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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Finally got a couple days to work on my pinto

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smallfryefarm

Yes as well put by alan jackson it just takes money.
Im running 27" tall tires and t5 trans. I am thinking 380 gear.
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71hotrodpinto

Ohhh sheeesh, a 4.62????!!!! Wow with the pinto sized rear tires and a c4 that would be about 4500 at 75mph! LOL :lol:
Heck of a take off though!
I just have plain 'peg leg' 3.40 and im thinking 3.00 posi later on. Once i start driving its going to be mostly freeway for me. :fastcar:

Id just love a gear vendors OD. But MAN $2500!!
Oh well money money money money money money........


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B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
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Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
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smallfryefarm

Thanks guys for the remarks. I cant wait to drive her. I am running 3" exhaust with 3" flowmasters. I want to keep the sleeper affect but i just cant do with out hearing her lope at a idle. And once the trigger is pulled the sleeper affect is out the window anyway. Man a cruise in would be to awesome i would love to have a chance to go over each others cars and bench race.  :drunk: I do plan to sneak in on 71pintoracer and shake his hand for all his help. This has taken along time but would not have got this far with out his help. And wouldnt of had near the job i got either.  I have to install the new gear the 462 has to come out but will be ok to test it with.
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75bobcatv6

we dont have those Burger joints here anymore. Unfortunately. I miss bob's. yeah the 60's wotn fit. The Hush powers will work but as you stated 150 a pop. so thats 300 bones. Gotta local shop that knows what i want and hes willing to do the whole thing High flow cats and all for 400. All i have to do is find Headers for a 3.8 ... Should be fun and expensive im sure.

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on July 03, 2009, 12:42:50 AM
mine will be a sleeper, but yes the Exhaust sound has to meet my standards. so 2 1/2 in piping with 60 series flowmasters should be nice. I might even go Borla but i really dont like the sound of them too much. smallfyre, and 71 both those cars are Just sweet. sleeper or not i like them both

Hey thanks man, I appreciate it. Im sure Small does as well!
  Can you fit the 60 series under the car? They are big. Ment for SUV's really.
Flowmaster also makes one i wanted and thats the "Hushpower". Killer sound, very mellow compared to flowmasters, but waaay expensive. Near 150 a muffler. Sheesh!

MAN Small, i wish we were near each other to hit up BOB's BIG BOY in my neighborhood! Woould be siiicckk! LOL . Dam to have a 4 or more pinto showing there would shut up all the car snobs!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

75bobcatv6

mine will be a sleeper, but yes the Exhaust sound has to meet my standards. so 2 1/2 in piping with 60 series flowmasters should be nice. I might even go Borla but i really dont like the sound of them too much. smallfyre, and 71 both those cars are Just sweet. sleeper or not i like them both

71hotrodpinto

Yah unless hes got some "super turbo quiet muffs" then its game over LOL! Stay away from Flowmasters at all costs!! They just cant be mistaken for a sleeper of any kind!   

I,on the other hand, Loove the flowmaster sound. Just cant help it.

I had to give up the sleeper look myself when i realized that the Milodon pan was a dead giveaway. Then the Flowmasters 40 series, then the "big" wide centerlines, then the final nail in the sleeper coffin was the cowl hood.

Cant wait to see a vid of it motoring down!
Just take it easy for a few hundred and dont forget to change oils etc etc before you start nailing it hard...
GL!!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

71pintoracer

Quote from: smallfryefarm on July 02, 2009, 08:16:33 AM
Mr rice burner will never know what is hiding in grandpas pinto.
I am sooo envious of that sleeper look David! :amazed: No one, I mean no one will even give me a sideways glance!! Think I am giving too much away? I hope yer dang mufflers are super loud!! :lol:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

75bobcatv6

K&N makes one as well as Edelbrock both have the Triangle ones. I Have a CAI in my closet for mine. When i get the motor in anyways. lol

smallfryefarm

I am not sure what brand it is but it is low profile triangle shaped air cleaner. I am going to get the double chrome tube kit from summitt later when i get every thing else done. i wanted to keep it under the hood but i am very jealus of your hood i would definatly go for that.
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71hotrodpinto

Hmmm loookinnng gooood!


Hey what are you going to run for an air cleaner? I tried for months and 6 different ideas and nothing would fit under my stock hood. Problem for me was the edelbrock Air Gap was taller than i could compensate for. I said the heck with it and got my cowl hood. Now my 13" ford motorsport air cleaner has a 4 in element and it barely fits! But it does.


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

smallfryefarm

Well i aint done yet but i am so far from where i started. I got all the sheet metal fitted and put back on last night and it is taking shape. Mr rice burner will never know what is hiding in grandpas pinto. unless i open the hood to check the oil or maybe mash down my right foot.  ;D ;D ;D
when i open up the hood i am just going to look suprised and say how did that get in their.
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smallfryefarm

Hey Grumpy i really appreciate the comment. I have put my whole heart in this project and ALL my money!
I have learned that patience and persistance has sweet rewards. I have done and redone till i am happy.
I have never had this much fun with my clothes on.  :lol:
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Grumpy

smallfryefarm

AWESOME CAR! That's one of the best installations I've seen. Can't wait to see it on the road!

Grumpy 8)
79 Pinto Hatch, Yellow w/White Pony stripes, Pony wheels, 6650 miles

smallfryefarm

Finally things are becomeing complete. Under the hood is done except i need a flex fan. Every thing in the trunk is complete. Under the car i need to put the exhaust on and move the rear back 1/2 inch then it is done. inside the car i need to install the headliner but it will come later. I dressed her up last night for the forth of july check out the wire looms.
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smallfryefarm

I changed the water pump put on the pulleys and they lined up perfect. What a relief. i made the alternater bracket and got it on their. Got all my brake lines run. I put my proporting valve in side so i can reach it while i drive to adjust to the road conditions. I need to get some meats fitted to the front end and i could probably sit her down and take a little test ride.   8) any way it wont be long. the next time you see the motor it will have all the blue and red wire looms on and lookin good. But here is pixs of the pulleys and progress.
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smallfryefarm

Have not been able to work on her for a few days. Its hay season. Did get a few issues worked out. Ford Motorsports sent me a new water pump to try with the pulleys they sent. They will work perfect together. The other short water pump is motorcraft. Part # M-8501-E351 It didnt work with thier pulleys so i will post this pump in classifieds. I did get a lot of the knew brake lines installed. Wont be long, soon as hay is over.
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71pintoracer

Can't wait to hear about the test drive! :fastcar: I absolutely LOVE driving my car!! When I nail her in second gear and it gets all squirrley and the glass pac's are barking...oh man what a rush!! ;D ;D ;D
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

smallfryefarm

Thanks 71hotrodpinto i loved your video your car sounds awesome and the motor looks great in their. I can tell you took your time and did it rite. beatifull job

Thanks 71pr i tell you it is such a load off my shoulders. Now i can calm down and finish her up.
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71pintoracer

GREAT!! Glad to hear you got it fired. No better feeling, huh? And yea, the mutha thumper cams rock! ;D Easy on the first test drive, there's lotsa power under your right foot! :o
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

71hotrodpinto

Hayyy yeeeaahh!!
Right on man! Its a great feeling huh! Now got to just button up all the loose ends and put her down! Man that engine compartment! Im friggen jealous!!
I have to share as well though. I posted this over a year ago and im sure its in the shadows of darkeness but here cheky this out.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/71Ford-V8-Pinto-My-5-year_129249.htm


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil


smallfryefarm

not sure if this will work on not. give it a try short video of inital start up of the catsass  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l3RzZtbOj4
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smallfryefarm

Thanks for the encourgment guys my head has been hanging low. BUT guess what i fired it up last night  ;D ;D ;D I have been dying to hear what the mutha thumper cam shaft was going to sound like and believe me it was not disapointing. It sound nasty!!!! It is just totally unbelievable the idle that this cam gives i went out and started it 6 or 7 times its like taking viagra. :amazed: Now install brake lines and test drive. 71pr if you need directions let me know. 71hotrodpinto i would love to do some bench racing with you  :drunk:  :drunk:.  SO MUCH PRESSURE OFF. happy happy happy.
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71hotrodpinto

Quote from: 71pintoracer on June 16, 2009, 08:47:20 PM
Hang in there David, you're so close! Those little bugs that pop up sure are annoying though. Are you using a Holley pump? I had nothing but trouble with them on my dirt car. Chucked it and the regulator and put a carter pump on that didn't need a regulator and never had another problem. Got it from Summit and it was way cheaper than the Holley.
I'd love to be there to help and hear it when it fires!! In fact, I feel like a road trip in the Pinto is just what the doctor ordered! See ya in a few hours!!  :fastcar:  :lol:

Wish i could go! Get a couple o beers and get absolutly nothing done but emptying bottles and bench racing. That would be cool. I love "helping out"! im a bit far out though in CA!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

71hotrodpinto

Quote from: smallfryefarm on June 16, 2009, 09:14:49 AM
Such a discouraging week :( Still having fuel pressure problems. Put a second new regulator on better but not rite. Took the new fuel pump apart. Cleaned the pop off valve cleaned it real good put it back together really couldn't find any thing wrong. It is holding 3 lbs cant change it now sometimes it goes up to 6 guess it will have to get another pump. Also found that the new red top optima battery that came with the car is bad, never been used but sit in the trunk probably for a couple years. Stopped this morning bought a new one. When i got to work my new pulleys from ford motorsports had arrived, tried to post pics but they wont load for some reason. This thing is gonna fire this week if i have to blow gas in it with my mouth. Never had anything whip my a$$ like this thing has this week, every time i turn around. Maybe i will feel better when i hear it, surely it cant keep going bad. I may have to fly down and pick up 71pr and bring him up for a couple days. Need to put a smiley face that has a help sign on it or one with a white flag.  maybe a smiley face holding a sign that says i am going nuckin futz

Hey dont be to discouraged Hell your way beyond where i was in your time frame!! Remember I fired my car last year and that was 5 years after i started!!
So about the fuel pump. Is it electric or mechanical? If its electrical you might not be getting all the amps to the fuel pump that it needs to supply the pressure its designed to deliver. Maybe re-evaluate your wiring job? Just a thought!
Also have you ruled out the gage? Never know it might be a faulty gauger verses a bad fuel pump and a bad regulator.

Yes when your doing a V8 Pinto install things can get real frustrating. I know from experience. A general rule is "it will take 3 times longer than you estimated, and cost 2 times as much as you budgeted for" In my case it took 5 times longer and cost 3 times as much LOL!
I cant remember how many times Ive been asked "So how long will this take?" and Ive said " 6 months tops! " I stopped saying that i knew how long it would take after i think 4 years or so.

Ive got over 6000 in my car just since i started and i cant see where i put it! (and still no paint) Plus i think Ive got another 300 in upgrades I'm planning to do very soon. (not to mention now i have to get a new valence and a new L fender  :() It goes so fast!

So Chin up! Set goals, but dont be overtaken by them! Persevere and you will emerge VICTORIOUS!!


95' 302,Forged Pistons,Polished rods
B303,1.7 Rockers,beehives
'68 port/polish heads                   
Coated Must II headers
Edelbrock Airgap
Holley570,Msd dist,CraneHI6
Mil

71pintoracer

Hang in there David, you're so close! Those little bugs that pop up sure are annoying though. Are you using a Holley pump? I had nothing but trouble with them on my dirt car. Chucked it and the regulator and put a carter pump on that didn't need a regulator and never had another problem. Got it from Summit and it was way cheaper than the Holley.
I'd love to be there to help and hear it when it fires!! In fact, I feel like a road trip in the Pinto is just what the doctor ordered! See ya in a few hours!!  :fastcar:  :lol:
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

smallfryefarm

Such a discouraging week :( Still having fuel pressure problems. Put a second new regulator on better but not rite. Took the new fuel pump apart. Cleaned the pop off valve cleaned it real good put it back together really couldnt find any thing wrong. It is holding 3 lbs cant change it now sometimes it goes up to 6 guess it will have to get another pump. Also found that the new red top optima battery that came with the car is bad, never been used but sit in the trunk probably for a couple years. Stopped this morning bought a new one. When i got to work my new pulleys from ford motorsports had arrived, tried to post pics but they wont load for some reason. This thing is gonna fire this week if i have to blow gas in it with my mouth. Never had anything whip my a$$ like this thing has this week, every time i turn around. Maybe i will feel better when i hear it, surely it cant keep going bad. I may have to fly down and pick up 71pr and bring him up for a couple days. Need to put a smiley face that has a help sign on it or one with a white flag.  maybe a smiley face holding a sign that says i am going nuckin futz
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smallfryefarm

Well i have made several sets of pulleys none of which i am satisfied with, so i called and ordered some from ford motorsports last week they should be in hopefully today. I put my rear end back in sat. Also got my quartermaster alum drive shaft in, perfect fit. I was worried about the length.
My son is making me a new shifter that will bring it back 2 inches. The best part the knob is a piston out of a motor cycle. It is going to be sweeet. I will post a pic of it when he is done.

I gotta get internet at home i am missing the pool partys.  :'( Sounds like you guys are having WAY to much fun.
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71hotrodpinto thanks i think she will fire this week. youve got a good looking hotrod going looks like your close to being done. Good luck post some pics of her when your done.
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