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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Wittsend

Definitely.  I used an automatic trans crossmember (1973) to install my T-5.  Reversed front to back and then slotted the holes all the way to the rear.  I even used the C-4 mount (rubber and bracket to the trans) as well. It is a round rubber piece that sits at an angle.
Tom

turbo74pinto

it looks like you modified the "straight" side of the crossmember dholvrsn.  take a look at my pic above.  i modified for the "humped" side of the crossmember.  i think mine may be in backwards like carolina boy said.  it works great and little mods had to be done.  keep in mind i also used a stick crossmember.  i think the autos are the same.

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

dholvrsn

Are there different rear mounts for different types of original Pinto transmissions? I really had to a torch mechanic job on a C3 mount in a '79 wagon to get it to bolt up to a T-5.
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Quote from: Pinturbo75 on April 05, 2009, 11:08:51 AM
Just your regular old pinto with great mileage until you roll into the throttle.....What! Wait!! Where'd he go????
Here I is, up here in front of you. I rolled into my throttle too. :showback:

Pinturbo75

one good thing is the 86 already has the big injectors and a t3 turbo. the tranny is the t5 and the wiring harness is usable for the swap fairly hassle free. i used a 85.5 for the swap on my dads pinto. we did do a intercooler with it also. the car runs very wwell for just a stock turbo swap. he's already pissed off 2 honda kids from down the street with it. not to mention his buddy with a 351 fairmont. you will thoroughly enjoy the car when you get it done. just your regular old pinto with great mileage until you roll into the throttle.....What! Wait!! Where'd he go????
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

joeykillsyou

great!!! finally got great info. thanks you guys for the help. well now i can actually buy all this and have very little worries. i was only worried about the crossmember. everything should pretty easy and just have to worry about the driveshaft but that isnt that big of a thing to do. and yeah im only 5 8"and i got monkey arms but il prettend to have the stick 1 inch futher and see if i like that. thoes shifters are massive.wow. well i have made the pinto gods happy and am doing this swap. it was either this or leaving my pinto stock and buying a mitsubishi starion.

Mike Modified

Lot's of shifter levers available, such as:

http://lokar.com/product-descriptions/manual-trans-shifter-levers.htm


Available: 10", 12", 16", double-bend 16"

Mike


Wittsend

 First let me say everyone gave excellent and accurate advice. Bob(turbo74Pinto) has always been a good source of information for me.

To add a few things.  While likely not impossible, the hydraulic setup (at least as it is in the Turbo Coupe) is NOT the way to go.  Get yourself a cable bellhousing if needed.  Most likely it will be the bell crank variety.  On my '73 there were crossmember to cable issues.  I used a piece of steel to offset the cable. The picture should be self explanatory.

Get ready to slot the crossmember as stated.  I also elected to slot the crossmember to body holes as well. I did this "just in case."

  I don't know your build.  I'm 6 foot and and found the stock shifter a L-O-N-G reach.  I added a plate to extend it rearward.  You will have to see how you fit when done.
All the best.
Tom

Pinturbo75

86 is still a cable clutch on the birds. changed in 87
75 turbo pinto trunk, megasquirt2, 133lb injectors, bv head, precision 6265 turbo, 3" exhaust,bobs log, 8.8, t5,, subframe connectors, 65 mm tb, frontmount ic, traction bars, 255 lph walbro,
73 turbo pinto panel wagon, ms1, 85 lb inj, fmic, holset hy35, 3" exhaust, msd, bov,

turbo74pinto

86 tbird turbo coupe is a t5.  i dont know if 86 is or isnt hydrolic clutch.  if it is, youll either need to change your pinto to hydrolic clutch (the hard way) or find yourself a mustang 4 banger 5 speed bellhousing (the easy way).

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

joeykillsyou

wait. mkay now i just confused myself. what transmisson is on the 86 thunderbird? i keep thinking its a t5 for somereason?

joeykillsyou

great thank you for the info you guys:] well i think im going for it then. with the 86 thunderbird and 8 inch rear from a stang 2 im looking at 600 bucks all together from a friend. and yeah with the floor, i guess the sawzaw would do the trick or even a hacksaw.

turbo74pinto

crossmember is a pinto and MOUNT is mustang.  youll also have to cut your floor because the shifter sits about 2 inches closer to the front with a t-5

bob

Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

joeykillsyou

hmmm well it doesnt seem that hard. so really thats it? just reverse the crossmember, notch clearance for the clutch,  and widen the mounting holes? did you say on the pic that the crossmember on that pic is a 87 mustang crossmember or you used transmisson mounts out of an 87? i dunno i am tierd haha

turbo74pinto

here are a couple pics. in the pic of the crossmember, the bottom of the pic is towards the back of the car.  the other pic is showing the clutch cable.  you can see its touching the crossmember.  it isnt binding but a "U" or "V" notch should be put there for clearance.

bob


Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

turbo74pinto

use your pinto crossmember.  install it with the "hump" facing the back of the car.  im pretty sure thats backwards like carolina boy said but to be honest, i dont remember for sure anymore.  the 2 mounting holes will have to be elongated to the rear of the car.  dont remember how far.  pretty much as far as you can go with room for washers and bolts.  i used fat fender washers and ground down one side to fit, so the washers look like "D".  they also had to be ground just a tad to the outside of the car.  i used a regular 87 ford mustang stick shift tranny mount.
ill snap some shots today so you can see.  i have a write up of my car in "your pintos".  77turbopinto has a good write up too, much more in detail as does wittsend.  there are many others but those are the ones i know off the top of my head.

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

Carolina Boy

If I am not mistaken, turn the cross member backwards and the T5 should bolt in. Also go to the and type turbo/ T5.
If life gives you a lemon, squeeze it in your moonshine and buy a Pinto.

joeykillsyou

im kinda new to this whole deal and not sure if i wanna turbo out my 77 pinto. my friend has a 86 thunderbird and has a 8 in from a mustang2 and will sell it to me for dirt cheap.. i know that the 2.3t will fit but i would like a t5 installed on it. ive been looking and looking through this whole site and still couldnt find the right answer about the crossmember. i heard that you can weld two crossmember i think together and such. can i use the crossmember off the tc donor car? i dont know and again im new at this whole thing.. it would be nice to get some info before i buy all this as a summer project and just fail and lose moneys. sorry for posting but i would like some info to know what im getting into. if its worth it or just get myself a turbo car that i actually like as in body and power.