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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Entropy, I saw a Vega done up in that style the other day. Boy was that thing cool. For a Vega that is....
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entropy

Well, my original answer is almost exactly the car that Blink77 built, but a '72.  However, the idea I'm currently toying with for my current car is a phantom 1972 Pinto A/FX car put back on the street.  Pure gasser style.  Tall stance, tube front axle, fenderwell headers...the whole damn nine. Purists: send your hate mail to entropy156@...  ;D 
1972 Hoonabout
SBF swap
-308 cid
-CNC ported Brodix heads
-Edelbrock Super Victor intake
-QuickFuel 750 double pumper built by Siebert
-Single stage NOS Cheater system
8" rear 4.11 posi
G-Force 5 Speed
10 point rollcage


450-ish rwhp on motor.....something a bit more than that on the spray

71pintoracer

Quote from: Carolina Boy on August 17, 2009, 10:24:35 PM


My dream Pinto would be one found in a barn undercover with only milage from the dealership to the barn and free for cleaning the barn!!!! :rolleye:
Yea but CB, it might look like this by now!! :lol:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

pintoman2.0



Well, it appears CaroliaBoy has the most reasonable dream of them all. I bet that will happen for you, maybe tomorrow. HAHAHA.

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Pale Roader

Wow... lotta love for the later models. Thats pretty strange actually. Most cars get no love after the government molested their souls in 73, and again in 75-6. Bigger bumpers, smog stuff, heavier cars, lamer engines (well, not in this case i guess), disco interiors, and generally just beaten pretty bad with the ugly stick compared to the muscle-car years. Maybe the fact that there was never any performance heritage with these cars to ruin...??.?

I love that 71 look. Nice and tidy, simple, neat. Get rid ov those wheelbarrow rollers and add some performance and i dont understand how anyone could dislike 'em. My Pinto gets all kinda ov compliments, and its a 76. All i did was throw on some neat lookin' 17"s, Z-rated tires and flat-black it. Now, just gotta find me that 71-3 parts car...

douglasskemp

A very difficult query to ponder.

I guess my 'dream' Pinto would be the one I intend to build.  A 'phantom' experimental version of the '77 Cruisin' Wagon.  Mine will sport a period correct small Windsor from a similar year MII, and under hood will be made to look like a factory job.  And, if anybody asks, "they came that way, just like DHolvrsn's factory turbo equipped '81" ;D

Seriously though, I do plan to do a faux V8 optioned '77 CW with 13" Ford 'lacy' spoke wheels, and a relatively rare blue version of the CW paint scheme.  I already have a 331 and a built C4 for it.  I was going to go with the earlier style front, and do some trimming of the core support to fit the early style valance, but I figured that if I did do the V8, I'll need every bit of the radiator I can use to keep it happy in AZ weather.  I will probably tuck the bumpers in a bit, I really liked how that turned out, and a set of Mike's hot pants kits will do nicely, as well as whatever else his brain ferments for us wagon owners!  Of course I will probably get tired of the C4 and seek out a nice AOD for it, but we will see when we get there.

How many is enough, well, I figure they are only as good as you can drive them, because what fun is it to see them sitting there?  I have 4 Pintos at the moment, 2 Mustang IIs, and both '67 and '87 Mustangs.  If I ever wish to bring more than one to any shows, I will need either a decent tow vehicle/ginormous trailer, or another (or team of) driver(s).  So I figure, a V8 Pinto wagon pulling a V8 Mustang II would be an interesting sight!  My avatar Mustang is in pretty good shape, and has nearly every option on it that I would want, AND is currently the nicest original one I've seen under the hood.  It's all original!  Even still has the inked stampings on the rad. support and valve covers.  Eventually I will be letting a couple of the other cars go, first on the list will be the silver '76 MII Ghia (more than likely as parts), then probably either the green '73 Pinto sedan, or the orange '79 Pinto 3-door coupe (I agree that it sounds better than 'hatchback')
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

Carolina Boy

Quote from: dholvrsn on August 15, 2009, 10:15:36 PM
My dream Pinto would be an '81 Cruisin' Wagon with the factory turbo option. And I would have seven of them with each one in a different color for each day of the week.  :afro:

An '81 ???

My dream Pinto would be one found in a barn undercover with only milage from the dealership to the barn and free for cleaning the barn!!!! :rolleye:
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

Srt

One is enough for me;  now if only I had that one!

'71 sedan, dark green metallic, 2.0, 4spd., turbo. dropped to the ground.
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

discolives78

My dream Pinto is a Harvest Gold 73 Squire with brown plaid interior and roof rack. Oh yeah, don't forget the woodgrain wind deflector over the back window. My other dream Pinto is an orange 78 wagon in Tangerine with a v-6 and auto and trailer hitch. My other dream Pinto is a hot-rodded 76 Runabout in Red with a black interior and cool rims. My other dream Pinto is a 78 Bobcat wagon in white with red vinyl deluxe interior and factory stripes. My other dream Pinto is a...

Allright, how many Pinto's is too many?

Too many Pintos is like too much love or too much money, there's no such thing!

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

Bipper

I found my dream Pinto 5 years ago. I had wanted one since I was a teenager in the 70's.
71 Sedan, stock
72 Pangra
73 Runabout, 2L turbo propane

dholvrsn

My dream Pinto would be an '81 Cruisin' Wagon with the factory turbo option. And I would have seven of them with each one in a different color for each day of the week.  :afro:
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smallfryefarm

My dream pinto is the one i am building now. I have dreamed and thought about it since i had my last pinto 29 years ago. I have dreamed of building this car for so long its like a dream to finally get the chance to do it. Got all the kids grown up and on their own and now its on and even with a few set backs here and their i am living my dream and hope to be driving it soon. i will be the guy driving around with the big crap eatin grin on his face.  ;D
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blupinto

Hear Hear!

Pale Roader, you're right- most normal (I know- define normal) folk like the hi-dollar cars like you mentioned. I've loved Pintos since I was a little kid and I'd take a beat-up barely running Pinto over a Cadillac any day. But then I know I'm eccentric that way... ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pinto Pro

A dream Pinto is any one that runs!! ;D

Running out of room is not as bad as getting a threat of a fine by the city because of too many cars on the property.

Kaliphornya sucks.

Pale Roader

DREAM Pinto...?.?? Okay, i love these cars as much as the next weirdo, but dream-Pintos? Thats kinda funny. Most people dream ov GT40's or Hemicudas or maybe a 6x6 68 Cadillac hearse with (6) 44" boggers an 1100cid DOHC tank engine and top-fuel zoomies... (or maybe thats just me).

Funny thing is, i own my 'dream' Pinto (haha), though perhaps it could have less rust. Okay, a LOT less rust, and a nice lil 71 Pinto to donate every bodypart that is not the shell. Basically, i want a 71 Pinto but with the 74-up Mustang II suspension. Aaaaaaannd maybe a 99 Cobra drivetrain installed...

I'd still leave it flat black with all the dents though. Maybe even a couple more dents and scrapes to make it look mean...

Funnier still is that no one here mentioned Pangras. Now if i had to dream about a 'barn-find' Pinto, i'd be wanting a Pangra. I've never even seen one in person.

Then again, there was a time when i thought it'd be REALLY cool to build a 100% junkyard AWD twin-turbo Cadillac 500cid Pinto that was mid-engined and maybe even had some cool "Red-Green' gullwing doors... you know, cause an AWD 500cid twin turbo Pinto would pretty much be right up there with Ferrari's, Lambo's and Porsches at that point. Figured we could build it on a couple thousand dollars too. Still working out the bugs in that design...

71HANTO

The original 1974 HANTO Pinto   :fastcar:

I need just one of them ::)


"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

blupinto

Well, yes and no. It's like buying an actual horse. The buying it is not so hard, but if you've no place to keep it... the space I have is tiny, and parking it in front of someone else's house isn't the solution. For me, neither is storage away from home. So technically yes, as long as there's moola there's a way but in my situation room is the factor.  :-\ Otherwise I'd find ways of finagling my so-called "holy grail" '71 Kim found for me home.  ;D Sometimes I hate suburbia.
One can never have too many Pintos!

gordie

Running out of room is not as important as running out of money!

pintogirl

My dream Pinto would be the one my parents owned when I was a kid. It was a 71-73 sedan. Not posetive which year exactly. It had the hot pants kit with blue exterior paint with a white stripe. It had white interior.

Let's see, I have had 8 Pintos total in less then a year. I currently have 5. I think as someone else above said, when I run out of room I will have enough Pintos! LOL I am real close!! Course I will always take a Pinto for parting out. I know it is not the kind thing to do, but we all need parts so if one is to far gone to restore, that is the way to go!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

dga57

I guess my absolute "dream Pinto" would be another '74 Runabout in orange with black interior, just like my originial one.  I'm going to paint my '72 sedan that color and just learn to live with it.  If I ever get a second Pinto, I think I would like a '74-'76 Squire with every option in the book.  Love that woodgrain paneling and plaid upholstery!!!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blink77

My dream Pinto was a Sedan Delivery Pro Street. After 20 some years
I finally got it done. It is everything I expected, but not very friendly
to drive. It has a 351W with aluminum heads, radical cam, approx 450 HP,
race prepared C4 3500 stall coverter, 4.10 detroit locker. It is backhalved
round tube, tubbed, and a 10 gal fuel cell. Now what I don't like about it.
It is no fun to travel in. If I had it to do over again I would build it
with a fuel injected 5.0 HO AOD trans and a 3.70ish traction-lock rearend. As soon as I finish my latest prodject, that is exactly what I'm going to do. My
current project is a 76 Pinto wagon with a 2.3 8 plug crank trigger fuel
motor (no turbo) with a Mekur 5sp. 3.40 T/L 8in. I probably won't get it
finished till this winter, but at least I got it running for now. I'm thinking,
this will be my dream Pinto, a car I can drive on a regular basis. I have one
car finished, one near completion, and two yet to be built. I also have four
parts cars. I've been parting out these cars for 20 some years and have a barn
full of parts. If only I would have known what parts to save and what to throw
away. You can't have to many pintos, as I'm looking for more all the time.
Bill

blupinto

Well, I love my girls very much, but my dream Pinto would be a '71 half-glass Runabout in light yellow green metallic or Grabber blue, followed by a '72 Squire in GB, medium yellow gold (YUM!) or just yellow. They need 2.0 engines and automatic trannys and NO SMOG CRAP! Pinto Power baby! When is enough enough? When you run out of room!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

hellfirejim

Hard to believe that the the car i am building is what I have dreamed about.  As for another Pinto?  yep going to buy a 77 hatch for the parts. Unfortuantely it is so russted out that it would only be a good for a race car or a shell for a race car.

It's a good day to be alive!
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75bobcatv6

75 bobcat wagon- owned. and yes i would always like more. there is one that is for 14k that i seen in a magazine perfectly restored body/int with a ford racing 302 with 600 hp. its a 77 bobcat wagon. plus the one im getting from fred

dholvrsn

My dream Pinto would be a square headlight Cruisin' Wagon with a turbo and five speed, like I'm in the middle of building right now.

I wouldn't mind having a square headlight sedan or hatchback to give it a friend.
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chrisf1219

so the subject says it all whats your favorite pinto  think first or your current one. and do you want more than one?also no fiat dreams here sorry alberto  pintopower  hay just kidding  ;D  also finally how many would like the smog police to disapair so you can make some mods without woorig will it pass smog :police:i have a wagon but a car would be good i could mix it in with albertos orther 7 or 8 maybe he wouldnt notice. :lol: :lol:chris in ca.
77 wagon auto 2.3  wagons are the best and who knew I like flames on a pinto!!!!