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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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fordstuff


yes mustang 2 (Mustang II) stuff .. if you use a fox body rear end you will have to cut of the brackets and weld leaf spring perches on the rear end.. plus im not sure on driveshaft yokes. my fox body has a flat flange on the pinion.. id go for a mustang II 8" out of a v8 Mustang II.... good luck with your awap.. roy

Quote from: pinto project on July 10, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
  i just got a 79 pinto yanked the 4 cy 4 speed and started with a v8 swap the motor mounts need to be a mii is that a mustang 2 ? or what and will the rearend from a fox body work from the 4 link to the spring style thanks email billroberds@aol.com  :accident:

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Quote from: fordstuff on June 25, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
prob not fairmont.. they came out in 78 and i think all were 4 lug like 79 up Fox mustangs  ..roy

i just got a 79 pinto yanked the 4 cy 4 speed and started with a v8 swap the motor mounts need to be a mii is that a mustang 2 ? or what and will the rearend from a fox body work from the 4 link to the spring style thanks email billroberds@aol.com  :accident:
i have a 78 pinto radiator and bucket seats and a driveshaft for sale if you need one.

Srt

Quote from: fordstuff on June 25, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
prob not fairmont.. they came out in 78 and i think all were 4 lug like 79 up Fox mustangs  ..roy


i had both  '78 & '80 Fairmont wagons that were purchased new.  They both had the real small v8 (255) and neither had a 9" axle under the rear.

the '80 had the motor replaced with a 5.0 mustang GT motor after the 255 lost a rod on a run from mammoth (california) to the Los Angeles area.  (previously had made the run in just under 3 hrs)

car ran like a r@ped ape after that!
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

fordstuff

prob not fairmont.. they came out in 78 and i think all were 4 lug like 79 up Fox mustangs  ..roy

Quote from: orangekrush on June 05, 2009, 09:37:11 PM
ive got a 77 fairmont/granada 9 inch in the rear of mine. it bolted right between the springs. came out of a V-8 car

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Carolina Boy,

If you are looking for the axles and drums, here is a set on ebay if they don't go too high in price, you might get a deal.  I think a new set was in the $375.00 range, so if you get them for less than $250 with shipping, you made out good.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-Lug-Rear-Axles-for-8-Inch-Pinto-and-Mustang-II_W0QQitemZ180366426345QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item29fead40e9&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171%7C240%3A1318


hellfirejim

I am trying to remember what it was but one of the set of axles was shorter and the problem was in the spline area.  Measure carefully.  I am old and trying to remember what it was. if i do i will post it up.
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Carolina Boy

I never thought about the fairmont having a 9". Good find Orange.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

orangekrush

ive got a 77 fairmont/granada 9 inch in the rear of mine. it bolted right between the springs. came out of a V-8 car
lifes too short to drive a boring ride!

Cheeseliner

The old Bronco rear end was short. about 50 inches. they are a popular swap and have the 5 on 5.5 pattern.  :read:
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Srt

Quote from: fordstuff on May 29, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
may be narrower there but i don't think that is a real important measurement. its face to face on the front of the drums where the wheels bolt on that is most important width after spring perches..  what measurement is that on each?... thanks. roy


that 'face-to-face' on the drums is important.  if it isn't near or just what you want or need then it's back to the drawing board or a whole lot of 'adapting'
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

fordstuff

may be narrower there but i don't think that is a real important measurement. its face to face on the front of the drums where the wheels bolt on that is most important width after spring perches..  what measurement is that on each?... thanks. roy


Quote from: fastlane on May 28, 2009, 10:24:14 PM
I bought a 8" rear axle from a maverick a few weeks ago. This weekend I will pull the axles out of both 8" pinto and 8" maverick and measure them. I did a rough measurement of the housing, the spring perches were the same width but the backing to backing plate width was about an inch and a half narrower on the mav rear. I will let everyone know the results this weekend.

fastlane

I bought a 8" rear axle from a maverick a few weeks ago. This weekend I will pull the axles out of both 8" pinto and 8" maverick and measure them. I did a rough measurement of the housing, the spring perches were the same width but the backing to backing plate width was about an inch and a half narrower on the mav rear. I will let everyone know the results this weekend.
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Carolina Boy

If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

71pintoracer

CB, I looked, couldn't find them, sorry!  :(  My old faded memory now recalls that I traded the axles for a Maverick rear end with the 4 lug axles. I found the empty 8" housing and it all started coming back to me..... ::) ::)
I don't know about them being shorter, the Mustang rear was a bolt-in and the Maverick axles were the same.
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Carolina Boy

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phils toys

mavericks were 5 lug as well but my understanding is the axel is shorter
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FCANON

Please remember the Mustang II V8 had 4 lug as well.

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Carolina Boy

You're temping me, 71. I am in the process of selling a few things, so I will have a little extra budget. Would you sell them to this old man? How would you ship something like that?
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71pintoracer

Yep, same axle. I think the Pinto and 6 cyl mustangs/mavericks were 4 lug, V8's were 5 lug.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Carolina Boy

So, if I used those axles, they wouldn't have to be shortened, they would slide right in?
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

71pintoracer

CB, my 8" came from a '68 mustang, it had 5lug axles, I might still have them if you need a set. Let me know, I'll look through mt junkyard, no wait, scratch that, "salvage yard"  ;D
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Carolina Boy

Is there a set of 5 lug Ford axles (not custom made) that would interchange with the 4 lug of a Pinto 8"? I think this has been asked before.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.