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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Restoring my 1971 Ford Pinto Trunk Model

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larjohnson

blupinto:
Yes...I'm really pleased with the old Pinto, it's beginning to look brand new.  I do plan on going to Carlisle in 2011.  If I do, I'd like to hook up with all my Pinto friends I've met thru Fordpinto.com.  Hope to see you there. Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

blupinto

Larry, that lil' red car is practically brand new again! Not everyone can have a new old car! Or a 38 year young Pinto... Will you take her to Carlisle in 2011? I too would love to see her...Congratulations!  ;D
One can never have too many Pintos!

larjohnson

smallfryefarm:  It's nice to know someone can empathize with me.  lol  Who would have thought 40 years ago, a car that sold for $1,999.00 would cost so much to restore later.  Oh well, I love the Pinto, it'll be a great momento of my youth.  Thanks for the feedback....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

smallfryefarm

Cant wait to see it larry. Believe me i know waht you mean every time i turn around i loose 200 dollars. Bought 2 new front tires yesterday 2 electric fans this morning. Two front shocks on the way home. Someone stop me i need help, ;D
Any way cant wait to see her larry. Glad to hear you are getting along so fast.
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larjohnson

Well...WHEW!!!!! I picked up the 1971 Pinto from the upholstery shop yesterday, after getting the new headliner installed.  It looks fantastic, they did a really nice job....but...the expense was astronomical.  You all had told me the glass would have to come out of the car, which I knew.  Most of you, including 71pintoracer said it'd probably take a new windshield seal, once the windshield was replaced, and it did.  Well here goes.....
Installation of headliner $200.00
New windshield seal       $169.00
Install all glass         $250.00
How it looks              Priceless
I really hated it cost so much for the headliner, but the windshield, back glass, and rear passenger side glasses all had to come out, then be reinstalled.  Probably not one of Ford's better ideas, but hey!!! If I wanted the headliner replaced, I guess I had to pay the piper.  Anyway, it looks great, now all that's left is installing the carpet, interior trim, and seats.  Hopefully, in the next few weeks I'll get "r" done!!!! Pictures will be coming after interior is completed.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Larry,

Glad to hear it's still progressing nicely.  I'll bet she's a real looker!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Called the trim shop today, they've had the 1971 Pinto two weeks to install the headliner, I was courious about their progress.  Art told me the headliner was in, and it looked fantastic.  The glass shop, who had to remove the glass, is waiting for a new windshield seal so they can reinstall it.  Apparently, which I didn't know, they had to also remove the side glass from the rear passenger compartment to properly install the headliner.  Who would have thought?  I wonder why Ford would design a car, where all the glass had to be removed if the headliner ever needed replaced.  Oh well...at the time I guess they thought the Pinto would be a throw away car, never anticipating they'd be loved 40 years later by folks like us.  Anyway, should get the car back next week....then I can install the new carpet and seats. Then the car is DONE!!!!! This car is looking amazing :amazed:.   Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

larjohnson

71pintoracer:  Hey thanks for the information, I'll call them and let them know.  I'm dumb when it comes to the windshield things, didn't know what to tell them, just knew I really didn't have much of a choice, since I wanted the headliner replaced, and the leak fixed around the windshield.  Will keep you all posted on the progress.  Thanks again...Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

71pintoracer

Larry, you should order a new rubber for the W/S and let them cut the old one to get the W/S out. Less chance of breakage and if it's leaking you prob need a new one anyway.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

larjohnson

Well, got the 1971 Pinto to the upholstery shop on Friday.  They looked her over, and now know the windshield has to come out to install the new headliner.  Unfortunately, most glass companies won't guarantee the removal and replacement of the original windshield, due to the fact it could break when they remove or install.  So let's all pray they can get her out and back in without any problems.  I guess I really don't have a choice, it's either remove it, or leave the torn headliner in.  Well since the windshield leaks also, I guess it's do or die.  So let's do it!!!!!! Can't wait to get her home and install the new interior.  The car should be in order for the all Ford Car Show I want to take her to in September.   Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

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larjohnson

Okay...wasn't able to get the 1971 Pinto to the upholstery shop this past week for the new headliner :'(, so I'm taking her there this Friday.  Once the headliner is in, the new interior may be installed, and the car will be basically finished :).  The only thing I'm going to look at is possibly a new exhaust, the current one I have on rattles a bit, I'd like a little more quiet ride.  The shop I use for my work said they can install a new system for not a lot of jack :surprised:.... we'll see.   After the new interior is in, new pix will be posted.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

larjohnson

blupinto:
No...I didn't do the vinyl top, I'm just not that handy.  I can do minor cosmetic things, but a vinyl top I'm just not talented enough for that.  I found a local car upholstery shop when I did mine in the 70's, they did a great job, and it didn't take them long to do it.  The same shop is still in business here locally.  If you get on the net, I'm sure there's suppliers there that can give you the same vinyl material as used in the 70's.  I found a place in Michigan that carried interior vinyl of the 70's, that's how I got the material to re-do the seats in my 71.  Just check with your local upholstery shop, they can probably get you the 70's vinyl, and install it for probably not a whole lot of change.  I must admit, you've got me thinking, next spring...who knows....maybe I'll go ahead and have the top re-installed.  Thanks for your comments...have a great day.  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

blupinto

It's ok... I was afraid you'd think I was this obsessive person who kept on you about the vinyl-top. I wouldn't think they'd sell that type (you know- kinda roughish) VT material anymore. Now VTs are buttery soft with much padding underneath.

Anyway, she's your baby now, so you do what you feel. You'll be the one seeing her and driving her so whatever your heart tells you this is what you should follow.  ;D

Did you put the VT on your earlier (HS era) Pinto? If you did, how did you do it? I think I will eventually get Wildfire a VT in black (better matching) or chocolate like my Grandmother's '74 LTD.  :)
One can never have too many Pintos!

larjohnson

blupinto:
Sorry...I didn't think you sounded mean about it...it was a good question, I hope you didn't take my thread wrong.  I too liked the vinyl top in the 70's, you're right it was so 70's, that's why I had one added to my 71 trunk model during my High School years.  And I can tell you, if it had been salvageable, I'd have given the top to you, but I really don't think it's too expensive to have one added to your car.  Mine was only like $75.00 in the 70's, it may only be a couple of hundred at your local upholstery shop.  I only asked for the poll, because if enough really like the idea of having it reinstalled, I'll probably do it.  I'm a Pinto lover, and there's other Pinto lovers on this site, their opinion means a lot, and I will listen.  Yes....Reed gave me a great car, and I love it.  I have done a lot in a short period of time, but I've just hit some great resources here.  It'll be done in a couple of weeks, and will be the shining beauty it once was.   All the High School kids in my area love my two Pintos....and when I was in High School it was nothing more than an economy car, made to be driven, worn out, and thrown away...my how things change.  Great question though blupinto...sorry if I sounded like I took your comment the wrong way, because I truly didn't.  Have a great day!!!!!  Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

blupinto

Yes... everybody's got one, and most stink! lol.

I was asking because if the top wasn't shredded and you didn't want it I was going to ask what you'd sell it for. I think mine would look great in a vinyl-top.
Since you kinda asked... yes I prefer vinyl-tops because that was so '70s. Plus, it gave the Pinto a touch of class in my opinion. Larry, you've done wonders on what was Reed's '71 but what made it unique to me was the vinyl-top. I haven't seen a Pinto w/ a VT (in person) for many years. I never meant to sound mean about it... I'm just fond of them and sad that the world has lost another VT.  :'(
One can never have too many Pintos!

smallfryefarm

Larry they say opinions are like butt holes eveybodys got one. But since you ask i will give you mine.
I like the slick look with out the vinyl. Good to see you progressing so fast. keeper up.  ;D
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larjohnson

blupinto.....Well....the vinyl top was probably shredded when removed to repair the rust under it.  When I had my 1971 Pinto trunk model in High School, I actually added a maroon vinyl top to it, and it looked great on it.  So....if I decide to replace the top, I'll probably put maroon back on; however, at this point, I just love the look of the slick top, and just don't think I want a vinyl top back on.  This 71 from Reed, just will never be original, but it will be great!!!!!  So.....guess we'll just have to wait and see....maybe I should take a poll and see what others think.  What's your vote?????  I know they're rare with the vinyl tops...so maybe??????   Thanks....Larry :police:

dga57....Yes....you know, my wife and I love to take little trips every once in a while...who knows...maybe we could meet half way between our homes, meet each other and see our Pintos....or my wife and I may just venture to your neck of the woods, and bring the 71....anyway, I hope to post some good pix soon, that of course is when the beauty is fully complete.....Hey have a great day...appreciate your comments....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Larry!
You have made astounding progress on Reed's old Pinto... and in such a short period of time :surprised:.  I sure hope I get to see this jewel in person someday!
Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

blupinto

Larry, I know you said you weren't planning on replacing the vinyl-top... whatever became of it?
One can never have too many Pintos!

larjohnson

Okay, went Friday and picked up the 1971 Pinto from the shop...guess what????  There's no rearend noise now.  Yay!!!!!!!  :lol: I took her home, didn't get much chance to work on it this week end, but was able to hook the heat and defrost back up and the outside air vents.  I then went ahead and worked on putting the dash back together, including the addition of the new dash cap and....... the new radio I got from Fred Morgan.  The dash looks almost new :smile:.  I went ahead and dyed the dash cluster again, as it was a little faded, and I put the new Pinto woodgrain emblem on the dash, I recently got off EBAY.  The car is coming around right nicely.  I have an appointment on July 31, 2009 to take it in for the new headliner....then when I get her back, I just have to install the carpet and seats.  It's going to be ready for show pretty soon....I cannot wait......keep ya posted....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

dga57

Sounds fantastic, Larry!  Enjoy!

Dwayne :smile:
Pinto Car Club of America - Serving the Ford Pinto enthusiast since 1999.

larjohnson

Okay.... Shop called me today, and the rearend on the 1971 Pinto has been rebuilt.  Hallelujah :D.  This means all I have left, that I know about, is getting the new headliner put in.  I have purchased the new one, have the shop who's going to install it, and I'll be taking her there next week.  Once I get her back, then the new interior I've purchased will be installed.  This baby will look and run brand spanking new. ;D  I can't wait to take her to her first show....which will probably be at the all Ford car show in Middletown Indiana in September.  Well...back to the grind.... Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

discolives78

I should hope it looks good as new. With all you've done, it practically is new! :o

Keep up the good work Larry!

Chuck :afro:


A virtual version of my last Pinto. Was Registered Ride #111. Missed every day.

larjohnson

Well...Friday July 3, 2009, I took the 1971 Pinto to the shop to have the rear end rebuilt.  They called me today, and have found the gears and such needed for the rebuild, they are ordered, and being shipped as we speak.  Probably in the next week or so the rear end will be as good as new...then off to the upholstery shop for the new headliner.  The car will be put back together hopefully within the next month, and will almost looka as good as new.  It's a beautiful car....I love this Pinto....Larry :police:
Had a 1971 trunk model in High School, wanted another for old times sake, just purchased another in Washington State, very nice restore project.  I also own an all original 1972 Ford Pinto Runabout, one owner, always garaged, with 33,000 actual miles.  Life is SWEET!!!!

71pintoracer

Really looks good Larry, You should be proud! ;D Yea, you got a nice car from Reed but you have put a lot of time, effort and hard work into it yourself. And Matt's right, most any car show you go to there will be several early Mustangs, but Pinto's? Not so much!! BTW, I'm kinda partial to the '71 trunk model myself! :D
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Fred Morgan

Larry your part's were shipped today at 10:30 AM Oklahoma time from OK thanks Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
http://www.fordpinto.com/in-memory-of-our-fallen-pinto-heros/fred-morgan-23434/

smallfryefarm

Larry wow it is beautifull!!!! I am so jealous, but so glad for you, you deserve it.
Smallfryefarms Horsepower Ranch