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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

bob gliddens pintos

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gpinto2

Quote from: pigmy pony on November 27, 2008, 06:58:52 AM
simply call bob glidden....yea right. GOT HIS #??i'D LOVE TO
he could tell me right away based on my info if ya know him have call me
or a place to call

PM me,I can get you in touch with Bob's son Billy and he can help you
1972 Pinto 410,C-4

Norman Bagi

Agreed, very nice Pinto..... :drunk:


V8pinto_306_n2o

What size tires are you running on that?  (rear tires)

V8pinto_306_n2o


pigmy pony

your right ,it's a very well built cool car,was just tryin to get info not b.s. thanks for the input.
woked on her more today,puting her back togeather all fresh

r4pinto

They were just making a suggestion, not saying it was possible or not. I would have to agree just by comparing the pics found online to yours there is no way it's a Glidden car, especially if they are all accounted for.
Just enjoy it for what it is, and that is a cool Pinto race car.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pigmy pony

simply call bob glidden....yea right. GOT HIS #??i'D LOVE TO
he could tell me right away based on my info if ya know him have call me
or a place to call

Turbo Toy

Quote from: pigmy pony on November 26, 2008, 10:23:38 PM
nothin stock about this car!


I hate to bust your bubble, but with the pics and the parts you listed above, there's nothing Glidden about it either. Especially that Cleveland. It seems to be a nice car, so why don't you just leave it at that and enjoy it.

pigmy pony

nothin stock about this car!

pigmy pony

full frame chassie,aussy special order nascar block, ford x-A-3 heads has fiberglass frontclip removable hood,doors

turbopinto72

Good Post Curtis. Thanks for the memories........... ;D. Us old guys need to remind each other about the good old days before we completely forget it all...........MMm now, what was I saying............ :o
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

Turbo Toy

I doubt that it is a Glidden car, since it appears to be a stock type front suspensinon and I also think that all the Glidden car are accounted for. . Pro Stock was so screwed up in the early days that it's hard to remember what all took place. It used to be based on weight to cubic inch and wheelbase was also a factor. In 1972 the rules were changed and tube chassis was allowed, but the wheelbase had to remain stock. Jenkins took full advantage of the rules and built the small block, short wheelbase, tube chassis Vega.The rest is history. There was a rule for just about every combination known to man. Long wheelbase cars would get different weight breaks for different engine combos, as did the short cars. A long wheelbase, small engine car got a pretty good break and was the reason for the Gapp and Roush Maverick and Wally Booth going to a bigger car. There were probably more Pintos built for Pro Stock than any other car. On the other hand, the Hemi Colts were something to watch, especially when they turned over backwards. Wheelbases ranged from 92" to around 108" . I don't remamber off hand what year they allowed stretching the wheelbase, but I think it was around 1982. Then came the 500 inch motors, standard weight and parity.Todays Pro Stock cars are probably the most technically challenging cars in drag racing, but Lordy, Lordy, the old days sure were fun. Ben Jones is a friend of mine and only lives a few miles up the road. The body is long gone, but the chassis for his Pinto Pro Stocker is still at his shop and he still has a Bob Glidden built, furnace brazed, 427 Cleveland that used to ride in it. Ben still holds the record for the fastest, normally aspirated Pinto. All of this is just from memory and I'm getting old, so it may not be spot on. I have lived through the greatest years of drag racing and factory hot rods and I wouldn't trade the experiences and memories I have for anything in the world. Just an old guys ramblings.

map351

 "It's impossible to tell anything from those two images. The best bet for that guy is to simply contact Glidden and ask him to make the critical identifications.

It would certainly be great if it were Bob's. The problem, however, is the tons of Pro Stock Pintos which were built from '71-'74 which were eventually spread all over the continent.

Based on the low-resolution images, the first name which came to my mind when I saw the rear three-quarter view was Leroy Roeder; he ran a PS Pinto in UDRA competition in '76-'78.

Bret Kepner"
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Wittsend

Back about that time I believe the Pro Stock cars were still required to have the factory floor pan though the rules allowed for transmission tunnels, tubbing and inner front fenders and a full roll cage.  To my knowledge none of the Pro Stockers were ever allowed to alter their stock wheelbase.  That is what made the Gapp & Roush, 4 door Maverick a competitive car.  For that matter it was why Wally Booth switched from a Gremlin to a Hornet.  It was because the NHRA allowed for for the longer wheelbase to be factor at a different CID to weight ratio.  Hence, the car (4 door Maverick over a Pinto), not an alteration to stock wheelbase was the method employed.

All that fiddling around with CID factoring and longer wheelbases was to break the Mopar (primarily Ronny Sox) dominance and then subsequently Bill Jenkin's Vega.
Tom

map351

I didn't think the pintos were converted street cars, I thought they were mandated by NHRA Roof/QTs/Rockers to keep the factory look but full Moly chassis cars with a stretched WB all Don Hardy cars? You could look for the date stamps on the sheet metal.

Curtis will know for sure.

Glidden NHRA 3 Time Pro Stock World Champion
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=CH1007-53790

I sent Bret Kepner a e-mail on this see if he pops in..

Mike
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6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
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Norman Bagi

Any pics I have seen of the Glidden Pintos had long noses on them, this nose length look spretty stock.  This also looks like it was a factory built car, not a tube chasis funny car.

r4pinto

Dave, excellent point! I completely forgot that was there until you mentioned it. It's worth a try to type in the VIN in the decoder on this site.

I did some digging trying to find pics of the Glidden Pintos & it was just too hard to tell. The only thing I can tell for sure is that the 72s he drove did have the skinny bumpers on them.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

dave1987

Does your car still have the original dash in it? It so, it may still have a VIN tag in the driver's corner of it. We have a VIN decoder here on the site that would be able to tell you some little details about the car.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Wittsend

I'm curious to know what inclines you to believe this might be a Glidden car? Any indicators to go that way?  My recolloction was that the first car was a metallic red and said, "Glidden & Allen" on the side.  It was the old Gapp and Roush car. From there on I recall them (the Pinto's) being the white base with red/blue flag style them.  Is there any paint indicating either in obscure areas?

The other things to look at are old magazines that might show a one off Glidden inspired part.

Tom

r4pinto

You have a picture of the front body panels? That might shed a little more light on it. I would have to agree with the others that those bumpers are definitely not from a 72. As the others have said those bumpers were not on the cars until 74.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pigmy pony


dave1987

Couldn't be a 72 bumper. 71 - 73 had thin bumpers. 74 they started putting 5mph crash bumpers on them. I would like to say 74, judging by the holes in it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

pigmy pony

Q#1 351 aussy 4bolt block a3  ford alum x heads
2; don't know u tell me think 72

turbopinto72

Quote from: pigmy pony on November 17, 2008, 07:42:04 AM
anybody have info on these cars (4) i believe.
72 in perticular????(mine is one)I believe,,,,, ???

Is that a 74 bumper on that car?
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

NoForKin

nice what size is the motor
          NoForKin

pigmy pony


pigmy pony


pigmy pony

will post pics when I figer out how

Srt

the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

Norman Bagi

If you have one of Gliddens Pintos, I know you are coming to Carlisle in three years.  That puppy must be on display if it is the real McCoy.