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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

76 Pinto Runabout Squire in Junkyard

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blupinto

Well, heck! Then I'll chip in $20. We have to liberate her from that junkyard... we'll worry about her permanent home later... ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

Wow, this thread really grew since I last checked it! lol

I would be happy to chip in $20 to the cause if we can get people together to get it out of the yard.

I would be thrilled to get the car out and restore it as the club mascot! We also have the Mizar clone that Pintony has......

If I were to get the car and restore it, I wouldn't want it to stay up here in Idaho. I would prefer it go to live with someone who is more central in the club region.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

blupinto

That's naugahyde to you! lol. And anyway the plaid IS country... the cowhide and brown... that's hillbilly! lol.
One can never have too many Pintos!

Bigtimmay

thats not country me painting it light brown top fading into a dark brown bottom and attaching a set of long horn horns to the hood and adding a AAAAA-OOOOGA horn then covering all the seats in cowhide (or becky freindly) faux cowhide LOL and calling it the Southern Comfort edition pinto is country! Oh and cant forget the new and improved bigblock ford and 4wheel drive! LOL

That yellow is fords worste idea ever aside from saying a hemi was too expensive to build and letting chrysler get it LOL.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

dga57

Ford used that yellow in all their plaids back then.  My folks had a '77 Bobcat Villager with red/yellow/white plaid seats!
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Quote from: Bigtimmay on April 18, 2010, 01:06:23 AM
a green plaid would be fine well depends on the fabric but that godawful piss yellow with the green is just horrifying im gunna have nightmares of it eating me! LOL Seriously though new seats like dark green ouside material and a silver and green or somthing other then yellow plaind material in the middle with the pinto pony emblem embroidered in all 4 seat backs!


HEY! I like those plaid seats! Yellow and green were '70s colors! Plus, you kind of felt like you were sitting at a picnic on the ground with plaid seats like that! Very country! I like country! ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

No doubt... but the car has A LOT of issues that TLC and cash can resolve.


The funny thing is... Dave has his marching orders... and he doesn't know it...yet.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
One can never have too many Pintos!

Bigtimmay

a green plaid would be fine well depends on the fabric but that godawful piss yellow with the green is just horrifying im gunna have nightmares of it eating me! LOL Seriously though new seats like dark green ouside material and a silver and green or somthing other then yellow plaind material in the middle with the pinto pony emblem embroidered in all 4 seat backs!
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

dga57

I don't doubt that in the least!  There ARE businesses however, who specialize in that stuff and with $60,800 at our disposal, I'll bet we can get it done! :smile:
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blupinto

Dwayne, I was only suggesting... if Dave could find someone getting rid of their green plaid seats and they're in good or better condition, why not? Then that's money saved to put into, I dunno...the engine, woodgrain, trim, etc. THAT- the trim- will be very hard to find, I think... at least for the rear.
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on April 18, 2010, 12:57:41 AM
Well Tim, if it's gonna be the Grandma Car From Hell it needs to keep the green plaid (beautiful to me) seat scheme... new fabric or at least seats in WAY better condition anyway... ;D

If we're sinking $10 a piece in this thing, I think we need to splurge on NEW fabric for those green plaid seats!
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blupinto

Quote from: Bigtimmay on April 17, 2010, 11:58:34 PM
a 60k pinto i dunno how to tell you this but thats things not rare enough for me to put that into it LOL atleast not stock.
Do the same paint scheme with a nicer green and get rid of that godaful ugly plaid interior oh and no way to a v6 unless is a 3.8 Supercharged out of a supercoupe hahahahaha and swap it to a 5 speed. Oh and the woodgrain on the side that someone painted white so needs to be wood again :lol: then it can be called "grandma car from hell".

Well Tim, if it's gonna be the Grandma Car From Hell it needs to keep the green plaid (beautiful to me) seat scheme... new fabric or at least seats in WAY better condition anyway... ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: Bigtimmay on April 18, 2010, 12:34:06 AM
lol if i had a pinto with 500 miles on it by the end of the year it would have 3000 miles or more atleast id drive it everyday just cause i could my 68 gmc had 45000 original miles when i bought it for the low low price of 500 LOL cause its previous owner was an idiot and only had 3 of the 8 wires hooked to the spark plugs and said it wouldnt run so he parked it i drove it everyday when i was in highschool and as soon as i get a place to put it.  It will becoming apart for a full frame up rebuild with new parts and a new motor i really want a 427 to stuff under the hood of it.

My 1983 F-150 4x4 only has 69000 original miles, but it DOES get driven... just not a lot! :lol:
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Bigtimmay

lol if i had a pinto with 500 miles on it by the end of the year it would have 3000 miles or more atleast id drive it everyday just cause i could my 68 gmc had 45000 original miles when i bought it for the low low price of 500 LOL cause its previous owner was an idiot and only had 3 of the 8 wires hooked to the spark plugs and said it wouldnt run so he parked it i drove it everyday when i was in highschool and as soon as i get a place to put it.  It will becoming apart for a full frame up rebuild with new parts and a new motor i really want a 427 to stuff under the hood of it.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

dga57

Quote from: Bigtimmay on April 18, 2010, 12:16:16 AM
LOL thats where im different from everyone else i dont think anything should stay stock.
If i had a 1971 Convertible hemi cuda i wouldnt even keep it stock and i sure as heck wouldnt leave it parked id drive it as much as i possibly could no car should be a garage kept show queen.

With VERY few exceptions, I agree with you about garage queens.  My personal feeling is that cars were meant to be driven!  In the rare instance where a car has not been driven for some reason, for many years, then I can see the point of not putting miles on it.  One of our members here in Oklahoma owns a Pinto with less than 500 original miles on it.  After all this time, and so few miles, I think he is doing the right thing by not driving it.  I've seen it, and it is essentially a brand new car.  Personally, though... as much as I admire that, I have no desire to own a car I cannot drive!

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Bigtimmay

LOL thats where im different from everyone else i dont think anything should stay stock.
If i had a 1971 Convertible hemi cuda i wouldnt even keep it stock and i sure as heck wouldnt leave it parked id drive it as much as i possibly could no car should be a garage kept show queen.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

dga57

Quote from: Bigtimmay on April 18, 2010, 12:05:09 AM
lol i never said nuttin about not paying 10 bucks i just said i wanna see it go beyond its "Glory Days" If its guunna be a mascot it needs to be a BADARSE mascot. LOL

I'd probably be okay with that on most any other car, but the Squire Runabouts are extremely rare... a one year only (and not particularly popular) offering.  They really SHOULD be kept stock for just for the historical aspect.
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Bigtimmay

lol i never said nuttin about not paying 10 bucks i just said i wanna see it go beyond its "Glory Days" If its guunna be a mascot it needs to be a BADARSE mascot. LOL
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

dga57

Quote from: Bigtimmay on April 17, 2010, 11:58:34 PM
a 60k pinto i dunno how to tell you this but thats things not rare enough for me to put that into it LOL atleast not stock.
Do the same paint scheme with a nicer green and get rid of that godaful ugly plaid interior oh and no way to a v6 unless is a 3.8 Supercharged out of a supercoupe hahahahaha and swap it to a 5 speed. Oh and the woodgrain on the side that someone painted white so needs to be wood again :lol: then it can be called "grandma car from hell".

Come on, Tim... your share is only $10.00.  It's worth that isn't it????
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Bigtimmay

a 60k pinto i dunno how to tell you this but thats things not rare enough for me to put that into it LOL atleast not stock.
Do the same paint scheme with a nicer green and get rid of that godaful ugly plaid interior oh and no way to a v6 unless is a 3.8 Supercharged out of a supercoupe hahahahaha and swap it to a 5 speed. Oh and the woodgrain on the side that someone painted white so needs to be wood again :lol: then it can be called "grandma car from hell".
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

blupinto

Baby steps all the way... right now we need 45 people to pitch in $10 or 90 to pitch in $5... he needs to secure the car... THEN the magic will begin! ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on April 17, 2010, 11:51:51 PM
smarty-pants!   :showback:  lol.

Rome wasn't built in a day, you know!  Baby steps, Darlin'... baby steps!
;)
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blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on April 17, 2010, 11:46:58 PM
SHOOTY! I'd be in!  :D

Hot dog!!! That's $20.00!  That's only $60,780.00 to go!

Dwayne :smile:
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blupinto

ok I misspelled shoot... you'll see why soon enough. ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

One can never have too many Pintos!

dga57

Quote from: blupinto on April 17, 2010, 10:36:01 PM
Dave, if I could you know I would... Idaho is too far away! I wish you could somehow finagle a way to get it yourself and restore it to its former glory. I know you can't...What would be great is if we all chipped in $10 and maybe the restoration would be a feature in Pinto Times magazine... Pinto's Progress (slowly fixing her up). You'd get to drive her but then in a way she'd belong to all of us. Our club mascot... It would be a rotten shame to let this rot away or be parted out to death. Sigh. :'(


Okay... I'll throw in ten bucks if the other 6079 members here will!  That should be enough to put this car back in  top-notch shape with enough left over for a tank of gas!  Maybe we could get Matt's restoration guy to do the work!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Dave, if I could you know I would... Idaho is too far away! I wish you could somehow finagle a way to get it yourself and restore it to its former glory. I know you can't...What would be great is if we all chipped in $10 and maybe the restoration would be a feature in Pinto Times magazine... Pinto's Progress (slowly fixing her up). You'd get to drive her but then in a way she'd belong to all of us. Our club mascot... It would be a rotten shame to let this rot away or be parted out to death. Sigh. :'(
One can never have too many Pintos!

dave1987

Got a call back from the yard today. The owner of the yard only wants $450 for the whole car. There is no title for it so it would be a parts car. If someone is interested, send me a PM and I can get you the name of the owner of the yard's number. Not bad for the car, still some usable stuff on it. The glass seems good, minus the windshield and passenger door, seats could be recovered, back seat is in good shape, hood is pretty straight, motor and trans still in the car, A/C system still there, Steering column, axle still there, fuel tank I think was pulled, but might still be there, front bumper could be replated, rear bumper is caved in on the passenger side, but could be straightened and replated, dash could be transplanted, radiator in decent shape.

Any bites?
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

popbumper

How very sad. I was discussing with 78TXPony yesterday, how few of these cars are left. Those who care need to get them NOW before they are all gone. Supply and demand, my friends. As demand goes up (and it will!), the cars will become more rare and pricey.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08