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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Front disc Brakes (4 & 5 Lug)

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Pintony

The 74-UP spindle are 1"+ taller than the early Pinto spindle.
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FCANON

I still wonder how much difference the 74 and up spindle has compaired to a 73 and down... if its a few machined parts it would open alot of doors for parts to swap.

Frank
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77turbopinto

I had a little different experience doing the upgrade to my 77. I purchased the kit with Granada rotors from rjays.com, and purchased the hoses locally.

I had to remove the dust sheild and had clearence issues with the lower control arm to the rotor. It looked fine until I put it back on its wheels and then it rubbed.

Also, I am using 14" alum. wheels with no problems; maybe the early cars need 15s with this swap??


Bill
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gawdzuki

So from what i understand is... That the front brake assy, from 73 and earlier is different from 74 and later...
Well, thanks for the information. I am planning on going with 15" wheels and was thinking on switching to a 5 lug pattern. hmmm. Here is a question. does anyone know if the lower A arm can be replaced to get rid of the lower control arm. I though I saw it somewhere. Not sure.
  Well, I guess that it will be a little more research to get everything done that I want to.

turbopinto72

Now, the down side to this project. 1) Modifying the brackets. 2) this setup is heavier than the stock 73 setup. The stock rotor is approx 9 lbs, the Granada rotor is 14 lbs. The stock caliper and bracket, loaded, is 7 lbs, the GM caliper and bracket, loaded is 6 lbs. Thats a net increase of +(-) 4 lbs per side. 3) You MUST use 15" or larger wheels to clear the calipers.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

inside looking at the bracket.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Top front view.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

An inside view
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

This is the top of the caliper.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Here is a head on view.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

I did need to shim the bottom out also. It needed about 5/16".
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Here is what a 74 and up bracket looks like on a 73. You can see the missalignment.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

This picture you can see how much I moved the top mounting insert from the 74 and up bracket.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Front brakes part 2. Ive got the calipers on now. Here is what I did. I used a front caliper from a 1983 Monte Carlo Part # 208783-C160 and # 208785-C161. $11.99 + core charge of $10.00 each. I used a Duralast Gold brake pad # 529457 DG154 $ 28.99. You will need 2 pair of " brakeware" H5004 or Wagner F6074 or Bendix H5004 bolts that go through the caliper and allow the caliper to slide on the bracket.You need 2 , 1/2-20x2" 1/4 bolts and 2, 7/16-14x2" bolts to fasten the bracket to the spindle. You need 2 Brackets. This is a problem because Nobody makes them for 71-73 cars. For 74 and up you can use the brackets you can buy off ebay. I bought my brackets off ebay and modified them for a 71-73 type spindle. I cut the top mounting insert off, then mounted the caliper using the lower bolt. I threaded the top bolt into the threaded insert I cut off the bracket and used compressed air to move the caliper piston into its correct position. With the caliper firmly locked up on the rotor I tack welded the top bracket/insert in place. Then I took it all apart and welded the insert to the bracket.
The next few pictures will show you what it looks like.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

RNRPINTO

MP Brakes warns you will need 15" wheels with the Mustang II kit. I want to do Granada rotors, will I need 15" wheels?

roadracebobcat

I know that the 1979-1982 Mustang 4 cylinder models used 10" brake rotors, and I have seen some Pinto racers (B-Sedan) with those rotors and calipers, with an adapter to use the Mustang caliper on the Pinto steering knuckle. It takes some engineering and careful thought. Probably heat treating, etc. I know it will work, because I have seen it. It will even fit in a 13" wheel.  Some SCCA racers should be able to verify this.

73wagon

 1. Why won't the later model rotors fit the early cars? I'm told all the bearings are the same. 2. Are the mounting points for early and late calipers the same? I know that the height of the spindle assembly is different but are the caliper mounting points different as well ?  Incidentally, Falcon, Mustang and Maverick 4 lugs are 4 1/2 bolt circle diameter like early Datsuns, Toyotas etc.

turbopinto72

 OIC, I know the Mustang II had 4 lug disc rotors that will work on a pinto spindle. It would stand to reason that a falcon might  ???, not sure though. The probblem is that even though the " Hot Rod" guys use M II/Pinto spindles on their cars, They like the 5 lug pattern for better wheel options. Every Hot Rod supplyer I have called wont even think about doing a 4 lug, larg Dia. rotor and caliper set up becouse as far as they are concerned there is no market for it.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

HighHooder

what I mean is that a Versaille or Granada swap makes for a 5-lug set up, as compared to the standard pinto 4-lug.  What other fords came with this same 4-lug disk brake set up?  It can't just be pintos.  I suppose if you live someplace where Cortinas are common you could rob them of their disk brakes...

I dunno, maybe I'm just thinking "out loud", but there HAS to be other sources for 4-lug disk brakes to swap into a pinto.
Proud owner of a 1972 Ford Exploder

turbopinto72

Yes, there was a disk brake option from the factory. Im not sure what you mean by " availabe elsewhere as a 4-lug swap"  ???
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

HighHooder

Okay, so here's the deal... I have a '72 1600cc trunkmodel.  It has disk brakes, and by the looks of everything they are ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT from the MANUFACTURER.  I'm talking even my brake pedal has the "Disk Brakes" emblem on it.  I'm the third owner, it has 167k original miles, this car is still running the original clutch (yes, it's slipping and the t/o bearing makes a bit of noise).  I can't see any modifications besides a poorly done re-upholstery job on the drivers seat.

so, I guess what I'm asking is "Didn't these cars come with a disk brake option?"... mine seems to have ??? (and if so, wouldn't this be available elsewhere as a 4-lug swap?)
Proud owner of a 1972 Ford Exploder

turbopinto72

Also the same measurement as stock at the rotor surface to A arm.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Now comes the good part. I measured the same points as the factory unit to deturman if there is any difference in rotor off set. As you can see, there is NO DIFFERENCE. The same 3 3/4 " was measured from the A arm to the wheel mounting surface.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Here is a view from the back side. You can see the factory mounting holes for the caliper, which I will use on the new calipers.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

 Now, with the dust shield off the rotor was installed. I used the SAME berrings and rear seal out of my stock unit. Yes they do fit and are the same size.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

 Next, the rotor was fitted with bearings and pre fitted on the spindle. It was determined that the dust shield, where it fits around the back side of the rotor, hits. This does not alow the rotor to slide all the way on. SO, off went the dust shield.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

This pic showes the stock unit and the distance between the top A arm and the rotor surface. This measurement is 2".
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

 Ok, Ive got the Granada rotors on. Here are some pictures of the rotor swap with measurements. This first pic is of the stock 9", 4 lug 1973 rotor. The distance between the top A arm and the wheel mounting surface is 3 3/4 "
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

turbopinto72

Thanks for the info Dick. I have purchased a pair of Granada rotors and will be starting the swap soon ( 1973 Pangra). As allways I will have a ton of pictures and all the measurments you will need.
Brad F
1972, 2.5 Turbo Pinto
1972, Pangra
1973, Pangra
1971, 289 Pinto

dick1172762

Late model Pinto (74/80) front  brakes can be put onto a 71/73 Pinto two ways. The 74/80 calipers can be adapted to the 71/73 spindals with a little machine work. Or the entire unit (spindal/caliper/rotor) can be adapted by useing different ball joints/tie rod ends. Changing the entire unit is the best way. I've done both with better brakes both ways.
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