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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Hotpants kit update

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map351

302PintoMan
I'm trying to keep the original kit at under $600.00 + shipping.



Pinto5.0
I've made 2 front covers and they come out nice just need a little sand/file fit, I have to modify the mold a little to add a little more under the headlight for a little more bolt up surface.



If anyone wants a front bumper cover or rear spoiler I'm trying to get the Hotpants done before NMRA Ford Expo in Columbus I can bring the glass with me and save the you shipping! Front Bumper cover/spoiler $250.00, rear spoiler $95.00 this is a 1 time price for the NMRA. Speak up quick i only have 2 made and I'm running out of resin & Gel coat, the next supply order will bump up the prices.

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

Pinto5.0

Map, if one of the front bumpers come out of the mold with damage around the wheelwell edge PM me. Im going to need to trim that area to work with my proposed flares so it can be damaged. Im in no hurry, Its gonna be well into next year before I get that far.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

popbumper

IIRC the whole setup was slated to be within the $600 range, but of course there'd be shipping on top of that.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

302PintoMan

so what is the cost of the whole set up for a 75?  I SHOULD have the wagon/trunk trade done tomm. 


I think the spoiler and such would REALLY set this car over the top.  Just need a cost guess-stamate to Texas  ;D
a true hot rodder wouldn't be content until he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick, that the very act of pressing the throttle, could result in instant death

map351

73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

wedge446

Quote from: map351 on June 12, 2010, 08:25:58 PM
Mold repair..

No matter how hard you try to get all the air pockets out they still end up in the corners.

Mike



Not sure if you tried but I use roven woven strains with some talc powder mixed in the gelcoat for the corners on my molds. I also use it in the corners of the parts.. Took care of my bubble trouble.
Just an idea
With a cutting torch and welded anything will fit.

map351

Pulled my 73 out of storage today and bolted on the new FBC.
Mike






73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

peleus21

i have a 77 cruzin wagon but it will have a 76 bobcat front end on it when i am finished.

map351

Quote from: peleus21 on June 30, 2010, 07:57:30 PM
sweet so ... when you gonna start selling pieces? i wouldn't mind having to buy the front and sides now and the rear later...

I'm working on making the front spoiler fit the 79/80, what year is your car?

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

peleus21

sweet so ... when you gonna start selling pieces? i wouldn't mind having to buy the front and sides now and the rear later...

map351

Got the second FBC made and found a set of 1980 fenders.

Mike




73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

map351

Quote from: popbumper on June 21, 2010, 03:44:04 PM
MIKE:

  Can you explain how this mounts? Are the bumper brackets (on the front) that connect the metal bumper insert to the frame rails involved? If so, how is the mounting accomplished. If not  :lol:, how is the mounting accomplished?

Thanks, becoming more and more interested as this moves along. Would NOT mind losing my chrome bumpers in favor of this setup.

Chris

Chris

There's 8 mounting points, 2 where the grill filler attaches to the fender( out board),2 on the center grill support,2 on the upper wheel opening, and 2 on the lower fender supports. You can leave the bumper supports on and bolt a piece of tubing across to connect them for a little safety or just take it all off and loose some weight. I'm guessing the FBC weights about 7Lbs.
From the bottom of the headlight door to the bottom of the spoiler is 11".

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

popbumper

MIKE:

  Can you explain how this mounts? Are the bumper brackets (on the front) that connect the metal bumper insert to the frame rails involved? If so, how is the mounting accomplished. If not  :lol:, how is the mounting accomplished?

Thanks, becoming more and more interested as this moves along. Would NOT mind losing my chrome bumpers in favor of this setup.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

blink77

Mike
I've got a 77 sedan delivery with 79/80 front sheetmetal
and it is a direct bolt on. Bumper aborbers are a little
different. I have one of your lower valances on it. I think
it might adapt quite nicely to a 79/80.
Bill

map351

Quote from: popbumper on June 19, 2010, 09:37:07 PM
Simply. Incredible. WOW.

Chris

Thanks Chris!!

Now for a highly technical question? Will a set of 1979/80 fenders bolt on a 77 uni body? Just looking for alternatives if i can't find a 79/80 pinto close to me.

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

popbumper

Simply. Incredible. WOW.

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

Pinto5.0

The grille is a '76 (my personal favorite). I have 2 NOS ones. The headlight buckets are pre-'76 since they dont appear to accept the chrome trim on '76s. Looks like somebody ditched the endura buckets & stock grille.

Bumper looks killer....I cant wait to see one painted.

It may just work with the '77-8 headlights & grille....
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: map351 on June 19, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
The built date is 6/77 it looks like all the front sheet metal is original?

if the build date is 6/77 then that is a '77 with the front headlights and grill of a '76...

a perfect example of what needs to be done to a '77 or '78 to make it work?? I would guess?
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

map351

Quote from: Cookieboystoys on June 19, 2010, 12:00:56 PM
Mike, the wagon is a '76

and it LOOKS FANTASTIC!!!!!!

Thanks Brian! The built date is 6/77 it looks like all the front sheet metal is original?

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

Cookieboystoys

Quote from: map351 on June 19, 2010, 11:05:35 AM
Cleaned up and fit. A 77 without the Ugly front bumper!

Mike, the wagon is a '76

and it LOOKS FANTASTIC!!!!!!
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

map351

Cleaned up and fit. A 77 without the Ugly front bumper!

mike










73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

Bigtimmay

/DROOOL man those are sexy i cant wait to see the rear bumper delete!
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

map351

First one out of the mold.. I'll clean off the flash tomorrow and mount it on the 77 wagon.

Mike










73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

map351

Quote from: Original74 on June 15, 2010, 08:09:56 AM
Mike,

You are such a craftsman, I am blown away with what you are doing with fiberglass. It is obvious you know your stuff. Thank you also for your dedication to making parts for the Pinto. I hope this community rewards you with purchases enough to make this worth your while.

Where are you located? I know you are not in Cuba, LOL.

Dave

Thanks Dave!

I just hate them big A$$ UGLY BUMPERS and I'm on a mission to do something about it! At the same time have a nice looking front spoiler that will serve a few different applications, the turbo guys with a FMIC a nice large opening, the Rally Guys big driving light openings or brake cooling ducts and a little better Aero front clip.
I have a rear bumper delete on the way too.

I'm in Leechburg Pa, But with this gang in DC it's beginning to feel like Mainland Cuba!

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

Original74

Mike,

You are such a craftsman, I am blown away with what you are doing with fiberglass. It is obvious you know your stuff. Thank you also for your dedication to making parts for the Pinto. I hope this community rewards you with purchases enough to make this worth your while.

Where are you located? I know you are not in Cuba, LOL.

Dave
Dave Herbeck- Missing from us... He will always be with us

1974 Sedan, 'Geraldine', 45,000 miles, orange and white, show car.
1976 Runabout, project.
1979 Sedan, 'Jade', 429 miles, show car, really needs to be in a museum. I am building him one!
1979 Runabout, light blue, 39,000 miles, daily driver

map351

Mold repair..

No matter how hard you try to get all the air pockets out they still end up in the corners.

Mike










73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

map351

Brian is correct on the 79/80 I'm going to fit this new front cover on a 79/80 front clip to see what needs tweaked to make it work. On the 71/78 this new FBC should be a bolt on with a early style set of headlight doors as stated in a earlier post.

I tried to eliminate all the differences in the front clips so this cover will fit 71/78. All you need is the 2 holes that attach the outer grill/bumper filler center grill support and bottom fender support. The FBC was mounted on a wagon with a built date of 4/77, I have a 73 and the first FBC will be mounted on it soon.

Mike
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

Cookieboystoys

Hey Dave, Mike said earlier that...

Quote from: map351 on March 04, 2010, 07:21:46 PM
front bumper cover/spoiler will fit the early cars up to 77.

Mike

the front end/fenders on the '79/'80 are to different/shape, '77/'78 I think would be a hard fit because of the headlight buckets but if converted to '74 thru '76 headlights and grill it might work.

So If I'm correct (Mike, correct me if I'm wrong) this front bumper/spoiler conversion would be the "hot part" for a '74/'75'/76 and maybe useable on the early '71/'72/'73 but I would be concerned on the '71-'73 because the dimensions and mounting on the early cars is different for smaller bumpers. Mike should know for sure on the early '71-'73's as he does have one to compair/look at...

Mike/Map has the final word on fitment but that's what I have understood (thoughts/concerns on '71 -'73 are my own) from previous posts...
It's all about the Pintos! Baby!

dmsteen

map,will that fat a 79 wagon also?

apintonut

that will look so good on a 79-80 pinto
74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.