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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

I think I got taken on my car

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gvanlr

I have a sandblast and paint shop,and Im a body &paint man.forget the welding of your body and go to a fiberglass shop and buy a fiberglass primer,there are a few kinds,the one I like is called 8084,you put the 8084 on bare metal then fiberglass over to patch holes and will even hold 2 pieces of metal togeather as strong as if they were welded.then just body fill over the glass,you will have a great looking car when your done . Larry

r4pinto

It came out of a Ford Fairmont, but any newer model Ford... Escort, Tempo, LTD, etc.. up until about 91 would prolly have a fuse box that will fit.. It's not too hard as you just have to match wires up and cut one at a time...
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

pimpin_pinto

what did you get the fuse box out of?

r4pinto

Hey all,

Latest update: After deciding to put a newer fuse box in my car I started to cut the wires on the old, and splice in the new... It actually fit in perfectly, and when I got done I had a newer style fuse box... Now I can use regular fuses as opposed to the glass fuses, which I'm happy about... Anyways, Before I did this conversion the fuel gauge never worked, and I assumed it was because the sending unit was bad... Guess what... it wasn't... I turned the key on after the fuse box conversion, and the fuel gauge worked perfectly... It read 3/4 tank, and I just had put about 7 gallons in it a few days ago... the Mean Green Machine is really coming along!
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Poison Pinto made a very good point to me...With all the parts he gave me including the oil pan that just got installed on the car today, I didn't really get ripped off as bad as I thought.. Yeah the car does have its share of problems, the worst being the tranny going out, but all in all it's goin to be ok.. I'll get it fixed up, then drive it all over the place, and show it off.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

r4pinto

Yeah Bill I know what you're sayin...

Unfortunately I noticed the tranny IS slipping before it shifts to 2nd, so I'm gonna grab another tranny for it... Funny thing... My dad hated me getting the Pinto, but he's even telling me how easy this car is to work on, as he still remembers changin the engine in a day  outta the 77 wagon he used to own... Even he says I can have the engine & tranny changed out in a weekend without working on it non stop.

Sounds like I might just end up doing that then :)
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

Bill

Quote from: straw boss on August 23, 2004, 03:36:24 PM
If you got  $u©kê®ëd into their shop with a "coupon special" for a trans fluid and filter change, you would ALWAYS get the bad news...your transmission needs rebuilding.

This isn't limited to tranny shops.  I've found out a good amount of auto repair shops are really into unethical high pressure "upselling" of repairs that aren't really needed.  Yes, they do look for certain individuals to prey upon.

Until I ended up living in an inner-city apartment with street parking I ALWAYS did my own work, except for the rare need for machine shop work.  By no means am I a professional mechanic, but I certainly know when something is wrong with my vehicle and how to figure out what is wrong, and specifically what needs to be repaired or replaced.

It almost every place I have taken a vehicle to be aligned dreams up some story about how bad my shocks are.  If I tell them they have been replaced they want to know what brand so they pop back with a reply about how crappy that brand is and I need to replace them again.  I told one place I would replace the shocks at home.  They insisten an alignment wasn't possible with bad shocks.l

I needed the tranny fluid and filter changed.  I also have a leaking extension housing seal.  I found it would be impossible to have only those those items serviced.  They insist that I probably need a new tranny because I have 128K miles on it and the extension housing seal is leaking.  I took care of the fluid and filter myself in less time than it took to argue with these places that I only need A and B done.  I will replace the extension housing seal myself.

I goofed.  I failed to check the front brake pads and wore down one of the pads and scoured the rotor.  Not really a big deal.  I took my Ranger pickup to four different places.  The estimates ranged from $480 to $650.  Figure in the costs involved.  $200 for a set of rotors and $50 for brake pads.  (The average $100 fee for front brake service would be the cost of brake pads since the new rotors do not need to be turned).  Generally you would expect new pads and rotors to run a total of $300 to a high of $400. The fact that the metal backing on the pad scoured the rotor must have made them think they could inflate this price based on "neglect.   Again, the only item damaged was a rotor (the other side was due for replacement anyway).   The detailed estimates included bogus charges such as $148 wheel bearing repacking fee (I'm not kidding!!) and.  $40 to $60 for a brake fluid flush.  One place insisted that the calipers needed to be replaced because the heat from the bad rotor made it hot.

Jesus!!  How much do people spend for repair work they don't need?

crazyhorse

If it still won't shift heck the vacuum modulator on the side of the tranny. that will make it shift hard &not go into drive.
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r4pinto

Thanx for the input on tranny & engine replacement... I'll end up holding it together with gum and duck tape..lol

Anyways, I did fix a problem that the car had, called THE WRONG SHIFTER!!!

The guy put a shifter from a mustang in it, and it didn't really fit in there.. I went to the junk yard and got one from an LTD. I had to remove the part the linkage goes to, since on the LTD it was a cable shift, as opposed to linkage shift on my Pinto.

I have to make a couple minor adjustments, but it'll work perfectly... It even fills up the hole that was there in the floor.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

WVBobcat77

If you want a C4, look for one out of an 82 Mustang 2.3, I got mine for $75 bucks.  Bolted right in.
Bill in WV

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1978 Pinto - V6 Sedan

Poison Pinto

QuoteEverthing Im doing to mine is just practice for when I get a good body.

Pete: Maybe if you'd work out a bit more and stop drinking beer and stalking people at the library....

;D

Matt: Sorry to hear about your experience. Pete's right, though. A straight-up engine/tranny swap can be done in a weekend...even if it's your first time. Just read through your manual's removal procedure several times before you do it. The first engine and tranny I ever pulled from a car was in a salvage yard. I suggest you pull the salvage car first (if you go to a yard that lets you pull your own) so if you damage the car somehow it's no big loss (nor is it your car). Then you know what to look for/do when you pull the drive train on your car.

On the bodywork, get some door/window screen material. JB Weld (it's a two-part mixture you can get at an auto store) the edges of the screen to the back of the body panel behind the large rusted areas. (Sand out the rust area first.) Now you have something the Bondo can grab hold of. Bondo, sand, paint.

On the "frame," check out the various threads dealing with sub-frame connectors.
I left my Pinto in front of my house last night. This morning there were two more left with it.

Glassman

I know what your feeling.  >:( :( :-\

Look at another "good" thing is that from what I can tell, the rust isnt as bad as what my wagon has. I wouldnt worry about the speedo for now. Ive read on another Ford dedicated site that Ford speedos can  be off by as much as 7 mph. Im not sure how true it is. Think of this though. I used to work with a guy that had a pevious job calibrating new speedos that went to Ford and some of the stories he told about how he would do it hung over or still drunk from the night before (he was a singer and guitar player for a band that sounded a lot like Metallica), made me wonder.

Anyway I had almost no welding experiece when I started the wagon. Oh that reminds me. Everthing Im doing to mine is just practice for when I get a good body. Maybe you can do the same. If I was closer to ya Id give you the 4 speed out of the wagon and help you swap pedals from a junked car.

Have you changed the tranny fluid? Im not sure if you have a vacuum modulator on the trans , but, if all the emissions are gone than the vacuum hose going to the modulator might be gone too.

Stock engine swaps are pretty easy with Pintos. Id say you can do a swap in a weekend.
Hang in there.

r4pinto

Well,

The problem with the transmission is it does not shift unless you have it in the gear below drive on the shifter.. I don't know why, but it refuses to. After it goes into 2nd I can then get back into drive so it can shift into 3rd, which it barely finds... It also slams into gear when I select what gear to be in.... As for the engine, I 'm pretty sure I can find one for about 75 bux, less all the accessories, which are all good. I am pretty sure I can find a tranny for it also for the same price.

On these cars though what would I need to do to strengthen the frame?? It isn't as bad as the guy at Cottman said, as later on I jacked the car up by the unibody, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Also, what cars have the c-4?? I'm pretty sure what it is, being a 78.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress

straw boss

Sorry to hear that.  To put a positive spin on things, it ONLY cost you $335.  It could have been more.  You could always use it as a parts car.  A replacement engine from the junkyard should be dirt cheap. 
Does the transmission shift bad?  I have had bad experiences with tranny shops when I was younger.  Back in the early/mid '70s, it seems EVERY tranny shop in this area preyed on kids that didn't know much about cars.  If you got  $u©kê®ëd into their shop with a "coupon special" for a trans fluid and filter change, you would ALWAYS get the bad news...your transmission needs rebuilding.   I rebuild my own now.
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r4pinto

Well,

I just bought a 78 Pinto for 335 total, and I think I got taken... On the way home it died cuz the battery, and alternator was shot... The radio was shorting out, as the wiring on it was screwed up... I just got the car to Cottman transmissions, and there was no dipstick, and they told me the tranny was toast, the engine has excessive blowby, and almost all the body is rusty... I have replaced the alternator, put the battery from my Dodge Omni Turbo in it, but the hold down broke, and the battery hit the exhaust, and now leaks.. I have replaced the LF fender and put 13's on the back, but the speedo is still 5 mph off( was 10 mph off before) replaced the hood, and am about to replace both doors, and the RF fender.

All this, and there seems to be almost as much rust underneath as my old 1986 Honda Civic had on it... Also all the emmissions have been ripped off of the car, and it leaks oil badly from the pan.
Oh, and there's a broken leaf on the RR leaf spring.

I have alot of spare parts, but no knowledge to repair the rear quarter panels, and no money to replace the engine and transmission..

That and I cant weld, so I'm gonna have a time strengthening the frame on it... I've only had this car 4 days, and I already feel about it the way I have been feeling about my Omni Turbo restoration... PISSED!!!!

If anyone lives around me, or can help me out on this car in way of info I will REALLY appreciate it..

On the bright side, ti runs better than the Omni Turbo, as it will run for longer than 2-3 minutes.
Matt Manter
1977 Pinto sedan- Named Harold II after the first Pinto(Harold) owned by my mom. R.I.P mom- 1980 parts provider & money machine for anything that won't fit the 80
1980 Pinto Runabout- work in progress