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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Pinto's @ auction: Ohio

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FlyerPinto

I'm sorry for not replying sooner myself. I grabbed the 77 Bobcat, which was really nice, it pretty much started right up. And that 79 Pinto was sweet. I think it went for $800 but I don't quite remember. I got the Bobcat for $400 and I got to meet Bobscat and his family, who were super nice to my wife and I. He helped me get the car cranked and they were even going to let me put the car at their place, after going to get their tow dolly, if I didn't want to risk driving it home. I hadn't taken a trailer with me, and they didn't announce that most of the cars could have brake issues until about 2/3 of them were sold. And there were pretty much no brakes on the Bobcat, the pedal went almost to the floor with only a little resistance. The one thing I hadn't taken up there was brake fluid, and that might not have been the problem anyway, it could have been a hole in a line so I decided not to risk it. When going back to my car I discovered a flatbed towtruck parked next to me that was going home empty, and home was only twenty minutes from my home so we made a deal and I got the car delivered on a flatbed. The guy scared the crap out of me though. He was flying in that thing, ran off the road once, and was cutting curves like I wouldn't dare in a truck that size. I was glad to get my car off his truck when we finally got home.

Another odd thing, the interior of the 79 Pinto and the 77 Bobcat both matched the interior of my other 77 Bobcat, this wild red, white, yellow, pink and black large plaid pattern. I'd never seen the fabric before, other than on my car. And there it was on two cars side by side at an auction, and I actually bought one of them. Luckily, I bought a bolt of the material so I'm in good shape there. I'm not sure, but I think one other person bid on the car, I bid second, and that was it. But truthfully, I'm not 100% sure. It was my first auction, I was trying to keep up with what was going on, and I think I tried to outbid myself once.

Bobscat, thanks for everything, it was great meeting you and your family. I'll be looking for you at the Ohio gathering. Are you gonna make it?
1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

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bobscat

Yeah, sorry, been outta the office this week, and am flying out tomorrow morning on vacation.  (to check on jobs and houses)   Flyerpinto picked up a Bobcat, and the 79 Pinto was in REAL nice shape.  REALLY wish I could have brought that home, but oh well.

douglasskemp

So, did anybody go and getum?
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

FlyerPinto

I'd gladly spend the money but I don't know enough about the engine itself to say if it was good, bad or a paperweight.
1977 Bobcat HB
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1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

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ADaughen

If the flathead looks useable and doesn't go for more than $250, can someone pick it up for me?  I'll pay you a service fee.
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bobscat

Well, as of so far, it doesn't look like I will be able to buy anything.   :mad:

But, I am really interested in the red hatch back, since it is the later model.  I am still trying to come up with some funding, we will see how that goes........... :mad:

I believe that my father is going also, as he may be interested in one of the Rangers, to use as a motorcycle transporter.  I had a friend offer me free storage for some cars, so if I can pull together some funding, I can stick them in his barn.

FlyerPinto

I'm most interested in the 77 Bobcat since I already have one. The glass hatchback Pinto doesn't look bad either. The auctioneer told me today the cars were in good shape, pretty much all of them ran, and they had clear Ohio titles on them. What are you there to look at as well?
1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

So many projects, so little time...

bobscat

hahahahaha, cool.   ;D

So far, I am planning on being there.  What are you most interested in, so I don't accidentally bid you up if we don't catch up before the auction starts?

FlyerPinto

Well, I talked to my wife (Sometimes I just have to make sure...) and she's ok with my going to the auction, which means I'm shopping!!! I'll be there by noon unless something dramatic happens between now and then. I'm easy to miss, I could play in the Average White Band but I'll be looking for you anyway.
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mustangnut

I live south rockwood  mi near todelo, have to work that weekend would love to pick up a pinto,, I will buy for the right price if any one picks one up,, thanks steve

bobscat

Cool, I'll keep that in mind.  As of right now, my cash flow is zilch on car stuff, but I was hoping to be able to swap out the trannys and resell the car, or just pull the tranny and part out the rest to recover the cash.  But, like I said, I will definitely keep you in mind, because if I end up being able to keep the 4cyl car, I am absolutely dropping in a manual.

ADaughen

Bobscat, if you don't get the 4spd for whatever reason, I have one I'm not using...

You'll still want the cable, pedal, etc from a donor car, though.
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bobscat

Quote from: FlyerPinto on June 18, 2008, 07:58:36 AM
I'll try to be there, I want to take a look at that Bobcat. My stepson is getting married Saturday so I don't fully know if I can get out of town or not. I'll be doing some checking in the meantime. Thanks for posting the info also.

No problem.  I just really hate to see one of the scrap guys get ahold of these and have them end up being made into barn siding or something.   :lol:

If you happen to go, keep an eye out for me, I am not too hard to miss........

FlyerPinto

I'll try to be there, I want to take a look at that Bobcat. My stepson is getting married Saturday so I don't fully know if I can get out of town or not. I'll be doing some checking in the meantime. Thanks for posting the info also.
1977 Bobcat HB
1977 Bobcat HB
1978 Pinto Cruising Wagon

So many projects, so little time...

bobscat

IF, and I mean a BIG IF, I can get someone to loan me some funds, (like my father or something, which would mean I would have to turn it around quickly) would anyone that can't make it to the auction be interested in any of these cars if they go cheap enough?  I would like to pick up one of them that has a four speed, and swap the auto from my car between the two, but that all depends on whether or not I am going to be able to keep the one I have.  That unfortunately is still up in the air.

BlueGoldPinto

I like the red Pinto---it has the same gold strips mine does. gotta love those strips!
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Srt

get her to build it so you can drive it :laugh:
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

ADaughen

Quote from: dholvrsn on June 13, 2008, 06:45:07 PM
Has any ornery sort ever shoehorned a flathead into a Pinto?

Besides that Model A aviation engine...


Flathead wouldn't be for my '78...

It'd be for a repro-Model A roadster for the wife...  She said if I built it she'd drive it.   :lol:
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pintoman

Yes,I saw a old hotrod mag that had an article in it where some one put a flat head in one. It looked sweet and with the hood down you could not tell it was in there.
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dholvrsn

Has any ornery sort ever shoehorned a flathead into a Pinto?

Besides that Model A aviation engine...
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ADaughen

I'll be out of state :(

I could use a Ford flathead though...  Anyone want to bid for me?   :D

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78squirewagon

Quote from: dholvrsn on June 11, 2008, 02:37:21 PM
Is "pintoauction2.jpg" a Pinto or a Bobcat?


It's a Bobcat. Iooked at the larger pictures from the link. I wish I could make it but I will be recovering from NASCAR weekend at the Milwaukee Mile. Lot of nice stuff there. If anyone is going, I need you to bid on the pedal tractors for me  ;D
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dholvrsn

Is "pintoauction2.jpg" a Pinto or a Bobcat?
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bobscat

another at the sale

ETA: I had thought it was in July, but after reading more closely it is in June.  I am going to be there.  Anyone else?

bobscat

Well, here is an update, I found pictures of the cars for sale, one is a Bobcat, and they all look to be in VERY good condition!!!  Also, from these pictures, it seems as though there are 4 Pintos, but no type II's.  I hope someone can save these cars.  I also checked out some of the Galxaies, and man, they are pretty nice, too!

bobscat

Very possible.  However, since there are more than one Pinto's listed, and I checked their website and it is the same, I am leaning toward mis-information on the "II" part itself.

dholvrsn

Mustang II mistaken or typo-ed as a Pinto?
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bobscat

Quote from: 77turbopinto on June 11, 2008, 10:20:55 AM
Pinto II??


Bill

I saw that also, and at first I dismissed it as someone not knowing what they were talking about, but than a crazy thought crept into my mind:  Perhaps a type II Pinto??

Man, I could only hope......

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Srt

the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!