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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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75bobcatv6


pintogirl

It will probably get to 5 or 6 pages before next week!! LOL It's going to be a long one waiting for Sat. 25th to get here!!!! LOL ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6

anytime. never thought this would be a 4 page thread lol.

pintogirl

Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6


pintogirl

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on July 16, 2009, 11:12:56 PM
the CW panels Screw on. Mine are going to be welded filled and Molded in. so lots of work but will be worth it in the end. If you plan to CW it go for it. Its not got the motor in it anyways so why not.

Do you take the original windows out of the car or just leave them in and screw/weld the panels over them?
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6

the CW panels Screw on. Mine are going to be welded filled and Molded in. so lots of work but will be worth it in the end. If you plan to CW it go for it. Its not got the motor in it anyways so why not.

pintogirl

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on July 16, 2009, 10:55:04 PM
PG dont Junk it. if you think it is worth fixing at all. I will help you out. You can reg it using My address from CA. Avoid the fee's =). AZ doesnt do that with cars. thank freakin heaven for that. you dont have to pay Penalties for someone elses screw ups with registration, you pay to reg it thats all.

Thanks for the offer Chad! I may take you up on that if all else fails!

But, don't you all think if I make a cruising wagon out of it, it would lose it's value anyway?? I'm going to buy some cruising wagon panels and weld them on! Well I think anyway, never tried to do anything like that, not sure if one would weld it or maybe there is another way of attatching them?? I'll figure that out once I have the car and the panels! LOL ;D

I will still take you up on the offer, and keep the title clean though, that is if it comes to it!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6

PG dont Junk it. if you think it is worth fixing at all. I will help you out. You can reg it using My address from CA. Avoid the fee's =). AZ doesnt do that with cars. thank freakin heaven for that. you dont have to pay Penalties for someone elses screw ups with registration, you pay to reg it thats all.

pintogirl

Quote from: blupinto on July 16, 2009, 10:41:44 PM
Stop me if I'm trippin', but doesn't the car fall off the "books" after 7 years? I've been told that by a couple car-savvy people but I don't have the inside scoop on Limeade. Or whatever you'll name your new baby. Didn't I tell you I visualized you getting it Kimmy!? I'll bet it has the coveted Squire inner door panels too. You know where to send those if you're not feeling them!  ::) ;) ;D Life is looking good at Pinto Ranch!  :laugh:

Yes Becky, you are almost right! LOL I called DMV and they said that it falls off the books after 5 years! BUT, if someone calls on it and gives DMV the vin and plate numbers, it is then back in their system. Don't ask me how that all works, but that is what the DMV lady told me. She didn't want me to give her any numbers, just in case it did drop out of their systems, it would still be out when I went to reg. it. Then I wouldn't have to pay any back fees.

I will check with DMV once we get the car! If it is in the system, it will be junked!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

blupinto

Stop me if I'm trippin', but doesn't the car fall off the "books" after 7 years? I've been told that by a couple car-savvy people but I don't have the inside scoop on Limeade. Or whatever you'll name your new baby. Didn't I tell you I visualized you getting it Kimmy!? I'll bet it has the coveted Squire inner door panels too. You know where to send those if you're not feeling them!  ::) ;) ;D Life is looking good at Pinto Ranch!  :laugh:
One can never have too many Pintos!

pintogirl

Yah, in CA, the fees go with the car! Isn't that nice!!!  :mad:  I don't think it should work that way, but that is how they make more money. That will also mean my wagon (if it doesn't already have one) will have a salvaged title! I will have to wait and find out more of the details when I go pick it up! I'm getting it no matter what!! LOL  It really won't matter if it has a salvaged title because I am going to customize it eventually anyway!  ;D

Only bad thing is, I would have to most likely have a lien sale done on it, which takes a little over 30 days to complete. That is another 30 days I can't have the car! Bummer! Then once it cleared, the tow yard could junk it, then I would have to do a brake and light inspection, and then I could register it for alot less!!

I wonder what 20 years of back fees would come up to be? LOL Couple grand??? LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

discolives78

It used to be a Squire? I like wagons. It just looks like bullet holes, that's all :lol:

Have fun with your new toy, Kim!

I lived in Granite Bay in 1996. I bought a 73 Datsun, but never registered it in CA because they wanted $400 in back fees for my $200 mustard yellow 610 4door(didn't matter to them if I paid it or the prev owner paid it). Things might have changed since then. I drove it back here and registered it for $36. I couldn't afford to drive if I lived in CA.

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

75bobcatv6

If you are purchasing the car you shouldnt have to pay the back fee's on the Vehicle Ive never had to do that on any car ive ever had. only Title Transfer fee. you are taking possesion of a car that hasnt been on the road since 1982 which means there should be no registration fee's at all. its something you can fight and Usually win with with DMV. they have tried to get me before but Never succeded. The Prior owners were responsible for those fee's not you. or the car.

pintogirl

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on July 16, 2009, 06:07:14 PM
looks good. So you got the pink slip stuff Squared away then ? Im glad for it. Im also glad I was able to help Randy and you out with this.

Well, kinda! LOL I can tell you that it hasn't been registered since 88. So it is still on file, I don't know how but it is. So that means we will have to get a bill of sale from Randy and also have the bill of sale from the shop he got it from to him. Then see what DMV has to say. So it's not going to be to fun on that part, but hubby said to go ahead and buy it and we will deal with it! He also knows it isn't reported stolen ( I doubted it would have been, LOL), but that is all he could find out at this time.

I'm not sure what we will do exactly yet as far as back fees. That is if there will be any at all! Fred said they didn't have non ops in 82, but I"m not sure when they started having them. If it was after 88, we should be ok and not have to pay back fees. If we do have to pay back fees, we will have to have the car turned in for junk, then revived! So that would mean a salvaged title. Not good, but better then paying 20 years of back fees! LOL I just don't see how this thing is still on file?? Maybe someone started a transfer then never finished, don't know. I havn't talked to Randy about that, but from what he has told me, it didn't sound like he did that!

Guess I will find out when we go get the car! LOL
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6

looks good. So you got the pink slip stuff Squared away then ? Im glad for it. Im also glad I was able to help Randy and you out with this.

pintogirl

Hehehe!! I was just looking over the pics again and I noticed that the front bumper has the holes for the tippies!!!! I have a brand new set of tippies already!!!! Yippee!!! LOL  Just need to black rubber that goes on the bumper though! LOL, My tippies have that rubber on them! Then again, maybe I don't! LOL Maybe the tippies had the rubber and the bumper didn't!!!

Ok, I sure wish it was the 25th! LOL Funny thing is, I can't even drive it till we can get a motor and trans in it! LOL But I can putter!!!! Yah, I'm excited!! LOL :lol: ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Ok, here we go!!

The Front!!








This is how I figured out it was lime green!! LOL


This is the only actual "cancer" on the car!!! Although, I'm not sure if it is just that side, or both sides that have cancer.


That's all the pics that Randy's Mom took! I will take more once I get the car!! Will also post some pics of the parts that came with it!!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

pintogirl

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on July 16, 2009, 04:19:17 PM
Link doesnt work. Says Album not found. and CONGRATS!!! I knew you'd get it

Bummer, I will try to email them to myself so I can save them. I had to open a kodak account just so I could keep them in my own area insted of Karens (the person who took the pics)

Thanks!!
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6

Link doesnt work. Says Album not found. and CONGRATS!!! I knew you'd get it

pintogirl

Ok, I told Randy I would buy the car!!!!!  ;D ;D  We will go next Sat the 25th, to pick it up!!!!!

Here are some more pics of it! Well hopefully this link works!!!

http://www.kodakgallery.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?UAUTOLOGIN_ID=888054497210&collid=128920752210.330670497210.1247778604399&page=1&sort_order=0&navfolderid=0&folderid=0&ownerid=0

It's going to be a long 8 days!!! :hangover: ;D

Thanks for all the good juju!!! Keep it comeing all the way till we can get it in my name!!!!  ;D
Kim
www.pintobuyersanonymous.com

I have come to realize that I am powerless to cuteness of a rusty old Pinto.

Sacramento CA

75bobcatv6

Stock color code. Not sure but i think its Glacier white. or polar white. That wont stay. Im using the OE 2003 Mustang LAser red. with Platinum Silver Stripes up the hood and Down the Hatch Skipping the Top of the car. Kind of a mix between the Classic Chevy stripe and the Shelby Stripe. too much top for stripes lol.

blupinto

That's one well-loved Bobcat! Is that pearlescent white paint I see on her?  ;D Very pretty!
One can never have too many Pintos!

75bobcatv6

Quote from: blupinto on July 16, 2009, 01:47:46 AM
I did get fooled... she's a nice wagon. Did they ever do a Bobcat cruising wagon?
No the did not Make a Cruising version, My dad when he owned the car, bought them at a p&p for 50 bucks windows and all. didnt have the trim parts but the rest was there. he brought them home and Promptly installed them .. lol Been that way ever since. I love the car. its been in my family now since I was 6 years old. im the 4th owner. Very first owner was Hertz rent-a-car in Los angelos CA. Second was the impound yard it was at. then my dad then me lol =)

blupinto

Pinto Pro, I knew you were but you had my curiousity piqued!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

blupinto

I did get fooled... she's a nice wagon. Did they ever do a Bobcat cruising wagon?
One can never have too many Pintos!

Pinto Pro

Oh, I was talking to Pintogirl!!

I just scrapped a 75 Squire wagon, and unfortunately, I have too many projects.
This Pinto has to go.

blupinto

Nice wheels 75Bob! Lol. yeah, I'll be patient. You'll have to be more patient, I'm afraid. Arnold S. is talking about cutting my wages another 5%- a grand total of almost 20% of my pay so things are really tight. In other words, no worries, no hurry.  :P
One can never have too many Pintos!

75bobcatv6

PP its a nice ride. but Im a bobcat Kinda guy. I have one 75 wagon and am workin on getting a 76 wagon dont let my Photo fool ya its a 1975 Merc Bobcat with the Pinto Cruizer panels.

75bobcatv6

the two I have have the kicking horse. 150 plus ship, bujt I gotta get Spares first lol once I get the rims I want the Centerlines are also going up for sale