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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pintos in movies

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Nabobs76

There's several good shots of Pintos in Cheech and Chongs Next Movie. If I remember correctly, theres a blue 77 or 78 peeling out from cheech's house when the girl he's trying to get with gets mad at him because didn't answer the door when she showed up for a date with him.. just so happens he passed out..
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SMF

Ah yes Pintos on the big screen I saw a BEAUTIFUL light golden/creamy collord 1980 pinto in Final Destination 2....but unfortunately it was completely destroyed in an explosion (what a suprise lol) when Nora Carpenter in the film (Canadian actress Lynda Boyd) lost controll of her Runabout while attempting to dodge HUGE logs falling at a VERY fast velocity when a LARGE truck lost all its load a few vehicles ahead of her pinto. The fast falling dangerous automobile killers of of coarse didn't spare Nora or her son Tim in their old hatchback sliding n skiding all over a VERY VERY slick & wet highway (to make situation even worse) Finally missing all the log truck had to offer( meaning the falling logs/moving logs) Nora tried to stop her Pinto which was speeding at least 65mph probably about 80mph? down the death highway but couldn't do to an obstruck break peddle (Tim's watterbottle managed to roll over onto his mother's side of the car during all the skiding and sliding seconds before) and prevented the break peddle from taking any kind of effect to save him and his mom's life  hence their fiery death when they had a HORRIBLE frontal collision with one of the bigger logs that fell from the truck that was sitting motionless in the far right lane which was there ticket to safety & remote survival then Nora realized what was going on with the peddle and just screamed as they hit the log going at my guess probably 75 mph which then exploded into flames upon impact.

78pinto

see a green pinto on A&E's  cold case files last night.....guy was shot in his Pinto at the side of the road.
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warhead2

got another on for the list was watching Police Academy and in the first of the movie where Mohony is the parking attendant u see a green pinto wagion parked to the right of the screen

crazyhorse

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turbopinto72

 I dont know but if a Pinto could do what Cheryl Ladd could do I would have many more for sure......... ;D
Brad F
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1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
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crazyhorse

What's it say that the Pinto outlasted the stars?!?!?
How to tell when a redneck's time is up: He combines these two sentences... Hey man, hold my beer. Hey y'all watch this!
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'95 Olds Gutless "POS"
'97 Subaru Legacy wagon "Kat"

losin sux

Sabrina is the Angel who drove the Pinto and it was ORANGE.  It remained on the show being handed down to the next Angel.
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71pintok

The original Charlie's Angels drove a red Pinto.
There is always a Pinto or 2 in the old Columbo movies.
there was a movie staring Leslie Neilson when at the end of the movie some thing just touches the rear bumper and the car explodes.
and the tv show Emergency when the fire truck pulls out of the station a Pinto slows down to let it by

warhead2

well here is one thats not one here it the movie Poltergeist right at the start there is a pinto hatchback don't rember what color it was ;D

bricker4864

Here's some others have seen:
-"The Betsy" and it had a Red Pinto Hatchback it was being used as a testbed for a engine.
-"Cujo" with it's yellow 77' runabout.
-"Final Destination 2" has a real nice cream colored 79 or 80 , that they smashed to bits unfortunatly.
-"Silence Of The Lambs" has Charice driving a beat up grey 74 or 75 Pinto.
-"Friday" with Ice Cube shows a black Pinto "convertible"!
-"Red Dawn" breifly shows a yellow wagon from the rear ( also gets smashed).
-"Top Secret" shows an early pinto getting gently "tapped" from behind before exploding.
-the first Blues Blues Brothers movie.Henry Gibson was driven around in a real beauty and it came to a sad end in the movie
-"The Spirit of 76". this was an indie film done in the early 90s that starred David Cassidy and was basically a spoof of the 70s. Anyway, a poor little early blue sedan gets blown up.
-straight talk was on and the first six minutes of it is dolly pardon driving a 79 or 80 odd shade of orange trunk model pinto.
-'JoJo Dancer, You're Life is Calling' - A brown Pinto wagon (~74-79) is following the subject vehicle along the winding road.
-the original Terminator. At the end of the movie as Linda Hamilton is pulling in to the gas station in Mexico, there is a 75 or so Pinto sitting beside the gas station.

crazyhorse

The red "wagon" that Max drives is actually a Holden. The model escapes me at the moment, but it's a GM, unlike ALL the police cars which are Ford of Australia Falcons (including the "Interceptor")

As for pinto's in songs there's a line in Everclear's song "AM Radio" that goes, I remember back in '72 we were hangin in the neighborhod with nuthin to do, sometimes we'd go drivin around in my sister's Pinto ridin with the windows rolled down, We'd listen to the radio station cuz we were too d#*n poor to buy the 8-track tape
How to tell when a redneck's time is up: He combines these two sentences... Hey man, hold my beer. Hey y'all watch this!
'74 Runabout, stock 2300,auto  RIP Darlin.
'95 Olds Gutless "POS"
'97 Subaru Legacy wagon "Kat"

sky

mad max, with mel gibson..the original...has pinto wagon or youth van, but it is one that has been customized..very cool :o
78 pinto pony..all original even tires!!!!! 17,000 MILES BOUGHT NEW!!!!

skrach

also a song bout a golden pinto..  called "cletus goes to florida" by cletus t judd.   pretty funny...     ill try to find a link...
1971 Ford Pinto Sedan. Original CA Car. Root Beer Brown. but wont be that color for long. Tired of the poop brown reputation. haha

Poison Pinto

If I remember right, Pinto was referred to in a bit by Jeff Foxworthy or Bill Engval. They're talking about how someone has just won the huge lottery jackpot and the pot has gone back down to $14 million.

A guy walks in and say's, "Oh, it's back down to $14 million, I guess I won't buy any tickets this week."

And the commedian goes, "Yeah, like $14 million isn't going to make a dent in you Pinto payment."

That is, if I remember right...it's been a couple years.
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

turbopinto72

Thats a great song.......... ;D
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

straw boss

Not a movie or TV show, but a Pinto is mentioned in a song called  "Pretty Fly For A White Guy", by The Offspring.
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bricker4864

Taxi Driver- one drives through the light when Robert DeNiro is out with the blond in the coffee shop
Crocodile Dundee- There's a red hatchback parked on the street somewhere when Paul Hogan's running to the subway.
Those are the two that come to mind that haven't already been mentioned.

losin sux

There is one in Miracles just after the coach goes to the camp, he walks out of the building and it drives off behind them.   There is also the one in Starsky and Hutch after they get teamed up they walk out of the building and there is one driving on the street.  Those are recent movies that I have seen one in.
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dick1172762

The story on A&E or the History channel about the "Hillside Strangler" in LA clearly shows a Pinto in the background when the bad guy is arested at his auto shop.
Its better to be a has-been, than a never was.

pimpin_pinto

in seinfeld, they were in the mall parking lot looking for their car and i saw several pinto's in the background.  i was watching that back to the future yesterday, but i didnt notice the pinto.

turbopinto72

I wish I had Nash Bridges Hemi Cuda ( even though it was not a real Hemi Cuda).
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Tercin

There was an episode of Nash Bridges a few years ago where they were doing some Private investigating and the client was a major sports star. His przed but somewhat rough Pinto was stolen. This big star wanted the car back because he said he had it when he had no money. I can't remember the year of Pinto but it was definitely aa major part of the show. ???
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turbopinto72

The Rockford Files allways had one or two per episode.
Brad F
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1973, Pangra
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skrach

there is a drug awareness commercial.  here in california where a kid gets home late.. and he gets dropped off by a pinto wagon...    there is also final destination 2   in the collision gets plowed by a log    also there is one in the new dukes of hazard movie also in silence of the lambs.. clarice drives one..  there is a crap load in chips.. and thats all i can think of at the top of my head..
1971 Ford Pinto Sedan. Original CA Car. Root Beer Brown. but wont be that color for long. Tired of the poop brown reputation. haha

crazyhorse

Escape from New York & Escape from L.A. are Full of 2 or 3 pinto shells. also in at least i scene in Terminator 3 there is a pinto shell. It seems that Pinto's are easy to use a set dressing. In most 70's-early 80's there are Pintos in most city scenes.
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turbopinto72

I know we have all ( probably) seen Pintos in movies, comercials, and TV shows. I have started looking in the background of shows and movies I have seen before just to locate a Pinto. Yesterday, while watching Back to the Future, I saw a Yellow late model Pinto In the scene just after Michael J Fox and his Girlfriend are sittling on a park bench, with the clock tower in the back ground, talking about "going up to the lake". There are Famous scenes like the Blues Brothers Red wagon flying off a bridge and who can forget " Kujo" the man eating St. Bernard, trying to eat the people in the Yellow Pinto. The scene in the movie "Almost Famous" where Michael and Penny lane are driving to the riot house is shot looking through the windshield of a 72 Pinto.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto