lengths to the back of the car for the amp and then the run for the front speakers. needs a few more wire runs, and she is ready for the new carpet Angie was able to buy at her fabric supplier.

will post more as she gets completed....

Oh I almost forgot,  this morning I went back to the JY, went looking for nice allen key headed bolts to complete the plexiglass. needed something that would look different. I had already looked at auto parts places for these type of bolts, no luck, my last effort would have been to a fastener place and pay throu the nose.  After talking to the guys in the office they said go to the European section (and ignore that sign that says get a pass card to enter)  well dang wouldn't you know it, after looking for 5 mins I get to peer under the hood of a 98 Mercedes and what would you guess they use to hold the fuel injectors onto the intake?? yep, allen head bolts :)  gotta love JY's. No charge to boot!!!   Tapped (as in tap & die) the bolts into the tangs that will be holding it down. will post pic after she is complete.

cheers

dga57

I love your use of the pinstripe on the interior of the door!  Looks sharp... as does everything else the two of you have done so far!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

78_starsky

LOL... I jut looked at the driver's door pic and it looks like the pinstripe tape is all wavey,  the pic must have distorted on the resizing before I posted it. the tape is straight in real life...LOL

78_starsky

Thanks dave,  I wasn't sure if I was going to keep posting the half completed bits and run a full (work in progress) thread or if it is better to post the completed works? 

glad you like the work :)     under the speaker section the amp  will be hung upside down and all the wiring will be hidden under there over top of the black coverings.  The amp will be wired direct from a fuse panel that I have bolted to the plastic console (under dash) isn't wired up yet,  will show pics of how I will be doing this (done this) each unit will have independant switches for live power.  head unit will be fused direct and switched, as will the amp.   bolted in a 4 (glass fuse) holder for running the options, IE secondary switched lighting,  stereo,  (maybe second cigarrete lighter for plug in things, seeing that stock location is hard to get to. (will place this into the mustang console).

The motor parts should be here by end of next week and I can start to build up this one.   unwrapped the reground cam today to take a look at it. wow the shop did a GREAT job on the grind. in all totaled $190 (can $) for the grind of the stock shaft and resurfaced 12 lifters.  money well spent I figure. 

cheers

dave1987

Wow, that white is amazing! I love the pearl in it, really brings the paint to LIFE!

Great progress, love the details in the progress updates, keep up the good work!
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

78_starsky

the last couple of days consisted of finishing off the interior doors. Angie wasn't happy with the clear that was layed on the white so she sanded it down and recleared them with tons of "bright white pearl & flamboyance sparkle"  when you see the glove box you will see the sparkles.  after it was dried on went the pinstriping. 

glove box

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/gloveboxashtray.jpg

passenger side

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/passclearedpinstripe.jpg

driver side

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/driveclearedpinstripe.jpg

also last few days I started the rear speaker case, and the white circle you see is plexiglass (white is the protective covering) it will be clear, and underneath the see through plexi will be the spare tire that will be seen with the spare tire cover that will be white and inlaid a red pinto emblem. (will post pics when it is finished).  the plywood will be finished with the same red that the dash pad and the console will be made of.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/rearspeakersb4.jpg

hopefully tomorrow will get he dash/steering finished and the wiring near completion.

cheers

78_starsky

Not a very productive day, however, The dash's clusater was cleaned, lights checked, and placed into the dash.  This gives the 1/2 way finished look as to what the rest will start to look like with the dash cover.  Hoping tomorrow to get the rest of the steering stuff into place, and finishing off all the under dash wiring.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/clusterin.jpg

78_starsky

hey dave,  the plan is to just wash it up, then make a custom glued on refinish from the same vynil that we used on the dash cover, will mold & sew it into place, leaving the tranny indicator dial off and planning on building a white (vynil) area with the slot in it for the (auto) shifter.  For the cubby and where it will fit the front end we are thinking about mating the red vynil to it be using foam (what ever thicknesses will work) and tight butting into place.  will keep posting pics on this new little project.    scarce probaly doesn't start to describe these... I was in total shock when I seen it sitting in there, and complete.  funny thing is it was already unscrewed and everything... just sitting there waiting for the taking.... cheers

dave1987

Awesome score! Those consoles are getting scarce! I'm curious as to what you might do to fill in where the center console mates with the stock center cubby. I have a gap at mine as well and just cut out some "chunks" of the left over end of the MII console and stuck them in there to fill it in temporarily, it looks decent though.

Try cleaning it up really well and use some SEM brand vinyl prep. It's like a neutralizer/cleaner for vinyl and ensures it's completely clean of oils and dirt. Once that's done spray it down with some SEM brand "landau black" (or which ever color you prefer) vinyl paint. It's flexible, long lasting, durable, and looks INCREDIBLE.

Watching this makes me wish I could keep Brownie! :(
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

78_starsky

hey dave, sorry just seen your comment,  yes we can FEEL the excitement, just watching this build go together is a good feeling. sitting in her when the key is on and the motor is turning is going to be a whole other ball game.... neither of us have ever driven a Pinto before so we are really looking forward to bringing this ol' one back to life.

cheers

78_starsky

Strange things happen when you least expect them to happen... today was one of those days.  Went on an errand and on the way back home happened to pass by a JY that I have driven past a few times, never stopped in there before. today I thought "I wonder if they have any 2.8 motors for parts" went in talked to the guy and he said maybe there might be one on an old bronco that is out back, go look.  I was huh??? I am allowed back there? he said yes on sundays it is a bring your own tools and take what you are looking for... ohhh boy...  venturing past the Ford cars on my way to see if the bronco has/had a 2.8, my eyes spot this old 78 mustang, the brakes stopped me in my tracks and peeking in I spot a complete center console.... yeppers that will be coming home with me. went back and sked the ol' guy how much,  30 and it is yours.  wow  we have a new project to recover.  also grabbed a nice set 6X9 speakers, and some mint shape chrome window winders (from a 80 LTD wagon) and all the cluster light bulbs from the mustang....

here are a couple pics of the "raw" console before we attempt the new vinyl coverings in the near future.

before cutting it down to size.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/rawfreshconsole.jpg

after

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/rawcuttoshape.jpg

cheers

dave1987

This is going to be one fun Pinto to drive once it's done! You'll FEEL the excitement just sitting behind the wheel! :D
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

78_starsky

Progress being made on putting the dash back together.  Finaly a nice day today, no rain!!! So we installed the new dashpad and started placing back in the dash goodies.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/dashpad4.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/dashpad1.jpg

78_starsky

Picked this up yesterday,  this wheel should complement and finish off the interior.   The fellow who sold me this wheel had it sitting/hung on the wall of his garage/workshop for 15 years and knew that when /if he was to ever sell it the wheel would be sold to someone who was doing a project and would love this wheel. Paid 100 for it and these are getting rare. the oak on it is in perfect shape and the chrome is mint.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/Swheel.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/wheelside.jpg

cheers

78_starsky

Last of the dash pics for now, that is untill she is put back together.

here it is white, still needs clears, weather has not been nice to us, raining solid last few days so can't continue with the spraying.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/whiteb4clears.jpg

found a killer steering wheel on CL tonight, will be picking it up after work tommorow, will post a pic of it.  It is one of those deals that doesn't come around often.

cheers

78_starsky

Thanks Lar,  We have been truely enjoying the efforts and accomplishments in this build, tons of fun, and will be great when the day comes and we get to sit in her and turn the fresh new heart over....  vrooom.  I forgot how easy and fresh it is to work on Ford's simplier days of cars.  Not like working on our daily drivers, 2 ford rangers, and a chevS10.  these old cars are nice and simple... no computers, no added junk to mess things up, just good ol' plain car.

cheers

larjohnson

WOW!!!!!! That's all I have to say is WOW!!!!.  I'm so jealous, this will be a spectacular car once you have her done.  The mural is exceptional.... Can't wait to see more pictures.  Have a great time restoring this wonderful piece of Ford history.

Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

78_starsky

Updating progress... (wich we will do every week or so... or when something good is done)

Started cleaning up the interior last couple days. Have the block and heads back form the shop and getting ready to figure out the parts list that will be going into the build.  Cleaned up the ignition holder (the piece that holds the key/turn signals) when I first started with it there was no ignition and the column was torn apart from last owner.  I looked over the parts that house the key and figured it was hooped. Before I was to chuck it and find a different one I guessed that maybe I could fix the seized pieces. After 2 hours of working it and soaking it I was able to get it to slide, painted it up and regreased the 2 steering wheel bearings.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/ignitswitchbefore.jpg

cleaned
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/ignitswitchafter.jpg

todays attention was focused on placing in the gauge set that I was going to put into my truck.  After debating about it, decided that yes I will put these into the car instead.

This is how I did it, and if you are going to do this I am going to give you a couple pointers, to help make it easier.  This set comes in a set of three water/oil/volt and has a metal mounting bracket.  I liked the distance that the package set the gauges at, so I placed the cardboard holder onto the dash where the gauges were going. after the circles where were I wanted them I scribed them into the dash/paint.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/scribecircles.jpg

I used a dremel to do all the cutting and grinding with.  In the bits there is a fine scribing type bit. Using this makes a heavier imprint/etching to see the circle.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/etchingcircle.jpg

etch in all 3 holes.  Next comes 1 of the important issues. I used the metal cutting wheel on the dremel. Carefully cutting light (not to go through) on the INSIDE of the etched circle.  the blade being careful not to damage the Aluminum dash.  If pushed hard the straight wheel would make a straight cut and not a circle. time and PATIENTS is required.  the reason to make sure to stay inside the etching is becuase after the circle is cut out you can clean up the hole and keep going to fit the gauges in, If out side the etch you can take away tooo much material and screw up your dash. CHECK to make sure taht no wires are sitting close to the are (hidden behind) where you are about to cut. A dremel will cut them before you are aware that you are that close. And the small sparks and smoke can distract your attention, so check that no wires are in danger.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/cuttingwheel.jpg

after cutting out the grind till the circle fits. On my set of gauges there is a top tang/holder, use what ever bit you think will get out that tiny amount of metal so it fits properly.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/firstdone.jpg

final product.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/finished.jpg

After the holes and the gauges fit, it was time to prep the dash for painting. This is primed and ready to finish the paint job tomorrow.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/primed.jpg

cheers

78_starsky

2 killer days work, 4 hours yesterday and 8 today produced this "old school" art work.  12 pics showing the proceedure. After resanding the underside and starting from scratch fixed all the oils from leeching.

after 2 clears and a wet sand
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/01after2clearwetsand.jpg

taped and cut
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/02tapedcut.jpg

blue & yellow laid
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/03blueyellow.jpg

blue yellow & reds
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/04blueyellowred.jpg

laying darks
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/05darks.jpg

after this is mainly all air brushings
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/06brushingdetails.jpg

highlights
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/07highlights.jpg

final touch ups
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/08finaltouches.jpg

end of all painting before any clears are applied
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/09endb4clear.jpg

all tape is off before retaping then adding the first layer of clear
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/10b4clear.jpg

took this pic reversed angle to show the sparkles in the deep blues and purples.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/11finished3clear.jpg

after 3 coats of clear
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/12finalproduct.jpg

we are still going to give this one more wet sand then 3 more clears to seal the paint. We will let this sit now till next weekend to cure the work.

78_starsky

ahhh  time,  yep that killer of great intentions.... I know and that other scary one is procrastination....  funny how work, bills and family seem to collide so well with projects and fun stuff.  That is were the two of us are pretty lucky our hobbies and interests are the same.

You can relate then to the work involved in body work. :)  it is funny when Angie and I talk to people about cars and things and she talks about painting and body work, guys have to take this second look and ask... what did you just say? ... then they raise an eyebrow as in... hmmm ya right, till they actualy see her work then they understand.  some of her work on has won their owners trophies, and she has a couple of her own downstairs.

Do you do auto paint also, or just bodywork?

dga57

Quote from: 78_starsky on May 17, 2010, 12:05:48 AM
LOL... I guess that depends, we work best as a team. The cover was built and sprayed by me, (she cleared it) however, for the airfare I guess you get two for the price of one... how big is your dent(s).  She does do excellent body work thou!!!  While she went to work on redoing the hood I went to work on the covers.  The other side of the car is mainly all sanding now with a couple small dings to get out.   I will ask her tomorrow what the rate will be ...  :lol:

I actually am capable of pretty good bodywork myself... my problem is lack of time.   One of these days... ::)

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

78_starsky

LOL... I guess that depends, we work best as a team. The cover was built and sprayed by me, (she cleared it) however, for the airfare I guess you get two for the price of one... how big is your dent(s).  She does do excellent body work thou!!!  While she went to work on redoing the hood I went to work on the covers.  The other side of the car is mainly all sanding now with a couple small dings to get out.   I will ask her tomorrow what the rate will be ...  :lol:

dga57

How much $$$ to rent Angie for a week? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

78_starsky

The last couple days have been heartbreak and joy.  We decided to do a custom mural under the hood, and had all going smooth till this morning when we were ready to start to cut into the heart of the project.  Up till today the under side has been lightly sanded, 2 base coats, 2 clears then a full wet sand, then frisket papered and given the blue/purple highlights.  the picture of the circle with the hood laying on the car shows what it looked like this morning, and we were ready to start the horse.  As luck would have it, after taping off the under belly and cutting the image, when we started to pull the tape off for spraying the detail the clear was haveing a chemical reaction to the tape & paint.  when we pulled up the whole set was lifting with the tape. heartbreaking!!! Angie figures that with this being under side of the hood oils were still being trapped under the base coat. only one thing to do...  we had to take the underside back down to the original paint and then sand it down more and then give it 2 coats of epoxy primer.

After the primer went on then 2 base red then 2 more coats of clear.  the hood is ready now to start again with the wet sanding and retaping for the circle....  today was a let down...

Not to be fully bummed out we decided to venture onto doing the custom valve covers.

these are the original 2.8 covers after 2 primer, 2 base coats and 2 clear.  the added touch comes from the baby horse....  enjoy :)

shadowing the circle
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/1sttrysprayed.jpg

how it was this morning
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/1sttry.jpg

after taping and ready to cut
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/1sttapeoff.jpg

valve covers
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/donevalvecover.jpg

78_starsky

This is at the end of 1 weeks work.  Angie has done wonders to the passenger side, the dent is gone, and she is just about finished the tiny bit of work that needed to be done.  pics as follows.

here is the dent when she started

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/day3.jpg


here is how it looks when we turned off the lights tonight.
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/day4.jpg

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/day4-2.jpg

78_starsky

Ya I hear ya,  a super cleaner that will take any old painted thing and turn it back into showroom gleen.... dang wouldn't that be worth a 1,000 bucks a gallon....  cheers,  you are really going to town on your build looking good!!

dave1987

Lol, it's okay. Wish there was some type of cleaner that did that much, I wouldn't have to buff all the paint on Brownie! :P
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!