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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

1975 bobcat 3.8L conversion

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75bobcatv6

some more. please comment let me know what you think. I have a long way to go with her but i love the car and am commited to getting it done and done right,

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a few more

75bobcatv6

Thought i would toss a few more pics of my baby, I have to hi-jack them off my own Myspace tho lol

75bobcatv6

update just thought id throw a pic up if the server will allow me too. just the new tires i got.

75bobcatv6

trashed t-birds are not easy to find out here. most of them have already been to the crusher. i actually found a Bobcat run-about at U-Pull it out here but it was sent to the crusher 2 days later, had a perfect body too.. =(

map351

Why don't you just buy a trashed SC T-Bird and use the drivetrain? There's a few 500+ HP blown 3.8 s...

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Hi, I AGREE! The best cars for their intended purpose which is why I decided to marry them. The Elans are giant killers! I love watching race prepped Elans twist the big block Corvettes in knots on a twisty track.

There is a reason so many Pintos are still running and WE know why-it's just the rest of the world that doesn't get it...yet! How many stock Vegas have you seen on the road after 37 years?
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

Srt

"... the Lotus/Pinto instead.."

Hey 71hanto I used to have '71 pinto and a 74 lotus elan sprint

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douglasskemp

Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on February 11, 2008, 05:38:38 PM
what i would like to do if find an automatic thas a 4 spd instead of a 3, to get a little more Economy outta the 2.8

Well, I'd say use a A4LD out of a 2wd Ranger or Bronco II, but IMHO to get it to stay in O/D without lugging the motor at anything slower than freeway speeds, you should go with at the least a 3.40:1 rear gearset.  I remember my uncle's 84 4x4 Ranger had a 2.8 with 3.73 gears and a five spd, and it ran pretty good.  My 87 Mustang has a 2.3 with 3.73s and an A4LD.  It'll get better than 35mpg if I stay outta the pedal.

BE AWARE that the A4LD is electronically controlled to a point...the earlier ones had little if any real control other than the lockup converter. LOTS OF INFO at the link below:
http://www.turbotbird.com/techinfo/AutoTransFix/A4LD_Fix.htm
--Doug
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

75bobcatv6

well as it stands now I just Ordered a long block, the 2.8 found out Checker could snag one for me, so im going to stick with that for now, will let ya know how it all goes as it goes and post pics asap, but what i would like to do if find an automatic thas a 4 spd instead of a 3, to get a little more Economy outta the 2.8, Ive made a custom Air intake for it so she will get a little more Cold air, gunna stay with the 2bbl but up the CFM to 400 or so so she breaths better and am putting a new exaust setup underneath, from the 2" to the 2"1/2 not alot but enough for it to breath better.  the mufflers im getting are flowmaster 60 series or 50 series. basically im dumping about 2300 into her all at once. =)

71HANTO

Hi, congrats on the new little one. You should be able to start sleeping better in about 18 years or so :hypno: I am interested in your 3.8 project as I road race a 97 3.8 mustang (since my cortina is now in a land fill and my pinto isn't ready yet). The 3.8 is a low winding high torque grunt motor. The 97 is rated at only 150HP. I run 3.45 rear gears to keep the R's down and take advantage of the broad torque curve. The early non-split port engines (including mine) are out classed by the 1999 up split-port version rated at 200HP. The early engines also suffer from head gasket failure problems if pushed (the different expantion rates of aluminum on cast iron). The 97 is better and the 98 was best of the early ones. I have a complete 3.8 split-port setup out of a 2004 mustang with less than 10K miles on it. I bought it thinking I would drop it into my 97 but I'm going with the Lotus/Pinto instead. I have the soup to nuts from and including the radiator, engine (pan to intake-complete to the remote air intake from the fender), air compressor, alternator, power steering pump, complete ignition forward wiring, bell, flywheel, clutch/pressure plate, the original T-5 trans, and even the drive shaft. I have $1300 in it if you or anyone else is interested. Local pickup only in Los Angeles or motor freight arranged by the buyer.
"Life is a series of close ones...'til the last one"...cfpjr

75bobcatv6

ive seen the after market for a 3.8, thats one of the reasons i wanted to do it, and after alot of number crunching and possibilities of a naturally aspirated motor you can get about 250+ with the right parts. im not lokin to go Overboard with it, but if i have to cut into my car to fit that motor i wont do it. i will find an 80's 2.9 and go that way.
thanks for the Grats on the little one, and we will see if he becomes a fan of the pinto and bobcats like i did as a kid =D

69GT

There are so many after market things available for the 3.8 too. And they come with aluminum heads! OK crappy flowing aluminum heads but some porting and they will be better than average. I really would love to put an N.A. carbed 3.8 in my 72. With a roller cam porting higher compression and exhaust I don't see why 200+ HP would not  possible.

FCANON

 :happy_bday: thats great,,, I hope its a little Bobcat/Pinto Fan...

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75bobcatv6

ok for the time being I have to put doing anything on hold with the bobcat, my g/f and I just had a baby friday, so he comes first. then i will take some time to get more done on the car

75bobcatv6

I appriciate the advice, im no expert either i just know what i would like to do, i know its possible to swap a 289 or 302 into a bobcat/pinto with not too much issue, but the frame strength is where i would have a problem, as well as mpg.. its hard enough to fill an 18 gallon gas tank lol.

douglasskemp

Personally, I am quite interested in seeing your project and the plans you have.  You may run into a couple problems.  the 3.8 'Essex' V6 and the 2.8 'Cologne' V6 share little if any (I would bet on none) parts interchange.  The 2.8 is a 60 degree motor and the 3.8 is a 90 degree.  While you will not have the issue of length like a v8 conversion, you will most likely run into problems where the exhaust manifolds visit the general locale of the steering shaft on the driver side and the battery tray/frame rail on the passenger side.

For motor mounts, your best bet may be to find a set out of a 'fox' Mustang (including the frame 'ears' or 'towers') and modify them to fit the Bobcat frame.  This is when a MIG comes in handy!  The distance between the framerails of a Bobcat and a fox Mustang are considerably different due to the change in front suspension layout (MacPherson strut vs. unequal length A-arms.)  Another thing to keep an eye on is the oil pan.  Pintos/Bobcats have large crossmembers directly below the engine.  Although notching can and has been done before, significant strengthening will need to be performed to retain the structural rigidity of the front half of the car.

As far as performance out of the 3.8, see if you can scrounge parts from a later model with EFI.  There are aftermarket kits available for S/C'ing these motors.  I am NOT an expert when it comes to these engines, so differences may be there that negate the possibility of just a bolt on swap to acquire the EFI setup.

I wish you luck with your project, and keep us updated!

--Doug
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

75bobcatv6

Ok, since it has been so difficult to find genuine 2.8 parts/accessories im going to drop in a 3.8 out of an 83 mustang, I have many questions since this is my first real american car project.
Most of what I have done is Swap motors and what not on imports. I need some Advice and help here. I have the Motor and trans on hold for me at the moment but what i need to know is where to get  or what motor mounts will fit a 75 bobcat. its the villager with a port hole panel conversion. I want to go from the base 112hp at the wheels to something a little more substantial, but not too much to over power the frame or the rearend. the parts list so far is pretty good, but i still am looking to find a cam that will work with that year motor, and a shift kit for the trans. I would like to get atleast 200bhp from it maybe 245 if i can find a proper supercharger/turbo kit for it. Ive had a hell of a time finding rebuild kits and have asked for help before but I haven't gotten much in replies. Is there anyone that might be able to help with this? Just need help finding parts, exhaust is taken care of i just need engine/trans parts performance would be preferred, I really don't want to drop a V8 into the car, i like having a v6. Would appreciate the help from any of you. thanks