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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

the trip that wasn't

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dholvrsn

I'm going to attempt this trip again as soon as I eat breakfast. Wish me luck! ;)
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dholvrsn

I was thinking through last night that 71pintoracer's idea made more sense because it was something that globally effected all four injectors and the O2 sensor.

I was also starting to toy with the idea of making some sort of mini-manifold that would hold a Holley 5200 or 350, or even a Weber or Solex or Mikuni, and connect up with the turbo inlet, and then how to bypass the EFI stuff afterwards.

Anyway, it turns out that the VAM was gunky and the barn door vanes were hung up all the way open. Now, there's a problem that's not documented in the manual! I killed off a can of carburetor cleaner and used a can of brake cleaner afterwards to get the VAM about 80% as clean as I really wanted to. Those vanes swing much clearly and the Pinto runs like it supposed to now! I even pulled a perfect 11,11 & 11,11 code.

Also see my post asking about VAM cleaning.


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'79 porthole wagon, '06-on
'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'98 Dodge Ram 1500
'95 Buick Riviera
'63 Studebaker Champ
'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser

dholvrsn

Will measure voltages or even swap VAMs tomorrow morning.

So can a wacky VAM *really* make it run this ungodly rich?
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'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser

71pintoracer

Code 26 is set when the VAM input to the PCM is out of range at idle. The signal circuit is ok because it did not set 56 (signal high) or 66 (signal low). There are 3 basic things that can generate this code. VAM, PCM, or air or vacuum leaks.
Make sure there are no air leaks between VAM and the throttle body.
Check very carefully for any vacuum leaks.
Make sure the PCV, canister purge (if you have one) and even the valve cover oil cap and dipstick tube are sealed.
There are 4 wires to the VAM, the bottom terminal in the connector is blank. lets call that one #1.
#2 is signal return to the PCM.
#3 is voltage reference (5V).
#4 is VAM signal to PCM.
#5 is VAM air temp.
With the engine off, key on, #4 should be 0.15-0.50V. At idle it's 1.5-1.7V.
If you get this code with the key on, engine off, most likely the VAM is at fault. Make sure there is nothing interfering with the vane movement.
Take a pencil and stick it through the VAM to hold the vane open. Read voltage between 2 & 4 and 2 & 5. Should be 2.8-3.7V. If so the VAM is ok and most likely you have an air or vacuum leak.
Good luck, hope this helps!  :)
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

75bobcatv6

the only thing i can tell you is to buy the cleaner in the can meant to clean that type of application and then soak it a little bit, then put some pressure through it once its soaked to push out what ever might be in it. This is what i did on my mother in laws 87 Somerset. two injectors were not firing or were not pulsing like they are supposed to so i took them all out, cleaned them up and got new o-ring kits for them.

dholvrsn

Another update. I had a mechanic friend come out tonight and look at the car. The all the plugs and oxygen sensor were all black and wet with soot. He believes that at least one of the fuel injectors is stuck wide open. The manifold and rail is coming apart tomorrow. Any advice on cleaning out gummy old injectors?
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'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
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dholvrsn

Replacing the regulator didn't fix it. Still runs rough and blows black smoke. Even even gives the same 26,26,11,11 error. What now? I'm thinking to look at either a leaky injector or the oxygen sensor next. Unless somebody here with real Ford turbo EFI experience can come up with a better insight.
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'79 porthole wagon, '06-on
'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'95 Buick Riviera
'63 Studebaker Champ
'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser

dholvrsn

I'm back up at the Farm working on the Pinto again. The regulator hose smells like gas. Will get another regulator tomorrow when the stores are open.

Also got 26 & 26 codes followed by 11 & 11 codes, which I think mean the VAM is out of whack but everything else is OK. I bounced this off a real mechanic and he thinks that it's a side effect of the engine running way too rich for the VAM to compensate.

To Wittsend, do you have a good ground from the coil to the body and from the engine to the body? Also is your temp sensor in the intake OK?
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71pintoracer

There are, in fact that is how you had to diag OBD1. We have a 60 pin break out box that hooks between the PCM and the harness and you make measurements from pin to pin at the BOB. The problem is that pin 1 (and 2 and 3 and so on) at the BOB is not pin 1 (2,3...) at the PCM. So without the BOB you have to figure out what circuit they are wanting you to test and find that pin at the PCM. Confused yet?  :D In other words the pin point test will say "hook up BOB & test resistance value (or voltage signal or whatever) for sensor (XXX) at pin 14 and 37. Reading should be between ___ and ___." That way you test the entire circuit and the sensor. Depending on what answer you get, that directs you to the next PPT. In order to test directly from the PCM you have to match circuits which can be done, it just involves more work! If you let me know what you want to test, I can go up in the attic at work at try to find the old PCED's for the year engine you have and try to help out.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

dholvrsn

I was just wondering if there are any VOM or DMM tests that I could do on the Oxygen Sensor or Manifold Temperature Sensor that would determine if they're any good?
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'79 porthole wagon, '06-on
'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'95 Buick Riviera
'63 Studebaker Champ
'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser

71pintoracer

The problems you guys are having is what still makes me a little gun shy of doing a turbo swap in my car. That stinking OBD1 can be a bear!  :P OBDII has spoiled me! Hook up the laptop and pull up the PIDs you want to see and watch them in real time.  :amazed:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Mike Modified

Quote from: dholvrsn on May 07, 2009, 02:02:40 PM
NATO? ???

North Atlantic Treaty Organization? ???

Close!

North American Turbocoupe Organization: http://www.turbotbird.com/

Lots of good turbo tech.

Mike

dholvrsn

NATO? ???

North Atlantic Treaty Organization? ???
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'79 porthole wagon, '06-on
'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'95 Buick Riviera
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'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser

Wittsend

Well Doug, welcome to the club.  I got my Turbo Pinto running back in December.  Here it is May and I'm still struggling to get it to run right.

My problem is always the same. Starts, idles and runs, but there is a intermittent miss at idle.  There is a double surge while accelerating.  It will accelerate, fall flat, surge again, fall flat and by then it is time to shift. At times if the car is already at speed (about 35 MPH) and I gradually apply the throttle it will accelerate as it should. This leads me to believe the problem isn't he fuel system.  It is not that it won't reach high RPM's it is getting it there that is the problem.

That said, there is a new fuel filter, the plugs are new, the wire ohmed out, the distributor cap checked and cleaned of carbon, the distributor was swapped and that replaced the TFI and the PIP. The O2 sensor was swapped as well as the TPS (and adjusted). I opened the VAM and checked it. While the traces looked good I repositioned the wiper downward (not right or left) to have it wipe on a clean resistive pad.

While all these parts are used, the EXACT problem remains.  I've tried about 4 different TFI's and even relocated it off the distributor.

I get both 41 (lean) and 42 (rich) codes as the only pertinent ones.  I'll say this, if I immediately start the (cold) car and drive it it seems pretty good.  But even 45 seconds into driving it the miss and surge starts. Frustrating isn't it.  Anyway, I just want you to know you are not the only one.

I guess I've "snuck under the radar" at NATO. They are not too keen on helping with swaps, but they have offered a lot of advice.  Unfortunately nothing has helped.

All the best, I hope you get it sorted out.
Tom

dholvrsn

Tried to drive Wee Beastie from the farm down to Omaha. Made it as far as Pisgah before the thing started acting up and I turned around and headed back. It runs rough, loads down, surges, and blows a lot of black smoke mostly at idle. GRRR!  >:( My best guesses are a plugged fuel filter (but wouldn't it be starved instead of running rich?), a loose vacuum hose, a dirty or bad injector, or a bad oxygen sensor (which would be annoying since it has a new one and they aren't cheap), or something that I have to pull a code for. Any ideas? It has an '85 Merkur 2.3 turbo in it.

DGH
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'79 porthole wagon, '06-on
'80 trunk model. '17-on
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'95 Buick Riviera
'63 Studebaker Champ
'57 Studebaker Silver Hawk
'51 Studebaker Commander Starlight
'47 Studebaker Champion
'41 Studebaker Commander Land Cruiser